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Old 08-25-2008, 03:17 PM   #1
John21
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Hello all,
My wife has bone mets to the spine around S1 and other places. Despite being stable elsewhere for being stage IV, ( scans just received - good) this one has finally become a disabilitating issue. She has symptoms of sciatia with severe numbness and pain in her left leg. She is going through the injections and therapy, but is not working. The CT scan does not show much, but they seemed to think it is the disease pushing on the nerve. We have tried radiation, but we think they missed it. Has anyone experienced this and what relief have you found? We are finally getting to see a Neuro guy on Wednesday.

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Old 08-25-2008, 03:48 PM   #2
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I don't have anything to offer in the way of advice but I just had to respond and say God bless you for being such a good and loving husband. You guys mean more than we can ever express.

I am glad you are seeing the neurologist soon. Keep the faith.
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Bilateral mastectomy, (NED on left) May 2007
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Stage 1, DCIS with microinvasion, 3 mm, mostly removed during the biopsy....
Femara (discontinued 7/07) Resumed 10/07
OncoType score 36 (July 07)
Began THC 7/26/07 (d/c taxol and carboplatin 10/07)
Began Herceptin alone 10/07
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Old 08-25-2008, 06:45 PM   #3
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Hi John,

Sorry to hear that your wife is having problems with what seems to be a very small spot in a tough place.

Perhaps you should revisit with the radiation oncologist. Also, radiation interventionalists can use radiofrequency ablation either to stop or diminish bone pain from cancer.

Here's some information: http://www.mayoclinic.org/radiofrequency-ablation/
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Diagnosed stage 2b in July 2003 (2.3 cm, HER2+, ER-/PR-, 7+ nodes). Treated with mastectomy (with immediate DIEP flap reconstruction), AC + T/Herceptin (off label). Cancer advanced to lung in Jan. 2007 (1 cm nodule). Started Herceptin every 3 weeks. Lung wedge resection April 2007. Cancer recurred in lung April 2008. RFA of lung in August 2008. 2nd annual brain MRI in Oct. 2008 discovered 2.6 cm cystic tumor in left frontal lobe. Craniotomy Oct. 2008 (ER-/PR-/HER2-) followed by targeted radiation (IMRT). Coughing up blood Feb. 2009. Thoractomy July 2009 to cut out fungal ball of common soil fungus (aspergillus) that grew in the RFA cavity (most likely inhaled while gardening). No cancer, only fungus. Removal of tiny melanoma from upper left arm, plus sentinel lymph node biopsy in Feb. 2016. Guardant Health liquid biopsy in Feb. 2016 showed mutations in 4 subtypes of TP53. Repeat of Guardant Health biopsy in Jana. 2021 showed 3 TP53 mutations, BRCA1 mutation and CHEK2 mutation. Invitae genetic testing showed negative for all of these. Living with MBC since 2007. Stopped Herceptin Hylecta (injection) treatment in March 2020. Recent 2021 annual CT of chest, abdomen and pelvis and annual brain MRI showed NED. Praying for NED forever!!
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Old 08-26-2008, 09:15 AM   #4
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Hi John-
Don't know much about your wife's specific issue but I can say that about a year ago I had a neck situation with nerve pain. Pain just shuts down your life and nerve pain is the mother of them all. Until the pain is resolved there is no room for anything at all. It was a horrendous time and I finally (thankfully) got relief with an epidural to my neck. I feel for your wife (and you) - she must be suffering terribly.

There is a drug called Neurontin that many women in my mets group use to get relief from nerve pain. Also many of them use a pain patch and see a pain management doctor to get pain under control and get relief. Many use a combo of pain meds including pot to manage their pain. When you are in high levels of pain it seems that meds that would normally make you delirious really don't. The meds seem to do a decent job of blocking the pain. And hopefully during that time the docs will find a more permanent solution.

Hope this helps.
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1996 cancer WTF?! 1.3 cm lumpectomy Er/Pr neg. Her2+ (20nodes NEGATIVE) did CMF + rads. NED.
2002 recurrence. Bilateral mastectomy w/TFL autologous recon. Then ACx2. Skin lymphatic rash. Taxotere w/Herceptin x4. Herceptin/Xeloda. Finally stops spreading.
2003 - Back to surgery, remove skin mets, and will have surgery one week later when pathology can confirm margins.
‘03 latisimus dorsi flap to remove skin mets. CLEAN MARGINS. Continue single agent Herceptin thru 4/04. NED.
‘04 '05 & 06 tiny recurrences - scar line. surgery to cut out. NED each time.
1/2006 Rads again, to scar line. NED.

3/07 Heartbreaking news - mets! lungs.sternum. Try Tykerb/Xeloda. Tykerb/Carbo/Gemzar. Switch Oncs.
12/07 Herceptin.Tykerb. Markers go stable.
2/8/08 gamma knife 13mm stupid brain met.
3/08 Herceptin/tykerb/avastin/zometa.
3/09 brain NED. Lungs STABLE.
4/09 attack sternum (10 daysPHOTONS.5 days ELECTRONS)
9/09 MARKERS normal!
3/10 PET/CT=manubrium intensely metabolically active but stable. NEDhead.
Wash out 5/10 for tdm1 but 6/10 CT STABLE, PET improving. Markers normal. Brain NED. Resume just Herceptin plus ZOMETA
Dec 2010 Brain NED, lungs/sternum stable. markers normal.
MAR 2011 stop Herceptin/allergy! Go back on Tykerb and switch to Xgeva.
May-Aug 2011 Tykerb Herceptin Xgeva.
Sept 2011 Tykerb, Herceptin, Zometa, Avastin.
April 2012 sketchy drug trial in NYC. 6 weeks later I’m NED!
OCT 2012 PET/CT shows a bunch of freakin’ progression. Back to LA and Herceptin.avastin.zometa.
12/20/12 add in PERJETA!
March 2013 – 5 YEARS POST continue HAPZ
APRIL 2013 - 6 yrs stage 4. "FAILED" PETscan on 4/2/13
May 2013: rePetted - improvement in lungs, left adrenal stable, right 6th rib inactive, (must be PERJETA avastin) sternum and L1 fruckin'worsen. Drop zometa. ADD Xgeva. Doc says get rads consultant for L1 and possible biopsy of L1. I say, no thanks, doc. Lets see what xgeva brings to the table first. It's summer.
June-August 2013HAPX Herceptin Avastin Perjeta xgeva.
Sept - now - on chemo hold for calming tummy we hope. Markers stable for 2 months.
Nov 2013 - Herceptin-Perjeta-Avastin-Xgeva (collageneous colitis, which explains tummy probs, added Entocort)
December '13 BRAIN MRI ned in da head.
Jan 2014: CONTINUING on HAPX…
FEB 2014 PetCT clinical “impression”: 1. newbie nodule - SUV 1.5 right apical nodule, mildly hypermetabolic “suggestive” of worsening neoplastic lesion. 2. moderate worsening of the sternum – SUV 5.6 from 3.8
3. increasing sclerosis & decreasing activity of L1 met “suggests” mild healing. (SUV 9.4 v 12.1 in May ‘13)
4. scattered lung nodules, up to 5mm in size = stable, no increased activity
5. other small scattered sclerotic lesions, one in right iliac and one in thoracic vertebral body similar in appearance to L1 without PET activity and not clearly pathologic
APRIL 2014 - 6 YRS POST GAMMA ZAP, 7 YRS MBC & 18 YEARS FROM ORIGINAL DX!
October 2014: hold avastin, continue HPX
Feb 2015 Cancer you lost. NEDHEAD 7 years post gamma zap miracle, 8 years ST4, +19 yrs original diagnosis.
Continue HPX. Adding back Avastin
Nov 2015 pet/ct is mixed result. L1 SUV is worse. Continue Herceptin/avastin/xgeva. Might revisit Perjeta for L1. Meantime going for rads consult for L1
December 2015 - brain stable. Continue Herceptin, Perjeta, Avastin and xgeva.
Jan 2016: 5 days, 20 grays, Rads to L1 and continue on HAPX. I’m trying to "save" TDM1 for next line. Hope the rads work to quiet L1. Sciatic pain extraordinaire :((
Markers drop post rads.
2/24/16 HAP plus X - markers are down
SCIATIC PAIN DEAL BREAKER.
3/23/16 Laminectomy w/coflex implant L4/5. NO MORE SCIATIC PAIN!!! Healing.
APRIL 2016 - 9 YRS MBC
July 2016 - continue HAP plus Xgeva.
DEC 2016 - PETCT: mets to sternum, lungs, L1 still about the same in size and PET activity. Markers not bad. Not making changes if I don't need to. Herceptin/Perjeta/Avastin/Xgeva
APRIL 2017 10 YEARS MBC
December 2017 - Progression - gonna switch it up
FEB 2018 - Kadcyla 3 cycles ---->progression :(
MAY30th - bronchoscopy, w/foundation1 - her2 enriched
Aug 27, 2018 - start clinical trial ZW25
JAN 2019 - ZW25 seems to be keeping me stable
APRIL 2019 - ONE DOZEN YEARS LIVING METASTATIC
MAY 2019 - progression back on herceptin add xeloda
JUNE 2019 - "6 mos average survival" LMD & CNS new single brain met - one zap during 5 days true beam SBRT to cord met
10/30/19 - stable brain and cord. progression lungs and bones. washing out. applying for ds8201a w nivolumab. hope they take me.
12/27/19 - begin ds8401a w nivolumab. after 2nd cycle nodes melt away. after 3rd cycle chest scan shows Improvement, brain MRI shows improvement, resolved areas & nothing new. switch to plain ENHERTU. after 4th cycle, PETscan shows mostly resolved or improved results. Markers near normal. I'm stunned but grateful.
10/26/20 - June 2021 Tucatinib/xeloda/herceptin - stable ish.
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Old 08-26-2008, 10:09 AM   #5
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I was diagnosed in Dec. 2004 with Stage 3 breast cancer, had left side mascectomy and lymph node removal - 23 of 29 effected, did a/c & Taxol and radiation. Tried tamoxifen - didn't work. Did Herceptin. Was put back on Taxol when spots showed up in the liver in Nov 2006. I have been battling with bone pain for almost a year now. I first ended up in the hospital in November when the pain was so bad in my legs that I could walk. I had a tumor in the low spine that was effecting the sciatica. They did radiation and started me on Tykerb/Xeloda and I was up and around by Christmas. I then had another recurrance on New Years eve when I had spots show up on my sternum and directly behind that in the back. They did radiation on this area as well. This time I was in the hospital for 1 1/2 months. My insurance company decided to have home health care come in to do pain management for me. Everything was going great and I was hoping to go back to work when all of sudden in July my neck and shoulder area. One morning I couldn't move my arm and it got worse and worse. My husband called and ambulance and well now I had mets to be neck. Again radiation. They stopped my Tykerb/Xeloda until we get new scans. I am home again now with the home health - they are great. I have a PET scan tomorrow to see how everything looks. Hopefully things are shrinking and I can get back on the Tykerb/Xeloda or something else. My main stress right now is that my short term disability is up in November and I need to figure out what to do next. I am hoping they will be willing to extend it for 6 months because my plan is to be better and get back to work soon. I am sorry for rambling, but you are all so sweet to listen and give advice back.

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