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05-29-2008, 06:47 PM
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hey guys
I was curious what premeds are given with hercepin dm-1. I figured I'd go to you experts first as you all often know more than what I can find on the old interweb.
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joy
dx stage I 2/2000*er/pr+; her- per IHC*lumpectomy*4 rounds A/C*30 rads*tamoxifen*dx stage 4 5/2002*huge mets to liver*tiny mets to lungs*stopped tamoxifen*5/02 taxotere/xeloda*her 2 checked with FiSH-her2+++herceptin *2/03 stopped chemo femara w/herceptin*zolodex*04 switched to aromasin w/herceptin*05 high estrogen tx*11/05taxol/carbo*7/06 stopped chemo; megace/herceptin*9/06navelbine/herceptin*5/07tykerb/xeloda great response*4/08 progression in liver; ooph/ faslodex /herceptin
6/08 began Herceptin DM-1
9/08 progression
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05-29-2008, 09:38 PM
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Hi Joy - I usually get a little IV Benadryl and maybe something for nausea. I usually got it for the first and second infusion. I never had a problem with Herceptin. I don't know what you'll get on the trial, but I hope it is as easy as can be for you!!!!!!
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Maryann
Stage IV Inflammatory BC 1/00
Mod Rad Mastectomy 24nod/5+
Adriomycin Cytoxin Taxol
Tamoxifen 4 1/2 yrs
Radiation - 32 x
Metastatic BC lung/liver 10/04
thorocentesis 2x - pleurodesis
Herceptin Taxatiere Carbo
Femera/Lupron
BC NED 4/05
chemo induced Acute Myeloid Leukemia 5/06
Induction/consolidation chemo
bone marrow transplant - 11/3/06
Severe Host vs Graft Disease of liver
BC mets to lung 11/07
Fasoladex Herceptin Zometa Xeloda
GVHD/Iron overload to liver
Avascular Necrosis/morphine pump 10/10
metastatic brain tumor
steriotactic radiosurgery
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05-30-2008, 11:44 AM
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hey guys
Hi,
I haven't had any premeds with Herceptin, Navelbine and Femara, but I did have premeds with Adrianmycin and Taxotere. I eat ceral bars and yoghurt during my Herceptin and Navelbine treatment. Maybe that helps.
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05-30-2008, 12:45 PM
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I didn't get premeds for Herceptin, but before I started treatment I insisted on my allergist testing me for allergy to mouse protein. It came back negative. Maybe that's why I didn't get premeds.
I had premeds with Adriamycin and Taxol. I think there should be premeds for all these drugs. Taxol is from the Ewe tree and it's mixed with a solution derived from castor beans. If you have an allergy to any of these, you could have a reaction.
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IDC, Stage I, Grade 2
Oncotype DX Score 32
Her2++ E+P+, Node Neg.
Lumpectomy 11/04/05 Clear Margins
3 Dose dense AC (Couldn't tolerate 4)
4 Dose dense Taxol & Herc. (Tolerated well)
36 weeks Herceptin (Could not complete one year due to decrease in MUGA score)
2 years of Arimidex, then three years of Femara
Finished Femara May 2011
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05-30-2008, 01:18 PM
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I had a benadryl drip for about thirty minutes before each herceptin treatment.
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Debbie in North Carolina
Diag 10/2006-high grade invasive ductal carcinoma- mastectomy L breast
2.5 cm tumor ER/PR pos-Her2+++
4 rounds A/C, 4 rounds Taxol
Herceptin every 3 weeks until Jan. 2008
6/18/07 prophylatic mastectomy R breast
8/2007 started aromasin/stopped arimidex (side effects)
12/07 stopped aromasin due to side effects (now what?)
Finished herceptin 1/8/08
started tamoxifen for 2 years then will switch to femera
allergic to tamoxifen started femera 4/2008
June 20, 2008 portacath removed
Learnig to live life to the fullest!
Stopped Femera due to side effects
July 28, 2008 start trial for breast cancer vaccine
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05-30-2008, 04:10 PM
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Joy
I am hoping Chrisy will see this...I think this is the trial she is on!
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Diagnosed at age 49.99999 2/21/2002 via Mammography (Calcifications)
Core Biopsy 2/22/02
L. Mastectomy 2/25/2002
Stage 1, 0.7cm IDC, Node Neg from 19 nodes Her2+++ ER PR Neg
6/2003 Reconstruction W/ Tissue Expander, Silicone Implant
9/2003 Stage IV with Mets to Supraclavicular nodes
9/2003 Began Herceptin every 3 weeks
3/2006 Xeloda 2500mg/Herceptin for recurrence to neck nodes
3/2007 Added back the Xeloda with Herceptin for continued mets to nodes
5/2007 Taken Off Xeloda, no longer working
6/14/07 Taxol/Herceptin/Avastin
3/26 - 5/28/08 Taxol Holiday Whopeeeeeeeee
5/29 2008 Back on Taxol w Herceptin q 2 weeks
4/2009 Progression on Taxol & Paralyzed L Vocal Cord from Nodes Pressing on Nerve
5/2009 Begin Rx with Navelbine/Herceptin
11/09 Progression on Navelbine
Fought for and started Tykerb/Herceptin...nodes are melting!!!!!
2/2010 Back to Avastin/Herceptin
5/2010 Switched to Metronomic Chemo with Herceptin...Cytoxan and Methotrexate
Pericardial Window Surgery to Drain Pericardial Effusion
7/2010 Back to walking a mile a day...YEAH!!!!
9/2010 Nodes are back with a vengence in neck
Qualified for TDM-1 EAP
10/6/10 Begin my miracle drug, TDM-1
Mixed response, shrinking internal nodes, progression skin mets after 3 treatments
12/6/10 Started Halaven (Eribulen) /Herceptin excellent results in 2 treatments
2/2011 I CELEBRATE my 9 YEAR MARK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
7/5/11 begin Gemzar /Herceptin for node progression
2/8/2012 Gemzar stopped, Continue Herceptin
2/20/2012 Begin Tomo Radiation to Neck Nodes
2/21/2012 I CELEBRATE 10 YEARS
5/12/2012 BeganTaxotere/ Herceptin is my next miracle for new node progression
6/28/12 Stopped Taxotere due to pregression, Started Perjeta/Herceptin
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05-30-2008, 04:31 PM
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Trialz
Hi Joy,
I am on the Herceptin MCC DM1 trial. I have never had any premeds for it and I don't need them. This is a very easy drug to take. It does its job (for me since September) and you barely know you are in treatment. I did have flu type symptoms with the first treatment, but I still went back to school that evening and conducted my back to school night. I didn't get home until after 9:00. After the first treatment, you have a good chance of no longer experiencing symptoms.
Best wishes,
Barbara H.
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05-30-2008, 08:01 PM
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Nada on the premeds
I've never had any premeds, although I had a nurse in the infusion center try to give me benadryl. I refused - "NO BENNIES!"
Sometimes I did feel a little flulike later in the day, and the doctor told me to take an ibuprofen. Make sure you stay away from tylenol or any of the others that affect liver functions. Duh, I'm sure you already know that!
Note, Joy, I'm talking about Herceptin DM1 here, except for Barbara, I think some of the other responses were for "regular" Herceptin.
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June 2002 extensive hi grade DCIS (pre-cancer-stage 0, clean sentinal node) Mastectomy/implant - no chemo, rads. "cured?"
9/2004 Diag: Stage IV extensive liver mets (!) ER/PR- Her2+++
10/04-3/05 Weekly Taxol/Carboplatin/Herceptin , complete response!
04/05 - 4/07 Herception every 3 wks, Continue NED
04/07 - recurrence to liver - 2 spots, starting tykerb/avastin trial
06/07 8/07 10/07 Scans show stable, continue on Tykerb/Avastin
01/08 Progression in liver
02/08 Begin (TDM1) trial
08/08 NED! It's Working! Continue on TDM1
02/09 Continue NED
02/10 Continue NED. 5/10 9/10 Scans NED 10/10 Scans NED
12/10 Scans not clear....4/11 Scans suggest progression 6/11 progression confirmed in liver
07/11 - 11/11 Herceptin/Xeloda -not working:(
12/11 Begin MM302 Phase I trial - bust:(
03/12 3rd times the charm? AKT trial
5/12 Scan shows reduction! 7/12 More reduction!!!!
8/12 Whoops...progression...trying for Perjeta/Herceptin (plus some more nasty chemo!)
9/12 Start Perjeta/Herceptin, chemo on hold due to infection/wound in leg, added on cycle 2 &3
11/12 Poops! progression in liver, Stop Perjeta/Taxo/Herc
11/12 Navelbine/Herce[ptin - try for a 3 cycles, no go.
2/13 Gemzar/Carbo/Herceptin - no go.
3/13 TACE procedure
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05-31-2008, 12:09 PM
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Location: Ft. Collins, Colorado
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I appreciate
all of the responses and when I was on plain old herceptin I refused the benadryl. I am glad to hear that on the new herceptin there are not pre-meds. And I thank you all for your responses. I have always stayed away from Tylenol as it never worked for me and it is so hard on the liver so no worries there. Man, I hope this works. Oddly enough I asked the trial coordinator if she had seen the liver enzyme problems and she said no, but I know she can't discuss too much. She said she has one gal on it who doesn't even feel tired. So I'm hoping the best obviously-for all of us. And Barbara, I think of you all the time as you are the trial hero (I am a former teacher so I know what you have to do all day).
Thanks so much everyone!
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with love and gratitude,
joy
dx stage I 2/2000*er/pr+; her- per IHC*lumpectomy*4 rounds A/C*30 rads*tamoxifen*dx stage 4 5/2002*huge mets to liver*tiny mets to lungs*stopped tamoxifen*5/02 taxotere/xeloda*her 2 checked with FiSH-her2+++herceptin *2/03 stopped chemo femara w/herceptin*zolodex*04 switched to aromasin w/herceptin*05 high estrogen tx*11/05taxol/carbo*7/06 stopped chemo; megace/herceptin*9/06navelbine/herceptin*5/07tykerb/xeloda great response*4/08 progression in liver; ooph/ faslodex /herceptin
6/08 began Herceptin DM-1
9/08 progression
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05-31-2008, 04:16 PM
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hey guys
Hi,
That is so interesting about the allergy testing before Herceptin and chemo.
Who knew? Maybe all oncologists should do that.
I found out I have a slight allergy to egg whites, so I can't take flu shots.
Good thing I have only had the flu twice in my life.
ElaineM
[url]http://langetc.tripod.com/health11.html
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06-04-2008, 06:07 AM
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joy et all.. conclusions from genentech about tras-dm1 weekly dosed trial
T-DM1 administered on a weekly schedule to patients with HER2-positive metastatic breast
cancer has demonstrated activity and safety results consistent with those observed on an
every-3-week schedule, further supporting the rationale for further studies with this agent.
The MTD of weekly T-DM1 administered intravenously is 2.4 mg/kg. -
At steady state, exposure to T-DM1 is expected to be ~2-fold higher for the weekly regimen -
than for the every-3-week regimen.
The only dose-limiting toxicity observed at 2.9 mg/kg was toxicity preventing retreatment on -
Cycle 1, Day 8.
The most common AEs reported on this schedule were fatigue, thrombocytopenia, nausea, -
transaminase elevation, and headache.
No Grade 4 AEs or cardiac-specific toxicity have been observed. -
Confirmed response rate in response-evaluable patients was 53%. -
Treatment is ongoing for 11 of the 19 patients enrolled. -
A Phase II study of T-DM1 3.6 mg/kg every 3 weeks in patients with HER2-positive metastatic
breast cancer who have progressed on HER2-directed therapy has been initiated; preliminary
results are expected later this year. N/A
PD
N/A Dose 1.2 mg/kg
1.6 mg/kg
2.0 mg/kg
2.4 mg/kg
2.9 mg/kg
data as of 2-29-2008
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06-04-2008, 06:09 AM
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results of trastuzumab-dm1 every 3 weeks dosing
T-DM1 administered every 3 weeks has demonstrated significant activity in a trastuzumab-
pretreated population of patients with HER2-positive metastatic breast cancer at doses
associated with an acceptable safety profile.
The MTD of T-DM1 administered to patients intravenously every 3 weeks is 3.6 mg/kg. -
Dose-limiting toxicity was observed at 4.8 mg/kg (rapidly reversible, asymptomatic Grade 4 -
thrombocytopenia)
No other Grade 4 AEs and no cardiac-specific toxicity have been observed. -
The most common AEs reported on this schedule were Grade 1 or 2 thrombocytopenia, -
fatigue, nausea, transaminase elevation, anemia, headache, and constipation.
Median PFS in patients treated at the MTD (n=15) was 9.8 months; the clinical benefit -
rate in this group was 53%.
The confirmed response rate in patients at the MTD with
measurable disease treated (n=9) was 44%.
Treatment is ongoing for 6 of the 24 patients enrolled. -
A Phase II study of T-DM1 3.6 mg/kg every 3 weeks in patients with HER2-positive metastatic
breast cancer who have progressed on HER2-directed therapy has been initiated; preliminary
results are expected later this year.
Data as of Feb 29,2008
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06-04-2008, 10:41 AM
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thank you
Runtolive, That was just what I needed and I'm so grateful for your thoughtfulness and effort to post this. I do feel better about this and that counts for a lot.
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with love and gratitude,
joy
dx stage I 2/2000*er/pr+; her- per IHC*lumpectomy*4 rounds A/C*30 rads*tamoxifen*dx stage 4 5/2002*huge mets to liver*tiny mets to lungs*stopped tamoxifen*5/02 taxotere/xeloda*her 2 checked with FiSH-her2+++herceptin *2/03 stopped chemo femara w/herceptin*zolodex*04 switched to aromasin w/herceptin*05 high estrogen tx*11/05taxol/carbo*7/06 stopped chemo; megace/herceptin*9/06navelbine/herceptin*5/07tykerb/xeloda great response*4/08 progression in liver; ooph/ faslodex /herceptin
6/08 began Herceptin DM-1
9/08 progression
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06-05-2008, 08:24 AM
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your welcome joy... i hope everyone here can benefit...
when does your trial start...
also new trial for tras-dm1 going against herceptin/taxotere for mbc
A Study of the Efficacy and Safety of Trastuzumab-Mcc-DM1 vs. Trastuzumab (Herceptin®) and Docetaxel (Taxotere®) in Patients With Metastatic HER2-Positive Breast Cancer Who Have Not Received Prior Chemotherapy for Metastatic Disease
http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/sh...=6&show_locs=Y
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06-19-2008, 07:44 AM
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joy.. how was first dose.. hope all is well..
run
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