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Old 03-11-2008, 04:20 PM   #1
Faith in Him
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Unhappy 2nd Opinion @ UCSF

So yesterday I met with Dr. Christopher Benz. Very nice facility and people. He felt that I needed to have the mastectomy scheduled as soon as possible and followed by a few more rounds of chemo. Rash is gone.

Anyhoo, the thing that is bothering me again is the her 2 status. At dx, I was strongly her2+. When the cancer came back it came back as er/pr/her2-. This is very upsetting to me. I asked the dr about this and he said that both tests were done the second time to determine her 2 status. I believe only one test was done the first time. My local dr believes that I am still her2+. Dr. Benz can not say for sure although he feels it is good to stay on herceptin for now. When they do the mastectomy and test the breast tissue, then we may have more answers.

So my quesstion is: Now is my prognosis worse because of less treatment options? Is triple negative more aggressive than her2+?
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2.5 cm, Er/Pr-, Her2+++
18/20 Nodes
03/07 CT & Bone scan - Clear
AC x 4, Taxol x 4, Added Herceptin
Radiation until 09/07
Herceptin every 3 weeks until 06/08
01/10/08 local recurrence -IBC
01/28/08 CT & Brain MRI - clear
02/08 - Navelbine & Herceptin
05/08 -MRM
05/08 - Gemzar & Herceptin - didn't work
09/08 - Hyperthermia rads
03/09 - Tykerb/Xeloda
05/10 - Tram flap to fix wound
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Old 03-11-2008, 05:21 PM   #2
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Whew! What a deal! But I have a good BC friend that is triple negitive and she is doing really well on her treatment meds. I'm not real familiar with the meds she is on, they are different from mine, but they are working! To me the most important thing is to get that path report and some real answers. You're one strong, smart lady and will wrap your mind around whatever is needed to get the best of those BC cells and get them gone! Not knowing is tough, but you're tougher! I have to tell myself..."I'll know when I know...til then I'll trust and believe". I'm praying for ya, girl! Bunches of love, ma
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Diag. 12/05 at age 60
Stage II, Grade 3, 4.5 cm primary tumor
ER/PR- Her2 +3 strongly positive
Her2 by FISH 7.7 amplified
vascular invasion
Ki67 20% borderline
Jan - March '06 Taxotere/Adriamycin X 3 to try to shrink tumor - it grew
April '06 Rt Modified Radical Mas, 7 of 9 nodes positive
April - Aug. '06 Herceptin/Taxol/Carboplatin X 8 (dose dense)
Sept - Dec. '06 Navelbine/Herceptin x 8 (dose dense)
Radiation & Herceptin Jan. 22 - March 1, 2007
Finished Herceptin Dec. 10 '08! One extra year.
Port removed August, 2012.
8 1/2 years since diagnosis! 5 1/2 Years NED!
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Old 03-12-2008, 04:31 AM   #3
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I do know that Her2 Status can change, but the possibility that the error can lie in the lab doing the testing....did they do IHC or FISH Testing on your tumor? Just bumping this up so you can get more feedback from others. Maybe a 3rd opinion or retesting is in order to confirm all the specifics. Sending lots of prayers to you.
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Diagnosed at age 49.99999 2/21/2002 via Mammography (Calcifications)
Core Biopsy 2/22/02
L. Mastectomy 2/25/2002
Stage 1, 0.7cm IDC, Node Neg from 19 nodes Her2+++ ER PR Neg
6/2003 Reconstruction W/ Tissue Expander, Silicone Implant
9/2003 Stage IV with Mets to Supraclavicular nodes
9/2003 Began Herceptin every 3 weeks
3/2006 Xeloda 2500mg/Herceptin for recurrence to neck nodes
3/2007 Added back the Xeloda with Herceptin for continued mets to nodes
5/2007 Taken Off Xeloda, no longer working
6/14/07 Taxol/Herceptin/Avastin
3/26 - 5/28/08 Taxol Holiday Whopeeeeeeeee
5/29 2008 Back on Taxol w Herceptin q 2 weeks
4/2009 Progression on Taxol & Paralyzed L Vocal Cord from Nodes Pressing on Nerve
5/2009 Begin Rx with Navelbine/Herceptin
11/09 Progression on Navelbine
Fought for and started Tykerb/Herceptin...nodes are melting!!!!!
2/2010 Back to Avastin/Herceptin
5/2010 Switched to Metronomic Chemo with Herceptin...Cytoxan and Methotrexate
Pericardial Window Surgery to Drain Pericardial Effusion
7/2010 Back to walking a mile a day...YEAH!!!!
9/2010 Nodes are back with a vengence in neck
Qualified for TDM-1 EAP
10/6/10 Begin my miracle drug, TDM-1
Mixed response, shrinking internal nodes, progression skin mets after 3 treatments
12/6/10 Started Halaven (Eribulen) /Herceptin excellent results in 2 treatments
2/2011 I CELEBRATE my 9 YEAR MARK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
7/5/11 begin Gemzar /Herceptin for node progression
2/8/2012 Gemzar stopped, Continue Herceptin
2/20/2012 Begin Tomo Radiation to Neck Nodes
2/21/2012 I CELEBRATE 10 YEARS
5/12/2012 BeganTaxotere/ Herceptin is my next miracle for new node progression
6/28/12 Stopped Taxotere due to pregression, Started Perjeta/Herceptin
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Old 03-12-2008, 11:33 AM   #4
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Dear Faith in Him,
Brenda is correct...her 2 status can change over to neg.
I strongly suggest another test and the FISH is the most desirable
for accurate results. It is more exspensive, but well worth it.

Try to relax a bit now and prepare your body for surgery. You have already come a such a long way and doing everything you can to battle this monster. Your surgery will bring some clear answers. In the meantime be kind yourself and take a deep breath now...I know it is easier said then done. You will heal faster and be stronger as you prepare your
mind and body for this journey.

My prayers and good wishes are with you.
Kind Regards,
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Lumpectomy 4/15/05 - 6MM IDC
Node Neg. (Sentinel node)
ER+ 90% / PR-, Her2+++ by FISH
Ki-67 40%
Arimidex 5/05
Radiation 32 trt, 5/30/05
Oncotype DX test 4/17/06, 31% high risk
TOPO 11 neg. 4/06
Stopped Arimidex 5/06
TCH 5/06, 6 treatments
Herceptin 5/06 - for 1 yr.
9/06 Completed chemo
Started Femara Sept. 2006
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Old 03-12-2008, 11:53 AM   #5
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Just another suggestion...

Your doctor may or may not know the answer to this question.
It is important that he/or/she find out...Has the laboratory
properly validated the HER2 test it uses? The information about the
validation of the Her2 test can be found by contacting the head
of the laboratory (often the Pathologist).

If the laboratory does not have control/assurance procedures in place, the sample should be sent to a reference laboratory that does meet
quality control/assurance procedures.

Hope this helps.
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Jean
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Lumpectomy 4/15/05 - 6MM IDC
Node Neg. (Sentinel node)
ER+ 90% / PR-, Her2+++ by FISH
Ki-67 40%
Arimidex 5/05
Radiation 32 trt, 5/30/05
Oncotype DX test 4/17/06, 31% high risk
TOPO 11 neg. 4/06
Stopped Arimidex 5/06
TCH 5/06, 6 treatments
Herceptin 5/06 - for 1 yr.
9/06 Completed chemo
Started Femara Sept. 2006
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