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09-17-2007, 02:55 PM
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calcium and magnesium taken together?
Hello all,
I watched Oprah this afternoon and Dr. Oz was on talking about food. They talked about calcim and this is what Dr. Oz said (a direct quote) "to deposit calcium appropriately in your bones you don't want to take calcium alone - take with magnesium all the time. You want to take them together. We normally tell folks to take 1200 mg. of calcium and anywhere between 600 - 800 mg. of magesium." He also said taking magnesium with the calcium avoids constipation. I always thought we shouldn't take magnesium with the calcium.
What are your thoughts?
Mary Jo
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09-17-2007, 04:15 PM
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calcium
I thought we were supposed to take calcium, vitamin D, and magnesium all at the same time.
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09-17-2007, 05:16 PM
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Hi
My Dr. said take my calcium and magnesium and Vitamin D all together.
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09-17-2007, 06:20 PM
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Absolutely. That is what I was told several years ago by my nutritionist.
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NOV 2012 - 9 yr anniversary
JULY 2012 - 7 yr anniversary stage IV (of 50...)
Nov'03~ dX stage 2B
Dec'03~ Rt side mastectomy, Her2+, ER/PR+, 10 nodes out, one node positive
Jan'04~ Taxotere/Adria/Cytoxan x 6, NED, no Rads, Tamox. 1 year, Arimadex 3 mo., NED 14 mo.
Sept'05~ micro mets lungs/chest nodes/underarm node, Switched to Aromasin, T/C/H x 7, NED 6 months - Herceptin only
Aug'06~ micro mets chest nodes, & bone spot @ C3 neck, Added Taxol to Herceptin
Feb'07~ Genetic testing, BRCA 1&2 neg
Apr'07~ MRI - two 9mm brain mets & 5 punctates, new left chest met, & small increase of bone spot C3 neck, Stopped Aromasin
May'07~ Started Tykerb/Xeloda, no WBR for now
June'07~ MRI - stable brain mets, no new mets, 9mm spots less enhanced, CA15.3 down 45.5 to 9.3 in 10 wks, Ty/Xel working magic!
Aug'07~ MRI - brain mets shrunk half, NO NEW BRAIN METS!!, TMs stable @ 9.2
Oct'07~ PET/CT & MRI show NED
Apr'08~ scans still show NED in the head, small bone spot on right iliac crest (rear pelvic bone)
Sept'08~ MRI shows activity in brain mets, completed 5 fractions/5 consecutive days of IMRT to zap the pesky buggers
Oct'08~ dropped Xeloda, switched to tri-weekly Herceptin in combo with Tykerb, extend to tri-monthly Zometa infusion
Dec'08~ Brain MRI- 4 spots reduced to punctate size, large spot shrunk by 3mm, CT of torso clear/pelvis spot stable
June'09~ new 3-4mm left cerrebellar spot zapped with IMRT targeted rads
Sept'09~ new 6mm & 1 cm spots in pituitary/optic chiasm area. Rx= 25 days of 3D conformal fractionated targeted IMRT to the tumors.
Oct'09~ 25 days of low dose 3D conformal fractionated targeted IMRT to the bone mets spot on rt. iliac crest that have been watching for 2 years. Added daily Aromasin back into treatment regimen.
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June'10~ Tumor markers (CA15.3) dropped from 37 to 23 after one month on Tamoxifen. Continue to monitor adrenal gland spot. Remain on Tykerb/Herceptin/Tamoxifen.
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09-17-2007, 06:36 PM
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So I should be taking my calcium, 1200 mg., my Vit. D, 1000 mg, and Magnesium, 800 mg. (these are all separate tablets) all at the same time?
Thanks again,
MJ
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09-17-2007, 07:05 PM
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Great Thread Maryjo
MaryJo,
I was told not take more than 500grams of calicum at one time to spread the intake of calicum - our bodies cannot ingest more than that at a time.
Please correct me if I am wrong - but this is what my health food store
professional told me. I also take Vit. D and magnisium with the calicum
and I distribute it in three parts throughout the day. I was also told not
to take B 6 or any B complex vitamins at the same time with calicum.
This is a great thread. I would appreicate any additional information on
what vitamins should not be taken along with others as that can defeat
our good intentions.
Kind Regards,
Jean
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Ki-67 40%
Arimidex 5/05
Radiation 32 trt, 5/30/05
Oncotype DX test 4/17/06, 31% high risk
TOPO 11 neg. 4/06
Stopped Arimidex 5/06
TCH 5/06, 6 treatments
Herceptin 5/06 - for 1 yr.
9/06 Completed chemo
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09-17-2007, 07:32 PM
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You need calcium and magnesium (and Vitamin D) to build healthy bone but I stand by my "taking them separately".
Unless you are using calcium and magnesium to relax the muscles to help you sleep, they should be taken separately. This is especially true if you do not eat enough greens (the best natural source of magnesium) and are deficient in magnesium. Calcium absorption overtakes that of magnesium. And since magnesium is more highly water soluble than calcium, then it is washed out of the body before it can be utilized.
Calcium also greatly inhibits the uptake of iron (hence eating the kosher way of not mixing meat and dairy). The body so preferentially uptakes calcium over other metals (yes, they are atomically metals - magnesium too) that iron and others are wasted.
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2 micromets to sentinel node
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09-18-2007, 04:50 AM
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There were quite a few posts on this a year or so ago so you might like to search.
Please also see posts on omega threes and bone density osteoporosis etc.
Wider calcium in the diet is also a factor for consideration. Excess calcium and other deficits can have negative consequences - see previous posts.
Some argue whole food veg etc. are the best starting point.
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