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Old 12-15-2005, 08:00 AM   #1
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Nausea in between treatments

Hi everyone,

Forgot my log-in account info, but have a question...I am struggling with waves of nausea in between herceptin treatments every 3 weeks. I am wondering if it could be related or not. I can deal with it, it is just annoying. Does anyone else notice this? Maybe it is unrelated. Just wanted to get some input. Thanks everyone for all the support.

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Old 12-15-2005, 08:43 AM   #2
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Compazine

Hi ,

My wife just started Herceptin and Chemo(again). You might ask your doctor for some compazine(spel). It seems to do the trick for her. I am mostly sure her Nausea is from the chemo and not the Herceptin, but as I have read many times that each person responds differently.

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Old 12-15-2005, 09:19 AM   #3
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Ginger is reported as good for pain and nausea. If you juice you could try adding it to your juice mix.

I do not know if there are any problems taking it with chemo.

Here are two links

RB

http://www.cancer.org/docroot/ETO/co...iewmode=print&

ABSTRACT

Ginger

Other common name(s): ginger root

Scientific/medical name(s): Zingiber officinale

Description

Ginger is a plant native to southeast Asia that is also grown in the United States, China, India, and various tropical regions. The root is usually the part of the plant used in herbal remedies.

Overview

Ginger has a long history as a pungent spice for cooking and as an herbal remedy for upset stomach, motion sickness, and loss of appetite. Some controlled studies in humans show ginger reduces nausea and vomiting from some causes. Most clinical studies of ginger have tested the use of this herb for nausea associated with pregnancy or following surgery. Very little is known about its effectiveness in relieving nausea and vomiting from chemotherapy.

There are a number of conventional medicines for nausea and vomiting associated with chemotherapy. There is no clinical evidence that ginger can add to the effectiveness of these medicines. Nonetheless, some people with cancer find that the taste or aroma of beverages and foods containing ginger helps soothe their nausea.

Ginger may interfere with blood clotting and should only be used with a doctor’s approval by cancer patients. This concern applies mostly to people whose clotting function is already weakened by their cancer or its treatment, or to people having surgery.

http://www.immunesupport.com/news/99spr012.htm

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Ginger
Great in CFIDS/FMS!

Ginger can have wonderful health benefits, in CFIDS/FMS. Although native to Asia, Jamaica is the major producer, exporting over 2 million pounds a year. There are times that fresh Ginger (high in Gingerol) and dried Ginger (high in Shogaol) will have different effects. I will note the uses where this distinction is important. Although Ginger's benefits are numerous, I'll begin with those that mostly apply to CFIDS/ FMS. These include:

1. Relief of muscle and/or joint pain. Many components of Ginger are, like aspirin and Motrin, potent inhibitors of inflammatory substances (e.g., Prostaglandins). Ginger is also thought to inhibit "Substance P," a pain mediator that is known to be elevated in FMS. This is the same substance that Capsaicin (hot pepper) creams work through. For Substance P inhibition, dried Ginger seems to be most effective. In a study of 10 patients with muscle pains and 46 patients with arthritis (Rheumatoid and regular "wear and tear" osteoarthritis), 100% of muscle pain and 75% of arthritis patients noted relief. The recommended dose was 1000mg of powdered Ginger a day. Many patients took 3000-4000mg a day and noted quicker and better relief using the higher dose (Medical Hypothesis,39:342-8; 1992).
2. Nausea and vomiting is decreased by 500-1000mg of Ginger. Ginger also decreases bowel spasm while improving gastric motility (moving food out of the stomach to the bowels). These are often major problems in CFIDS/ FMS, resulting in bloating after eating. Ginger can also inhibit diarrhea. Fresh (e.g., roasted) but not dry Ginger inhibited stomach ulcers caused by aspirin and Motrin (in several animal studies).
3. Warming the body (increasing thermogenesis). The fresh Ginger works much better for this.
4. Migraine headaches are reported to be helped by Ginger.
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Old 12-17-2005, 08:05 AM   #4
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Hi there-I receive weekly herceptin treatments. I had nausea one night after my 7th treatment. It was all night long and it came in waves, but it was mild. I just received my 8th treatment and I did not have the nausea. So, I'm not sure either-could have been a virus in my case? It's just that it was strange that it was on the treatment night. I hope yours gets better. When I told my nurse about it, she suggested possibly taking compazine, but I decided to wait and see what happens. Again, I hope your nausea goes away or you find an easy remedy. Good Luck! Denise
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Old 12-19-2005, 05:49 PM   #5
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I have had bad bouts of nausea from chemo and surgeries. For another approach there is a wrist band for people with motion sickness that creates a small pulse on the inside of your wrist. It works everytime for me. If I take it off then the nausea returns with-in a couple of hours. You can pick these up at places that have boating supplies or possibly on line. The one I have was $80 but I have seen them less expensive. Well worth the money since it works.
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