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Old 05-17-2011, 07:51 AM   #21
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Re: more lung mets- what to do???

No Sandra I did not feel anything until my lymph growth..I had felt something in my breast tho before but they never saw it on scan (but it was there they did not look properly).. get things checked is a good policy..

TDM-1 not sure can have access to it but yes still looking at options. yes tykerb herc is only a transient treatment but for few its enough so may you be one of these.. yes the Tcell treatment could be an option if they accept me my Tcell counts is low..

again thanks for all the messages
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June 06: BC stage I
Grade 3; ER/PR neg
Her-2+++; lumpectomies

Aug 06: Stage IV
liver mets: 6 tumours
July 06 to Jan 07: 2*FEC+6*Taxotere; 3*TACE; LITT
March 07- Sept 07: Vaccination trial (phase 2, peptide based) at the UW (Seattle).
Herceptin since 2006
NED til Oct 09
Recurrence Oct 2009: to internal mammary gland since October 2009 missed on Oct and March 2010 scan.. palpable nodes in May 2010 when I realised..
Nov 2011:7 mets to lungs progressing fast failed hercp/tykerb/xeloda combo..

superior vena cava blocked: stent but face remains puffy

April 2012: Teresa Trial, randomised to TDM1
Nov 2012 progressing on TDM1
Dec 2012 blockage of my airways by tumours, obliteration of these blocking tumours breathing better but hoping for more- at mo too many tumours to count in the lungs and nodes.

Dec 2012 Starting new trial S-222611 phase 1b dual egfr her2+ inhibitor.



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Old 05-18-2011, 07:32 AM   #22
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Re: more lung mets- what to do???

http://www.medpagetoday.com/MeetingCoverage/ASCO/20504

My mom (metastatic breast cancer to skull, bones, lungs and liver) is taking navelbine + herceptin + everolimus and it has worked to an extent for her. Xeloda/Tykerb combination didn't work for her and this was the only option we had left. Her tumor marker has halved in about two months, and the disease is stable at the moment. Tumors in the liver has shrank a bit too.

Don't know whether it will help with lung metastasis, but can't hurt to ask you doctor.
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Old 05-18-2011, 09:08 AM   #23
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Re: more lung mets- what to do???

Hi FOB,

It's me, your Seattle buddy chiming in on the joys of Navelbine. My hair thinned, but it wasn't really obvious to others. I had stomach issues with Navelbine, but Nexium helped quite a bit. All in all it was a good chemo for me. I didn't stop or even have to slow down. I know it will do the job for you!

Hugs and prayers!
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lumpectomy
4 Rounds A/C
tiny area of interest in liver - watching
12 rounds of Taxol w/ Herceptin
tiny area cleared - Stage IV (because area responded to chemo)
Herceptin weekly
27 rounds radiation
NED 8/06
10/06 oopherectomy
Arimidex
1/07-7/07 Vaccine Trial - UW Seattle
3/09 liver met back
3/09 Navelbine, Herceptin Aromasin
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Old 05-25-2011, 05:38 PM   #24
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Re: more lung mets- what to do???

Dear FOB,
Any time we stop responding to treatment it is an awful feeling and hard to deal with.
After a good long cry, perhaps you can find it within yourself to start soaking up knowledge again.
Call Seattle and let Dr. Disis know that you are not responding to treatment. She may suggest a follow up trial. If I remember correctly, she said she would recommend a conventional treatment then schedule you for a followup for a reinfusion of your kicked up t cells to give the cancer a one-two punch.
And finally, when I had mets to all 4 lobes of my lungs, I received Herceptin and Navelbine. Within 6 months, I was NED. That was 7 years ago. Navelbine isn't bad. I didn't lose any hair. As long as I stayed on top of my blood counts and got my Procrit, I felt fine. It certainly is worth an ask; right?
Hang in there angel and stay with us. Tell us what direction you chose and how you do.
Love and Hugs,
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2005 - Breast Ca vaccinations with the Tumor Vaccine Group in Seattle

2011 - Still Herceptin only and NED


2011, June - STOPPED Herceptin and kicked up my heels!

2012, February - 1 small tumor came back to haunt me in my lungs - back on Herceptin only, tumor stable.


2015, November - tumor on lungs removed (Segmentectomy), back on Herceptin only
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Old 05-26-2011, 04:38 PM   #25
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Re: more lung mets- what to do???

Hi FOB,

Was looking to see if you had made any choices on the treatment plan. Adding my prayers and best wishes...

hugs,
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Jan 2008 - Bilateral mastectomy, prophylactic Rt. side.
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Old 05-28-2011, 06:50 AM   #26
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Re: more lung mets- what to do???

I recently found out I have a lung met too,it's about 1.3cm.I was told there is a trial if you have not had chemo yet for the second time,which I had already had so wasn't able to participate at this time.But,my dr is very hopefull ,as am I that this new drug will become available very soon! So for now I'm on Tykerb/Herceptin. If I find out the combination they are using in this trial I'll let you know! Your not alone,I'll be praying for you! I was only 32 when I started this long journey,keep fighting!
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Old 05-28-2011, 08:12 AM   #27
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Re: more lung mets- what to do???

FOB
Another vote for Navelbine....I did not have lung mets, but I did have a response from it, and felt it was very easy to tolerate, except for indigestion...Nexium took care of that....stay strong, you still have many options, and we are here to support you and lift your spirits.
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Core Biopsy 2/22/02
L. Mastectomy 2/25/2002
Stage 1, 0.7cm IDC, Node Neg from 19 nodes Her2+++ ER PR Neg
6/2003 Reconstruction W/ Tissue Expander, Silicone Implant
9/2003 Stage IV with Mets to Supraclavicular nodes
9/2003 Began Herceptin every 3 weeks
3/2006 Xeloda 2500mg/Herceptin for recurrence to neck nodes
3/2007 Added back the Xeloda with Herceptin for continued mets to nodes
5/2007 Taken Off Xeloda, no longer working
6/14/07 Taxol/Herceptin/Avastin
3/26 - 5/28/08 Taxol Holiday Whopeeeeeeeee
5/29 2008 Back on Taxol w Herceptin q 2 weeks
4/2009 Progression on Taxol & Paralyzed L Vocal Cord from Nodes Pressing on Nerve
5/2009 Begin Rx with Navelbine/Herceptin
11/09 Progression on Navelbine
Fought for and started Tykerb/Herceptin...nodes are melting!!!!!
2/2010 Back to Avastin/Herceptin
5/2010 Switched to Metronomic Chemo with Herceptin...Cytoxan and Methotrexate
Pericardial Window Surgery to Drain Pericardial Effusion
7/2010 Back to walking a mile a day...YEAH!!!!
9/2010 Nodes are back with a vengence in neck
Qualified for TDM-1 EAP
10/6/10 Begin my miracle drug, TDM-1
Mixed response, shrinking internal nodes, progression skin mets after 3 treatments
12/6/10 Started Halaven (Eribulen) /Herceptin excellent results in 2 treatments
2/2011 I CELEBRATE my 9 YEAR MARK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
7/5/11 begin Gemzar /Herceptin for node progression
2/8/2012 Gemzar stopped, Continue Herceptin
2/20/2012 Begin Tomo Radiation to Neck Nodes
2/21/2012 I CELEBRATE 10 YEARS
5/12/2012 BeganTaxotere/ Herceptin is my next miracle for new node progression
6/28/12 Stopped Taxotere due to pregression, Started Perjeta/Herceptin
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Old 06-02-2011, 04:18 PM   #28
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Re: more lung mets- what to do???

Have your doctor check into Navelbine that is what I am currently taking for lung and liver cancer. Be pushy - it is your body. Keep us all updated - you are in my prayers.
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Old 06-02-2011, 05:23 PM   #29
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Additional info on lung mets:
http://her2support.org/vbulletin/sho...ight=lung+mets

another lung med that can be used on BC:
http://her2support.org/vbulletin/sho...713#post225713
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Old 06-02-2011, 05:49 PM   #30
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Re: more lung mets- what to do???

I am not sure yet what my next move will be. the growth is slow but still a growth,but slow. Not sure if i switch to navelbine hercp i may not find a bigger growth. I had progressed when chemo naive at my first rounds of FEC. Taxol still an option I suppose but somewhat I am reluctant to go though that again (did lots of taxoter in 2006, and just 1.5 round bit of taxol this time, enough to loose my hair.. last year) could add rapamycin (its cheap could not do everolimus).

My breast node is smaller and may potentially be regressing (poorly vasculerised). So I have a bit of a action from current combo. or not I had cryosurged the area last year so scan difficult to interpret.

btw how is navelbine taken iv weekly, tablets ??

I may again try to target the mets directly again, it has worked for me so far, but involve financial implication to sort for that and honestly I am very tired mentally by all this at the moment.

But I look very well by the way, people keep on telling me how healthy I look. So that's alright, more than alright

Thank you all for your encouragements and knowledge
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June 06: BC stage I
Grade 3; ER/PR neg
Her-2+++; lumpectomies

Aug 06: Stage IV
liver mets: 6 tumours
July 06 to Jan 07: 2*FEC+6*Taxotere; 3*TACE; LITT
March 07- Sept 07: Vaccination trial (phase 2, peptide based) at the UW (Seattle).
Herceptin since 2006
NED til Oct 09
Recurrence Oct 2009: to internal mammary gland since October 2009 missed on Oct and March 2010 scan.. palpable nodes in May 2010 when I realised..
Nov 2011:7 mets to lungs progressing fast failed hercp/tykerb/xeloda combo..

superior vena cava blocked: stent but face remains puffy

April 2012: Teresa Trial, randomised to TDM1
Nov 2012 progressing on TDM1
Dec 2012 blockage of my airways by tumours, obliteration of these blocking tumours breathing better but hoping for more- at mo too many tumours to count in the lungs and nodes.

Dec 2012 Starting new trial S-222611 phase 1b dual egfr her2+ inhibitor.



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Old 06-03-2011, 04:53 AM   #31
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Re: more lung mets- what to do???

navelbine - I was taking it IV 3wks on one wk off. But last Tuesday my wbc was low - so they changed it to 2 weeks on to see what happens.
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Old 06-03-2011, 06:04 AM   #32
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Re: more lung mets- what to do???

Reread your Dalai Lama quote, I think you need it right now! I know it is exhausting, but take it one step at a time. We are cheering and praying for you! Hugs!
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Nottingham score grade 2
Ki67 30%
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5/2010 Herceptin/Taxotere 4D/3wks
8/2010 Herceptin until May 2011
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Old 06-03-2011, 10:21 AM   #33
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Re: more lung mets- what to do???

FOB
Have you thoroughly researched ALL clinical trial options here in UK? A lot aren't widely advertised and depend on your onc. Similarly have you looked at all the targeted/local treatment options. There may be a financial implication if you have to travel but otherwise should be free.

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