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05-15-2008, 08:17 AM
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What's a MUGA scan like?
Hi ladies!
I will be having one of these soon, and I'm wondering what to expect. What kind of machine is it? How long does it take? Are there contrast dyes involved?
I've had the MRI's, the CT's and the Bones scanned. I don't like having to lie completely still for ANYTHING. It makes me anxious. I can deal with it, but I'm a wiggler.
You guys are most knowlegable. Give me your wisdom!!!
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Terri B.
46 yrs. young
Dx IDC 3/6/08
1.5 cm & .6 cm grade III, Stage IIA
es/pr- Her2+++, 9/9 richardson
Double Mast w/expanders 4-14-08
3/9 nodes positive.
additional excision rt breast 4-25-08
weekly T/H x 12 (6-2-08) Done!
FEC x4 (9-8-08) Last one 11-10-08!
Herceptin complete 8/10/09!!
33 RADS DONE 2/13/09!
rt. breast biopsy 3/20/09 .. B9!!
reconstruction complete!
DEEEEEEported on 5/19/10!!
almost 5 YEARS NED!!
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05-15-2008, 08:33 AM
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Terri, when they did mine it was like getting an ultrasound of the heart area. They just put the ultrasound goo on you and then just rub the ultrasound thing around the heart area. Took about 15 or 20 minutes. The worst part for me was holding my arm above my head not too long after my masectomy.
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Nancy
Diagnosed 4/06, age 45
IDC, 3.5 cm, 4/7 positive nodes
Stage IIB
Her2++, ER & PR++
Mastectomy, 4 AC, 4 Taxol & Herception for one year
Radiation
Ovaries out 4/07
Currently taking Arimidex and Zometa every 6 months
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05-15-2008, 08:38 AM
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Beautiful! That's exactly what I needed to know!
Thanks Basset girl!
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Terri B.
46 yrs. young
Dx IDC 3/6/08
1.5 cm & .6 cm grade III, Stage IIA
es/pr- Her2+++, 9/9 richardson
Double Mast w/expanders 4-14-08
3/9 nodes positive.
additional excision rt breast 4-25-08
weekly T/H x 12 (6-2-08) Done!
FEC x4 (9-8-08) Last one 11-10-08!
Herceptin complete 8/10/09!!
33 RADS DONE 2/13/09!
rt. breast biopsy 3/20/09 .. B9!!
reconstruction complete!
DEEEEEEported on 5/19/10!!
almost 5 YEARS NED!!
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05-15-2008, 09:01 AM
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Terri
It sounds to me like Nancy is describing an echo...which can also be used to check the LVEF....with a Muga, they do inject contrast dye, much like a CT and you do have to lie still....ask for the echo, cheaper and easier....just hard to read if you have had L sided reconstruction with an implant. If you get anxious during these scans, ask your dr. to order an Ativan...just have to have someone with you to drive you home!.
Hope this helps.
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Hugs & Blessings
Sheila
Diagnosed at age 49.99999 2/21/2002 via Mammography (Calcifications)
Core Biopsy 2/22/02
L. Mastectomy 2/25/2002
Stage 1, 0.7cm IDC, Node Neg from 19 nodes Her2+++ ER PR Neg
6/2003 Reconstruction W/ Tissue Expander, Silicone Implant
9/2003 Stage IV with Mets to Supraclavicular nodes
9/2003 Began Herceptin every 3 weeks
3/2006 Xeloda 2500mg/Herceptin for recurrence to neck nodes
3/2007 Added back the Xeloda with Herceptin for continued mets to nodes
5/2007 Taken Off Xeloda, no longer working
6/14/07 Taxol/Herceptin/Avastin
3/26 - 5/28/08 Taxol Holiday Whopeeeeeeeee
5/29 2008 Back on Taxol w Herceptin q 2 weeks
4/2009 Progression on Taxol & Paralyzed L Vocal Cord from Nodes Pressing on Nerve
5/2009 Begin Rx with Navelbine/Herceptin
11/09 Progression on Navelbine
Fought for and started Tykerb/Herceptin...nodes are melting!!!!!
2/2010 Back to Avastin/Herceptin
5/2010 Switched to Metronomic Chemo with Herceptin...Cytoxan and Methotrexate
Pericardial Window Surgery to Drain Pericardial Effusion
7/2010 Back to walking a mile a day...YEAH!!!!
9/2010 Nodes are back with a vengence in neck
Qualified for TDM-1 EAP
10/6/10 Begin my miracle drug, TDM-1
Mixed response, shrinking internal nodes, progression skin mets after 3 treatments
12/6/10 Started Halaven (Eribulen) /Herceptin excellent results in 2 treatments
2/2011 I CELEBRATE my 9 YEAR MARK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
7/5/11 begin Gemzar /Herceptin for node progression
2/8/2012 Gemzar stopped, Continue Herceptin
2/20/2012 Begin Tomo Radiation to Neck Nodes
2/21/2012 I CELEBRATE 10 YEARS
5/12/2012 BeganTaxotere/ Herceptin is my next miracle for new node progression
6/28/12 Stopped Taxotere due to pregression, Started Perjeta/Herceptin
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05-15-2008, 09:06 AM
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Oops, sorry Terri. Sheila is right. They did echos on me when I was on Herceptin. Ask for the echo. I never had the Muga.
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Nancy
Diagnosed 4/06, age 45
IDC, 3.5 cm, 4/7 positive nodes
Stage IIB
Her2++, ER & PR++
Mastectomy, 4 AC, 4 Taxol & Herception for one year
Radiation
Ovaries out 4/07
Currently taking Arimidex and Zometa every 6 months
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05-15-2008, 09:49 AM
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Well, okay then. I hope i get to choose!
I have expanders in currently, no implants yet. And I've only been filled to about an A cup, so there is not much "obstruction" there (giggles)!
When I went through my MRI, that one was the hardest. The gave me xanax and I didn't care after that!
The bone scan was hard because they wrapped me up and told me i couldn't move. That's very annoying and when i start "thinking" about it, it brings on a mild anxiety attack!
Heart starts thumping, I start breathing fast.
Am i weird??
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Terri B.
46 yrs. young
Dx IDC 3/6/08
1.5 cm & .6 cm grade III, Stage IIA
es/pr- Her2+++, 9/9 richardson
Double Mast w/expanders 4-14-08
3/9 nodes positive.
additional excision rt breast 4-25-08
weekly T/H x 12 (6-2-08) Done!
FEC x4 (9-8-08) Last one 11-10-08!
Herceptin complete 8/10/09!!
33 RADS DONE 2/13/09!
rt. breast biopsy 3/20/09 .. B9!!
reconstruction complete!
DEEEEEEported on 5/19/10!!
almost 5 YEARS NED!!
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05-15-2008, 02:13 PM
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I've had several Muga's. They start out by injecting a chemical into your vein which is "sticky" to attact the radioactive chemical to your red blood cells.Then you sit for 15-20 min. Then, they inject the radioactive stuff and take you into the room for the test. It lasts about 12 minutes and you basically just lie there while it takes pictures of your heart beating. The machine is positioned close to your body, but there is nothing resembling claustrophobic conditions. I usually doze off. It's pretty easy. The worst part is getting stuck, but hey we're all used to that by now, right?! Good luck to you.
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dx 07/20/07 with IDC
left MRM with expander 08/07
2.2 cm er/pr-, her2+ all nodes clear
2/08 BRCA negative
4 AC dose dense 09/06/07-10/18/07
12 weekly Taxol/Herceptin 11/01/07-01/18/08
Herceptin 1 year/done 10/31/08!
2/08 reconstuction
port out 12/4/08
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05-15-2008, 02:19 PM
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Stuck?!? Stuck how??!?
OMG... my heart is starting to beat fast....
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Terri B.
46 yrs. young
Dx IDC 3/6/08
1.5 cm & .6 cm grade III, Stage IIA
es/pr- Her2+++, 9/9 richardson
Double Mast w/expanders 4-14-08
3/9 nodes positive.
additional excision rt breast 4-25-08
weekly T/H x 12 (6-2-08) Done!
FEC x4 (9-8-08) Last one 11-10-08!
Herceptin complete 8/10/09!!
33 RADS DONE 2/13/09!
rt. breast biopsy 3/20/09 .. B9!!
reconstruction complete!
DEEEEEEported on 5/19/10!!
almost 5 YEARS NED!!
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05-15-2008, 02:25 PM
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Treei
With a needle to inject the dye....just ask your doc and see if an echo is OK...some prefer it!
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"Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle."
Hugs & Blessings
Sheila
Diagnosed at age 49.99999 2/21/2002 via Mammography (Calcifications)
Core Biopsy 2/22/02
L. Mastectomy 2/25/2002
Stage 1, 0.7cm IDC, Node Neg from 19 nodes Her2+++ ER PR Neg
6/2003 Reconstruction W/ Tissue Expander, Silicone Implant
9/2003 Stage IV with Mets to Supraclavicular nodes
9/2003 Began Herceptin every 3 weeks
3/2006 Xeloda 2500mg/Herceptin for recurrence to neck nodes
3/2007 Added back the Xeloda with Herceptin for continued mets to nodes
5/2007 Taken Off Xeloda, no longer working
6/14/07 Taxol/Herceptin/Avastin
3/26 - 5/28/08 Taxol Holiday Whopeeeeeeeee
5/29 2008 Back on Taxol w Herceptin q 2 weeks
4/2009 Progression on Taxol & Paralyzed L Vocal Cord from Nodes Pressing on Nerve
5/2009 Begin Rx with Navelbine/Herceptin
11/09 Progression on Navelbine
Fought for and started Tykerb/Herceptin...nodes are melting!!!!!
2/2010 Back to Avastin/Herceptin
5/2010 Switched to Metronomic Chemo with Herceptin...Cytoxan and Methotrexate
Pericardial Window Surgery to Drain Pericardial Effusion
7/2010 Back to walking a mile a day...YEAH!!!!
9/2010 Nodes are back with a vengence in neck
Qualified for TDM-1 EAP
10/6/10 Begin my miracle drug, TDM-1
Mixed response, shrinking internal nodes, progression skin mets after 3 treatments
12/6/10 Started Halaven (Eribulen) /Herceptin excellent results in 2 treatments
2/2011 I CELEBRATE my 9 YEAR MARK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
7/5/11 begin Gemzar /Herceptin for node progression
2/8/2012 Gemzar stopped, Continue Herceptin
2/20/2012 Begin Tomo Radiation to Neck Nodes
2/21/2012 I CELEBRATE 10 YEARS
5/12/2012 BeganTaxotere/ Herceptin is my next miracle for new node progression
6/28/12 Stopped Taxotere due to pregression, Started Perjeta/Herceptin
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05-15-2008, 02:25 PM
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Hi Terri - no one gave me a choice - my onc just told me I had to get a Muga scan, so down the hall I went. They injected something into my arm, then I had to lay flat on my back with my left arm over my head. It wasn't claustrophobic at all.....but my arm got tired in that position - fortunately they gave me little breaks. They took 3 scans, each one lasted about 15 minutes. Between the scans I could put my arm down and rest it......even though it was resting against my forehead, it got very tired. Fortunately it wasn't my "bad" arm on the mastectomy and SNB side......no way could I have held it in that position. But my Muga was soon after my surgery - so hopefully you're feeling more recovered and the arm position won't bother you. My MUGA score was a 68% which they said was excellent. (Somehow, I feel like I'm in school and only 100% is excellent - but what do I know?)
Good luck Terri - let us know how it goes!
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Kathy
2/5/08 - dx age 53, post-menopausal;
IDC Stage 1, Grade 1
ER+ 90% /PR+ 90% /Her2++++, BRAC1 & 2 neg
3/5/08 - mast with muscle-sparing free tram;
0/7 nodes clear; Stage 1 lymphedema in right arm
3/11/08 - MRSA infection in abdomen causes large hernia
4/11/08 - Oncotype DX score 22 (intermediate)
4/12/08 - Muga score 67%
4/23/08 - Chemo, Navelbine and Herceptin every 2 weeks
8/20/08 - Last Navelbine infusion! Yay!
1/22/09 - First mammo since dx - unaffected breast CLEAR!
1/30/09 - Second Muga score 63%
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05-15-2008, 02:31 PM
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I've heard that sometimes they have you lie with your arm over your head, but that's not the way they do mine. Weird, isn't it, how different these things can be? Maybe it's different types of equipment. Don't worry about getting stuck...it's just a little pin-prick!
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dx 07/20/07 with IDC
left MRM with expander 08/07
2.2 cm er/pr-, her2+ all nodes clear
2/08 BRCA negative
4 AC dose dense 09/06/07-10/18/07
12 weekly Taxol/Herceptin 11/01/07-01/18/08
Herceptin 1 year/done 10/31/08!
2/08 reconstuction
port out 12/4/08
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05-15-2008, 02:40 PM
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Oh no!! Ha ha haha!
When you said "stuck" I thought you meant "stuck in the scanning machine" or something like that. Never mind me. I'm practicing for "chemo brain". I do not fear needles, thank goodness!
Swimee, I have recovered nicely. Both "zippers" are closed, all scabs gone. I just have a bunch of extra skin (mostly under my arms. PS said he can take care of that later). I have been "filled" to an adolescent cup size. Hey, I'm not complaining! I think it's cute that my boobs are smaller than my 13 year old!
Speaking of stuff to make you smile, my 13 year old said to me "Mom, now that you have NO boobs, you look REALLY pregnant".
Thanks kid.
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Terri B.
46 yrs. young
Dx IDC 3/6/08
1.5 cm & .6 cm grade III, Stage IIA
es/pr- Her2+++, 9/9 richardson
Double Mast w/expanders 4-14-08
3/9 nodes positive.
additional excision rt breast 4-25-08
weekly T/H x 12 (6-2-08) Done!
FEC x4 (9-8-08) Last one 11-10-08!
Herceptin complete 8/10/09!!
33 RADS DONE 2/13/09!
rt. breast biopsy 3/20/09 .. B9!!
reconstruction complete!
DEEEEEEported on 5/19/10!!
almost 5 YEARS NED!!
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05-15-2008, 02:50 PM
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Just wanted to add something before the 'injection'.
I think the staff 'drew' a very small amount of my blood first, mixed it with the radioactive material, then 'injected' it back to my vein.
Also, I think the instruction says not to have food (six hours beforehand) nor liquid (3 hrs?) before the scan.
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05-16-2008, 01:14 PM
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Had three MUGAs. The scan room was bright. They just bring a large televising size monitor over your chest (heart). Did not take long at all, other than the injection and waiting for it to diffuse. Not confining at all. But boy was I hungry each time. Had to listen to my gut growl during the scans.
Carla
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05-16-2008, 02:04 PM
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MUGA is not at all confining--- the tech stood and walked around hte room within clear sight. You just lay on a gurney like bed and have a huge disc that resemles the starship Enterprise hoover above your upper body... Plenty of room above you to see the room all around. Just get the pillow under your knees and chillax-
It was very comfortable and soothing. Thye played ENYA whilst I got scanned...
maria
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05-16-2008, 02:12 PM
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Hey Terri! I'm so glad you asked about this, as I will prob be having one soon, also. Also wanted to tell you that I live about 2 hrs. away from you- in Jonesboro. How cool is that?! Hope to hear from you!! Hugs & Blessings, Kelli
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Kelli 40yrs. at dx 3-14-08, IDC, ILC,DCIS RB
Lumpectomy w/ snb 4-22-08 2/4+
ER+(5%) PR+(5%) Her2+(3+)
Axillary Node Dissection & Port Placement 5-08-08 2/24+(Total 4/28+)
4 dd AC/ 4 Taxol w/ Herceptin
Herceptin til July '09
Radiation 37 tx starting 10/20
Tamoxifan
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05-16-2008, 02:38 PM
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Wow, I have sisters here in Arkansas!!
SWEET!! Well, good luck with starting chemo, i will be right there soon.
Thanks for all the advise on the scans. Like i said, it's not really the "claustrophobia" of the scans, it's the "YOU CAN'T MOVE AT ALL OR WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO START ALLLLLLLLL OVER AGAIN!!!"
That's alot of pressure on a girl.
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Terri B.
46 yrs. young
Dx IDC 3/6/08
1.5 cm & .6 cm grade III, Stage IIA
es/pr- Her2+++, 9/9 richardson
Double Mast w/expanders 4-14-08
3/9 nodes positive.
additional excision rt breast 4-25-08
weekly T/H x 12 (6-2-08) Done!
FEC x4 (9-8-08) Last one 11-10-08!
Herceptin complete 8/10/09!!
33 RADS DONE 2/13/09!
rt. breast biopsy 3/20/09 .. B9!!
reconstruction complete!
DEEEEEEported on 5/19/10!!
almost 5 YEARS NED!!
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05-18-2008, 01:03 AM
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Terri, you are so funny, and so strong. I thought stuck meant the same thing you did! And kids do say the damnest things, don't they?
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