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Old 06-16-2007, 01:15 PM   #1
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Pattyz, Yours is a very encouraging post. Other then the brain mets you've had to deal with...you have done GREAT! So only 4 months of herceptin...that is fantastic. That's what's so up in the air about herceptin...I've seen so many do good that's stayed on it...and some like you that has had smaller amounts & have done just as well. I realize they just don't have all the answers yet on herceptin, but I am glad I did get at least the year of it.

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Mary Anne, Ok...give me the name and address of YOUR onc...maybe he will ok my herceptin. lol I really don't know why my onc should care if I stay on herceptin IF my insurance company will cover it? (And they will.) I am the one willing to take the risk of continuing...so what's it to them? Other then the expense. Since I am in a HMO...I always feel like what it really comes down to is them *saving* money at every turn. (Even if that is not the case.)
Mary Anne, what you said does *not* sound whacky at all. I sure wish I had an onc that would allow me to stay on it. As someone else once mentioned...I feel like why would you take someone off there blood pressure meds or diabetic meds...seems the same with herceptin even if its not? I hope they come up with some answers on this soon.

Thanks to both of you for replying.

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DX: 12-20-05 - Stage IIIA, Her2/Neu, 3+++,Er & Pr weakly positive, 5 of 16 pos nodes.
Rt. MRM on 1-3-06 -- No Rads due to compromised lungs.
Chemo started 2-7-06 -- TCH - - Finished 6-12-06
Finished yr of wkly herceptin 3-19-07
3-15-07 Lt side prophylactic simple mastectomy. -- Ooph 4-05-07
9-21-09 PET/CT "Recurrence" to Rt. axllia, Rt. femur, ilium. Possible Sacrum & liver? Now stage IV.
9-28-09 Loading dose of Herceptin & started Zometa
9-29-09 Power Port Placement
10-24-09 Mass 6.4 x 4.7 cm on Rt. femur head.
11-19-09 RT. Femur surgery - Rod placed
12-7-09 Navelbine added to Herceptin/Zometa.
3-23-10 Ten days of rads to RT femur. Completed.
4-05-10 Quit Navelbine--Herceptin/Zometa alone.
5-4-10 Appt. with Dr. Slamon to see what is next? Waiting on FISH results from femur biopsy.
Results to FISH was unsuccessful--this happens less then 2% of the time.
7-7-10 Recurrence to RT axilla again. Back to UCLA for options.
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Old 06-17-2007, 12:32 PM   #2
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Chelee, I would accept those 2 opinions. I was on Herceptin for over three years and it quit working about a year before I finally stopped. There is researxh that says Herceptin can and does quit working at some point. I am now on Tykerb (which targets the inside of the cell vs the outside(herceptin) and I am doing great. Ask them about Tykerb, if you even need it. It sounds like you are doing great and I am so happy for that. Love, Vickie
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3/04 TCH X4
7/ 04 MRM 9/04 Taxol/herceptin wkly 1 yr 33X rads
11/04 skin mets 33x rads,10/05 Avast/Herc. 11 mos.
8/ 06 PET mets lymphs, neck
9/ 06 Navelbine/herceptin
11/ 06 PET NED
2/ 07 skin mets, 4/07 Xeloda, 5/07 add Tykerb
2/ 08 Tykerb failed. Doxil /Herceptin 6 months
8/08 PET skin mets, 8/08 Abraxane/Avastin
11/ 08 PET prog., skin mets
1/09 PET/CT progress, 1/09 Ixempra, 2/09 add Xeloda and low dose Naltrexone
2/09 off Ixempra/Xeloda
3/09 navelbine/herc/cytoxin 4/09 PET shows regress.7/09 start Topotecan. Failed.
8/09 extensive mets rgt brst, back and torso. starting Pazopanib clinical trial.
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Old 06-20-2007, 01:06 PM   #3
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Vickie, I was thinking about getting a 3rd opinion on this...but the *delay* they've caused me by putting off my 2nd opinion kind of defeats the whole purpose of me staying on herceptin. I wanted to continue herceptin *without* any inturruptions till my two yr mark and then stop it. But they pulled me off of it at one year mark...then delayed my 2nd opinion for almost 3 months! So there went 3 months that I could of been on it down the toilet so to speak. But I can't worry about what could of been...just keep moving forward. I just feel like I should still be doing something...hope that feeling goes away soon.

Thanks so much for your reply Vickie. I will keep you in my prayers that Tykerb kicks butt and works wonders for you. I'm so glad to hear your doing good on Tykerb. May you be dancing with NED soon.

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DX: 12-20-05 - Stage IIIA, Her2/Neu, 3+++,Er & Pr weakly positive, 5 of 16 pos nodes.
Rt. MRM on 1-3-06 -- No Rads due to compromised lungs.
Chemo started 2-7-06 -- TCH - - Finished 6-12-06
Finished yr of wkly herceptin 3-19-07
3-15-07 Lt side prophylactic simple mastectomy. -- Ooph 4-05-07
9-21-09 PET/CT "Recurrence" to Rt. axllia, Rt. femur, ilium. Possible Sacrum & liver? Now stage IV.
9-28-09 Loading dose of Herceptin & started Zometa
9-29-09 Power Port Placement
10-24-09 Mass 6.4 x 4.7 cm on Rt. femur head.
11-19-09 RT. Femur surgery - Rod placed
12-7-09 Navelbine added to Herceptin/Zometa.
3-23-10 Ten days of rads to RT femur. Completed.
4-05-10 Quit Navelbine--Herceptin/Zometa alone.
5-4-10 Appt. with Dr. Slamon to see what is next? Waiting on FISH results from femur biopsy.
Results to FISH was unsuccessful--this happens less then 2% of the time.
7-7-10 Recurrence to RT axilla again. Back to UCLA for options.
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Old 06-20-2007, 02:01 PM   #4
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Thumbs up Chelee

Thanks for your post Chelee. Please don't worry about those three months and stay positive. Again, I would hope you are a candidate for Tykerb. It has worked wonders for me and few side effects ( I'm on a reduced dose). I pray for you everyday and am soooo happy that you are with a new Onc now. Much love and compassion, Vickie
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Feb 04 IBC IIIC/IV er-/pr- her2+++
3/04 TCH X4
7/ 04 MRM 9/04 Taxol/herceptin wkly 1 yr 33X rads
11/04 skin mets 33x rads,10/05 Avast/Herc. 11 mos.
8/ 06 PET mets lymphs, neck
9/ 06 Navelbine/herceptin
11/ 06 PET NED
2/ 07 skin mets, 4/07 Xeloda, 5/07 add Tykerb
2/ 08 Tykerb failed. Doxil /Herceptin 6 months
8/08 PET skin mets, 8/08 Abraxane/Avastin
11/ 08 PET prog., skin mets
1/09 PET/CT progress, 1/09 Ixempra, 2/09 add Xeloda and low dose Naltrexone
2/09 off Ixempra/Xeloda
3/09 navelbine/herc/cytoxin 4/09 PET shows regress.7/09 start Topotecan. Failed.
8/09 extensive mets rgt brst, back and torso. starting Pazopanib clinical trial.
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Old 07-08-2007, 08:05 AM   #5
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One more opinion I'll throw out. I went through the same concern over 2 years ago when I went off herceptin. When will HERA release results? Frustrating we don't have any more information than we do know. However, I know LOTS of women who were dx'd in 2003 and 2004 that were stage IIIA or later, and only had herceptin for a year, and most of them are doing fine now (myself included). I know your struggle....but at the same time the finnish study showed a few months of herceptin seems to have the same benefit as a year.
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Treatment: A/C *4, T *4, 1 year of herceptin (BCIRG 006), mastectomy, rads (7 weeks), zoladex (5 years) with tamoxifen (2 years)/aromisin (3 years), bilateral SGAP summer 05 at NOLA

Oops, retested tumor and I guess I'm er/pr- after all.
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Old 07-08-2007, 11:51 PM   #6
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Rose, The HERA results were pushed back. I've heard it will either be 2008 or 2009? I am hoping for much sooner. Its a shame after all this time they really don't know what's better...more or less? That being said, I am still glad I was able to get and complete a full yr of herceptin.
Its so hard to say what's better in the long run at this point. With the amount of time I have on the boards...I've seen so many women that have been on herceptin non-stop for yrs & doing GREAT! But then again...like you said Rose...there is also lots of women that are doing great that only had a yr of herceptin...and in some cases less due to low ECHO's or MUGA's. So who is to say? I can't wait till they release the results from the HERA. It won't be too soon for me.

Thanks so much for your post. I am thrilled to hear your doing fine too. I am so thankful for women like you that stick around to let us know how well your doing.

Chelee
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DX: 12-20-05 - Stage IIIA, Her2/Neu, 3+++,Er & Pr weakly positive, 5 of 16 pos nodes.
Rt. MRM on 1-3-06 -- No Rads due to compromised lungs.
Chemo started 2-7-06 -- TCH - - Finished 6-12-06
Finished yr of wkly herceptin 3-19-07
3-15-07 Lt side prophylactic simple mastectomy. -- Ooph 4-05-07
9-21-09 PET/CT "Recurrence" to Rt. axllia, Rt. femur, ilium. Possible Sacrum & liver? Now stage IV.
9-28-09 Loading dose of Herceptin & started Zometa
9-29-09 Power Port Placement
10-24-09 Mass 6.4 x 4.7 cm on Rt. femur head.
11-19-09 RT. Femur surgery - Rod placed
12-7-09 Navelbine added to Herceptin/Zometa.
3-23-10 Ten days of rads to RT femur. Completed.
4-05-10 Quit Navelbine--Herceptin/Zometa alone.
5-4-10 Appt. with Dr. Slamon to see what is next? Waiting on FISH results from femur biopsy.
Results to FISH was unsuccessful--this happens less then 2% of the time.
7-7-10 Recurrence to RT axilla again. Back to UCLA for options.
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