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Old 10-16-2009, 10:54 AM   #1
Lani
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more on AI joint pains and Carpal tunnel syndrome

(posted this previously on the wrong board it seems)
Clin Oncol. 2009 Sep 14. [Epub ahead of print] Links

Sonographic and Electrodiagnostic Evaluations in Patients With Aromatase Inhibitor-Related Arthralgia.

Dizdar O, Ozçakar L, Malas FU, Harputluoglu H, Bulut N, Aksoy S, Ozisik Y, Altundag K.
Department of Medical Oncology, Hacettepe University Institute of Oncology; and the Department of Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation, Hacettepe University Medical School, Ankara, Turkey.
PURPOSE: To investigate the prevalence of arthralgia in breast cancer patients taking aromatase inhibitors (AIs) and perform a detailed rheumatologic assessment including autoimmune serology, musculoskeletal sonography, and electromyography (EMG) in these patients. PATIENTS AND METHODS: Postmenopausal patients with stage I to III breast cancer who were taking adjuvant AIs were enrolled (n = 92). Patients who were not receiving hormone treatment were included as a control group (n = 28). Musculoskeletal sonography and EMG were applied to the patients and the controls along with markers of autoimmunity. RESULTS: Thirty patients (32.6%) reported to have AI-related new-onset or worsening arthralgia. The most commonly affected joints were knee (70%), wrist (70%), and small joints of the hand (63%). Patients taking AIs had increased tendon thicknesses compared with those who never received AIs (P < .001). Patients with AI-related arthralgia had higher rates of effusion in hand joints/tendons than those without arthralgia (P = .033). More patients with AI-related arthralgia had EMG findings consistent with carpal tunnel syndrome (CTS) than those without arthralgia (P = .024). No significant difference was observed in erythrocyte sedimentation rates, C-reactive protein, antinuclear antibody, antidouble stranded DNA antibody, rheumatoid factor, or anticyclic citrullinated peptide levels between patients and controls or between those with and without arthralgia. CONCLUSION: Patients with AI-related arthralgia often show tenosynovial changes suggesting tenosynovitis, exerting local problems but lacking a systemic inflammatory component. Our finding of increased CTS frequency also supports this hypothesis.
PMID: 19752344
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Old 10-16-2009, 12:39 PM   #2
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Post Re: more on AI joint pains and Carpal tunnel syndrome

Thanks Lani for this post. I had to stop AIs after taking Arimidex and then Aromasin I was too handicapped by joint pain. My onc switched me to Faslodex although I have no metastasis. I have other problems but much easier to live with. I tried to understand why I had such terrible joint pain and this article is a first description if not a complete explanation. It is important because many women discontinue AIs and loose the benefit of an extra protection. I hope there will be more progress. Michka
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Old 10-17-2009, 12:58 PM   #3
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Re: more on AI joint pains and Carpal tunnel syndrome

I keep wondering if a lower dosage would make a difference. I can never understand why they don't dose more drugs on proportionately to body weight, etc.

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Old 10-21-2009, 01:44 PM   #4
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Re: more on AI joint pains and Carpal tunnel syndrome

well, Lani, that was a mouthful!! I had terrible joint pain when I first started on AIs. And now 4 years later the worst of the pain is in my left thumb...which suffers terribly! Small price to pay I guess??!! Thanks for this post!! xo suzan
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