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Old 01-24-2007, 12:12 PM   #1
Linda2
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Recurrence

I have been reading everyone's diagnosis and I am very curious about how your reocurrence was discovered.

Right now I am NED, but I never had symptoms when they found the breast cancer. It was discovered on a mammogram. I have seen where some of you were diagnosed with breast cancer and then maybe 3 years later the cancer showed up in the liver, brain or lungs. How did the doctor find this? I have tumor markers done every 3 months and that is all my onc does. Or do you have symptoms?

After reading one of the posts, I am a little concerned about prognosis with the Her2 gene. My doctor never gave me a prognosis. Someone said 5 to 10 years. Is that the life span with this cancer?

Sorry, but I am freaking out a little bit.
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DX 6/2005
Stage IIA, Grade I
ER/PR +, HER2 +++
Lumpectomy on Left breast 7/2005
No lymph nodes involved
4 cycles of A/C
12 weekly doses Taxol and Herceptin
33 Rads
Herceptin for one year ended 12/2006
Femara for 5 years
NED as of now
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Old 01-24-2007, 12:19 PM   #2
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I was feeling great, except I developed a "dry cough" that would not go away and would not respond to any over the counter things. When I reported this to my Onc, he ordered a chest xray which showed a fluid accumulation. They biopsied when they did my pleuridisis and it showed it was mets.
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Diagnosed 6/30/05
Lumpectomy 7/13/05
Dose Dense A/C x 4
Weekly Taxol + Herceptin x 12
Remainder of year Herceptin Every 3 weeks (completes 9/13/06)
Radiation completed 2/28/06
Currently on Tamoxifen
Dec 06 - Pleural effusion treated with pleurodesis
Now er/pr-, her2++
1/07 started weekly Navelbine plus Herceptin
Discontinued Tamoxifen
4/27/07 CTshowed progression
5/01/07 Began Tykerb/Xeloda + Zometa
5/22/07 Stopped treatment due to great progression
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Old 01-24-2007, 12:30 PM   #3
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Hi Linda. I am Stage I HER2+++, ER+, PR+ and am NED but I will add what I have to say. At diagnosis I was not assertive enough with my onc and was never even told I was HER2 positive, much less given any idea of my level of risk either, sad to say.

If you can, either use the online predictor Adjuvant! or get a medical provider to help you use it. I was told that since Adjuvant! does not include consideration of HER2 positivity in its calculation for risk, that a guess as to the increased risk for us is somewhere around 5% greater than the results you get from using Adjuvant! prediction. (However, the person that told me that might have given me the increased risk "guess" for a Stage I.)
IMHO, HER2's really do benefit from more frequent markers and more frequent imaging, based to some degree depending on stage at diagnosis. Some here use the Bayer test in addition to markers like CA15-3 or CA 27.29, and some have found the CA-125 to be helpful as well even though it is not specifically a marker for bc.

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Old 01-24-2007, 01:02 PM   #4
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Recurrence

Hi Linda: I developed a cough that did not go away for quite a long time, I visited 3 doctors before an x-ray was performed. The x-ray showed a large mass on my rt lung, had a bronchoscopy then the lung needle (no fun, at all), and it was discovered that it was a recurrence from the primary tumor. SO here am almost 4 years ago since the recurrence. Do not "look" for symptoms, be proactive, listen to your body, it will tell you when something wrong is going on.
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1994 - rt brst, .lump, underarm node dissection,chemo+rad 1.2 cms, Grade 3.
28 nodes neg
Er,Pr, Positive HER2 status unknown
2003- Recur to rt lung.July 16 ( B-Day!)
Her2+++ Er,Pr, Negative
2003 - Aug04--Navelbine + Herceptin
2004- 2007--
NED - Herceptin, only
2007 Feb-April Xeloda added to hereceptin
2007-May Back on Navelbine+Herceptin
2008-Feb-Mar 15 Ses Rad to Rt. Lung
2008- Oc 17 Add Tykerb to Herceptin
2009- June-- Discont Tykerb
2009 July 7--Current Taxol + Herceptin
2009 Dec--Discontinued treatment due to progression. Looking into cyberknife.
2010-Aug Accepted to TDM1, no SE, except liver count went up.
2010-2011 September got kicked out of the trial, due to a small spot found on lung.
2011- 2012 September thru early 2013 on Herceptin
2013- March Bone density shows small spot on 5th rib.
2013 - April 4th appt with onc. will post after discussing course of treatment.
2013-March-April Cyber knife to brain and radiation to rib. Chest --base line before chemo-CT-Scan stable for lung issue. CA2729 Normal.
2013 April Herceptin- TDMI
2013 Sept Herceptin + Perjeta . CA2729 within normal range. Brain and Pet scans October 31st. will post results.
2013 October Brain MRI- mixed response. Will see Onc/rad on Halloween.
2013 October/November Brain-MRI nothing new. Repeat MRI next year in May.

2013 December Continue Herceptin and Perjeta. Stable at the moment.
2014 February Brain MRI -clear!
2014 January Added Taxotere to Perjeta+Herceptin.
2014 March Stopped chemo-chest ct-scan next.

2014- March Scans shows tumor's larger, CA2729 higher. Discontinue Herceptin.
2014 April Perjeta+ Halaven
2014 April CA2729 went down 60 points after one cycle. Cough does not want to go away.
2014 June Continue on Perjeta + Halaven-- no more cough. Stable
2014 June Back on Herceptin + abraxane
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Old 01-24-2007, 02:16 PM   #5
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Linda

I am more proactive now that I've had a recurrence...before I just had tumor markers, now I get scanned at least once a year...brain MRI, CT scan and bone scan....the 5-10 years you are referring to is an old stat...pre herceptin for early stage....I did not get Herceptin when diagnosed as I was stage 1 and it wasn't given or recommended...I have been stage 4 for 3 1/2 years, coming up on my 5 year date with diagnosis, and I am living life to the fullest....vigilant, but enjoying every day with a great quality of life....sometimes I have to remind myself...you have cancer, you are allowed to take a day to yourself...i have found over the years working as a nurse, taking care of many cancer patients, that ATTITUDE is a big part of the healing process...when I get a not so good report I pull up my boot straps and fight harder....I plan to be around for along time....I have things to get done!
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Diagnosed at age 49.99999 2/21/2002 via Mammography (Calcifications)
Core Biopsy 2/22/02
L. Mastectomy 2/25/2002
Stage 1, 0.7cm IDC, Node Neg from 19 nodes Her2+++ ER PR Neg
6/2003 Reconstruction W/ Tissue Expander, Silicone Implant
9/2003 Stage IV with Mets to Supraclavicular nodes
9/2003 Began Herceptin every 3 weeks
3/2006 Xeloda 2500mg/Herceptin for recurrence to neck nodes
3/2007 Added back the Xeloda with Herceptin for continued mets to nodes
5/2007 Taken Off Xeloda, no longer working
6/14/07 Taxol/Herceptin/Avastin
3/26 - 5/28/08 Taxol Holiday Whopeeeeeeeee
5/29 2008 Back on Taxol w Herceptin q 2 weeks
4/2009 Progression on Taxol & Paralyzed L Vocal Cord from Nodes Pressing on Nerve
5/2009 Begin Rx with Navelbine/Herceptin
11/09 Progression on Navelbine
Fought for and started Tykerb/Herceptin...nodes are melting!!!!!
2/2010 Back to Avastin/Herceptin
5/2010 Switched to Metronomic Chemo with Herceptin...Cytoxan and Methotrexate
Pericardial Window Surgery to Drain Pericardial Effusion
7/2010 Back to walking a mile a day...YEAH!!!!
9/2010 Nodes are back with a vengence in neck
Qualified for TDM-1 EAP
10/6/10 Begin my miracle drug, TDM-1
Mixed response, shrinking internal nodes, progression skin mets after 3 treatments
12/6/10 Started Halaven (Eribulen) /Herceptin excellent results in 2 treatments
2/2011 I CELEBRATE my 9 YEAR MARK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
7/5/11 begin Gemzar /Herceptin for node progression
2/8/2012 Gemzar stopped, Continue Herceptin
2/20/2012 Begin Tomo Radiation to Neck Nodes
2/21/2012 I CELEBRATE 10 YEARS
5/12/2012 BeganTaxotere/ Herceptin is my next miracle for new node progression
6/28/12 Stopped Taxotere due to pregression, Started Perjeta/Herceptin
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Old 01-24-2007, 04:04 PM   #6
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Thanks for all of your responses. I wish you all the best.
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DX 6/2005
Stage IIA, Grade I
ER/PR +, HER2 +++
Lumpectomy on Left breast 7/2005
No lymph nodes involved
4 cycles of A/C
12 weekly doses Taxol and Herceptin
33 Rads
Herceptin for one year ended 12/2006
Femara for 5 years
NED as of now
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