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02-15-2012, 07:12 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2012
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My Mom-Brain, Lungs, Bone
In 2007 my mom was diagnosed with HER2+ stage 2a. She had a lumpectomy, radiation and chemo. In July 2011 we found out she was stage 4 with mets in her lungs, bones and brain. She had WBRT, navelbine and tykerb (made her really sick and had to stop), then taxotere and Herceptin. In December she went in for what was supposed to be a routine hernia laprascopy. She developed a fistula and almost died. She was on TPN and in the hospital for 7 weeks. She hasnt been able to have chemo for almost 10 weeks becuase she still has an open wound in her abdomen from the surgery. In the last few days we have found that the spot on the lung has increased and lymph nodes are now involved. Today we found there are new spots in her cerebellum and front lobe. They are considering WBRT again or Gamma Knife. In the last week she has lost all control of her right leg probably due to nerve damage from the brain or spine (waiting on spine MRI results). Other than the leg, she feels okay. Our family is terrfied and needs stories of encouragement. Has anyone had gamma knife in the cerebellum? Anyone done WBRT more than one? I need help! I am lost!
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02-16-2012, 03:05 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: "Love never fails."
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Re: My Mom-Brain, Lungs, Bone
Clin Transl Oncol. 2012 Jan;14(1):43-9.
Predicting compliance and survival in palliative whole-brain radiotherapy for brain metastases.
Sabater S, Mur E, Müller K, Arenas M.
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Department of Radiation Oncology, Complejo Hospitalario Universitario, Albacete, Spain.
Abstract
Objective Brain radiotherapy is the main treatment for patients with brain metastases but its goal is just symptom control. Our aim was to study if different performance tools, used in geriatric practice, could improve patient selection for decision-making in the palliative brain radiotherapy setting. Patients and methods Data from 61 consecutive patients were analysed. In addition to Karnofsky Performance Status (KPS) their physical activity was assessed by means of the activity of daily living (ADL) and instrumental ADL (IADL) scales. A neurocognitive evaluation was performed with the Pfeiffer Short Portable Mental Status Questionnaire (SPMSQ) and with the Mini-Mental Status Exam (MMSE). Radiotherapy compliance and short survival were the endpoints of the study. Results High rates of cognitive impairment were found by both neurocognitive tools (Pfeiffer: 19.7% of patients; MMSE: 30%). Dependence was also highly prevalent, either measured by the ADL (50.8%) or by the IADL (43.3%). Nearly one third (27.9%) of patients died soon after radiotherapy evaluation. Longer survival was related to female, younger than 60 years, breast cancer primary tumour, steroid response, RPA class, and higher performance and neurocognitive score tools. A premature death was associated with neurocognitive tools, IADL and longer interval from brain metastatic diagnosis to radiotherapy. Twenty-three percent of patients were not able to finish the WBRT course due to clinical deterioration. The only variable related to compliance was a low MMSE score. Conclusions Results suggest that the geriatric tools analysed could offer information on brain palliative radiotherapy complementary to that offered by the more usual tools. It will be interesting to study if our data could be extrapolated to the general palliative oncological field.
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Jackie07
http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2011/06/doctors-letter-patient-newly-diagnosed-cancer.html
http://www.asco.org/ASCOv2/MultiMedi...=114&trackID=2
NICU 4.4 LB
Erythema Nodosum 85
Life-long Central Neurocytoma 4x5x6.5 cm 23 hrs 62090 semi-coma 10 d PT OT ST 30 d
3 Infertility tmts 99 > 3 u. fibroids > Pills
CN 3 GKRS 52301
IDC 1.2 cm Her2 +++ ER 5% R. Lmptmy SLNB+1 71703 6 FEC 33 R Tamoxifen
Recc IIB 2.5 cm Bi-L Mast 61407 2/9 nds PET
6 TCH Cellulitis - Lymphedema - compression sleeve & glove
H w x 4 MUGA 51 D, J 49 M
Diastasis recti
Tamoxifen B. scan
Irrtbl bowel 1'09
Colonoscopy 313
BRCA1 V1247I
hptc hemangioma
Vertigo
GI - > yogurt
hysterectomy/oophorectomy 011410
Exemestane 25 mg tab 102912 ~ 101016 stopped due to r. hip/l.thigh pain after long walk
DEXA 1/13
1-2016 lesions in liver largest 9mm & 1.3 cm onco. says not cancer.
3-11 Appendectomy - visually O.K., a lot of puss. Final path result - not cancer.
Start Vitamin D3 and Calcium supplement (600mg x2)
10-10 Stopped Exemestane due to r. hip/l.thigh pain OKed by Onco 11-08-2016
7-23-2018 9 mm groundglass nodule within the right lower lobe with indolent behavior. Due to possible adenocarcinoma, Recommend annual surveilence.
7-10-2019 CT to check lung nodule.
1-10-2020 8mm stable nodule on R Lung, two 6mm new ones on L Lung, a possible lymph node involvement in inter fissule.
"I WANT TO BE AN OUTRAGEOUS OLD WOMAN WHO NEVER GETS CALLED AN OLD LADY. I WANT TO GET SHARP EDGED & EARTH COLORED, TILL I FADE AWAY FROM PURE JOY." Irene from Tampa
Advocacy is a passion .. not a pastime - Joe
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02-16-2012, 03:18 AM
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Re: My Mom-Brain, Lungs, Bone
Couldn't find anything published after 2008:
J Neurooncol. 2008 Jul;88(3):331-7. Epub 2008 Apr 8.
Metastases to the cerebellum. Results and prognostic factors in a consecutive series of 44 operated patients.
Pompili A, Carapella CM, Cattani F, Fabi A, Giannarelli D, Giovannetti M, Mirri A, Occhipinti E, Telera S, Vidiri A, Pace A.
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Division of Neurosurgery, Regina Elena National Cancer Institute, Via Elio Chianesi 53, Rome, Italy. pompili@ifo.it
Abstract
BACKGROUND:
Recent reports on large number of patients with brain metastases report that Whole Brain Radiotherapy (WBRT) and Radiosurgery (RS) should be the treatments of choice, particularly in multiple lesions cases. Among the prognostic factors, the cerebellar location was never considered, although this results in hydrocephalus, brain stem compression, ataxia, intracranial hypertension.
MATERIALS AND METHODS:
We evaluated 44 patients with cerebellar metastases operated over 6 years. Primary lesions were: Lung (15), Breast (12), Gastrointestinal (9), Gut (3), Ovary (2), Melanoma (1), Salivary gland carcinoma (1), Unknown (1). Lesions were <3 cm in 11 cases, > or =3 cm in 33. Average KPS scoring at admission was 69.9. Twenty nine scored > or =70, 15 < 70.
RESULTS:
Two patients died for surgical complications, 2 died within 1 months for other causes, 2 were lost to follow up. Eight had postoperative hematoma requiring reoperation, 1 had an occipital infarction. Average KPS scoring at discharge was 76.4, P < 0.002. Those patients that had complications scored less, the difference is significant (P < 0.008). Median survival was 8 months, 1 year survival rate 29.9%. Survival was correlated with either admission or discharge KPS (> or =70 vs. <70): P = 0.05 and P = 0.0001 respectively. None of the other parameters considered reached statistical significance.
CONCLUSIONS:
Open microneurosurgery is probably still the most effective therapy in improving survival and KPS in patients with large cerebellar metastases, given that the proper surgical technique is used and that complications do not occur. Specific data on cerebellar metastases as an independent subgroup are needed from radiosurgical series.
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Jackie07
http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2011/06/doctors-letter-patient-newly-diagnosed-cancer.html
http://www.asco.org/ASCOv2/MultiMedi...=114&trackID=2
NICU 4.4 LB
Erythema Nodosum 85
Life-long Central Neurocytoma 4x5x6.5 cm 23 hrs 62090 semi-coma 10 d PT OT ST 30 d
3 Infertility tmts 99 > 3 u. fibroids > Pills
CN 3 GKRS 52301
IDC 1.2 cm Her2 +++ ER 5% R. Lmptmy SLNB+1 71703 6 FEC 33 R Tamoxifen
Recc IIB 2.5 cm Bi-L Mast 61407 2/9 nds PET
6 TCH Cellulitis - Lymphedema - compression sleeve & glove
H w x 4 MUGA 51 D, J 49 M
Diastasis recti
Tamoxifen B. scan
Irrtbl bowel 1'09
Colonoscopy 313
BRCA1 V1247I
hptc hemangioma
Vertigo
GI - > yogurt
hysterectomy/oophorectomy 011410
Exemestane 25 mg tab 102912 ~ 101016 stopped due to r. hip/l.thigh pain after long walk
DEXA 1/13
1-2016 lesions in liver largest 9mm & 1.3 cm onco. says not cancer.
3-11 Appendectomy - visually O.K., a lot of puss. Final path result - not cancer.
Start Vitamin D3 and Calcium supplement (600mg x2)
10-10 Stopped Exemestane due to r. hip/l.thigh pain OKed by Onco 11-08-2016
7-23-2018 9 mm groundglass nodule within the right lower lobe with indolent behavior. Due to possible adenocarcinoma, Recommend annual surveilence.
7-10-2019 CT to check lung nodule.
1-10-2020 8mm stable nodule on R Lung, two 6mm new ones on L Lung, a possible lymph node involvement in inter fissule.
"I WANT TO BE AN OUTRAGEOUS OLD WOMAN WHO NEVER GETS CALLED AN OLD LADY. I WANT TO GET SHARP EDGED & EARTH COLORED, TILL I FADE AWAY FROM PURE JOY." Irene from Tampa
Advocacy is a passion .. not a pastime - Joe
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02-16-2012, 11:50 AM
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Re: My Mom-Brain, Lungs, Bone
I don't know anything about brain radiation. I just wanted to say I am sorry to hear about your Mom.
I wonder if some physical therapy might help her leg.
Keep strong. Stay positive. Take care.
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02-24-2012, 02:02 PM
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Re: My Mom-Brain, Lungs, Bone
I am so sorry you and your mom are going through this. Keep the faith.
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03-04-2012, 07:41 AM
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Location: Denver, CO
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Re: My Mom-Brain, Lungs, Bone
I don't have experience with brain mets, but I want to join in telling you I'm so sorry for you and your family.
Cancer sucks.
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4/19/11 Diagnosed invasive ductal carcinoma in left breast; 2.3 cm tumor, 1 axillary lymph node, weakly ER+, HER2+++
4/29/11 CT scan shows suspicious lesions on liver and lungs
5/17/11 liver biopsy
5/24/11 liver met confirmed--Stage IV at diagnosis
5/27/11 Begin weekly Taxol & Herceptin for 3 months (standard of care at the time of my DX)
7/18/11 Switch to weekly Abraxane & Herceptin due to Taxol allergy
8/29/11 CT scan shows no new lesions & old lesions shrinking
9/27/11 Finish Abraxane. Start Herceptin every 3 weeks. Begin taking Arimidex
10/17/11--Brain MRI--No Brain mets
12/5/11 PET scan--Almost NED
5/15/12 PET scan shows progression-breast/chest/spine (one vertebra)
5/22/12 Stop taking Arimidex; stay on Herceptin
6/11/12 Started Tykerb and Herceptin on clinical trial (w/no chemo)
9/24/12 CT scan--No new mets. Everything stable.
3/11/13 CT Scan--two small new possible mets and odd looking area in left lung getting larger.
4/2/13--Biopsy of suspicious area in lower left lung. Mets to lung confirmed.
4/30/13 Begin Kadcyla/TDM-1
8/16/13 PET scan "mixed," with some areas of increased uptake, but also some definite improvement, so I'll stay on TDM-1/Kadcyla.
11/11/13 Finally get hormone receptor results from lung biopsy of 4/2/13. My cancer is no longer ER positive.
11/13/13 PET scan mixed results again. We're calling it "stable." Problems breathing on exertion.
2/18/14 PET scan shows a new lesion and newly active lymph node in chest, other progression. Bye bye TDM-1.
2/28/14 Begin Herceptin/Perjeta every 3 weeks.
6/8/14 PET "mixed," with no new lesions, and everything but lower lungs improving. My breathing is better.
8/18/14 PET "mixed" again. Upper lungs & one spine met stable, lower lungs less FDG avid, original tumor more avid, one lymph node in mediastinum more avid.
9/1/14 Begin taking Xeloda one week on, one week off. Will also stay on Herceptin and Perjeta every three weeks.
12/11/14 PET Scan--no new lesions, and everything looks better than it did.
3/20/15 PET Scan--no new lesions, but lower lung lesions larger and a bit more avid.
4/13/15 Increasing Xeloda dose to 10 days on, one week off.
7/1/15 Scan "mixed" again, but suggests continuing progression. Stop Xeloda. Substitute Abraxane every 3 weeks starting 7/13.
10/28/15 PET scan shows dramatic improvement everywhere. All lesions except lower lungs have resolved; lower lungs noticeably improved.
12/18/15 Last Abraxane. Continue on Herceptin and Perjeta alone beginning 1/8/16.
1/27/16 PET scan shows cancer is stable.
5/11/16 PET scan shows uptake in some areas that were resolved on the last two scans.
6/3/16 Begin Kadcyla and Tykerb combination
6/5 - 6/23 Horrible diarrhea from K&T together. Got pneumonia.
7/15/16 Begin Kadcyla only every 3 weeks.
9/6/16 Begin radiation therapy on right lung lesion that caused the pneumonia.
10/3/16 Last of 12 radiation treatments to right lung.
11/4/16 Huffing and puffing, low O2, high heart rate, on tiniest bit of exertion. Diagnosed as radiation pneumonitis. Treated with Prednisone.
11/11/16 PET scan shows significant improvement to radiated part of right lung BUT a bunch of new lung lesions, and the bone met is getting worse.
11/22/16 Begin Eribulin and Herceptin. H every 3 weeks. E two weeks on, one week off.
3/6/17 Scan shows progression in lungs. Bone met a little better.
3/23/17 Lung biopsy. Tumor sampled is ER-, PR+ (5%), HER2+++. Getting Herceptin and Perjeta as a maintenance treatment.
5/31/17 Port placement
6/1/17 Start Navelbine & Tykerb
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03-05-2012, 07:24 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Ireland
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Re: My Mom-Brain, Lungs, Bone
I find out tomorrow if gamma knife worked for single brain met. Really hope so. Have no symptons but am on steroid so dont know if symptons being masked. Tomorrow wil tell for sure.
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Delaney, dx 2008 lumpectomy,mastectomy,a/c,paxitaxol, tyverb 1 yr.
dx 2010 mets lymph nodes, skin, lung. start taxotere/herceptin.
Stopped taxtere/herceptin, now on tyverb/xeloda.
Lung mets shrinking.
Back on Herceptin with T/X. Partial response.
Skin mets progressing. Radiation scheduled mid february 2011.
Spot found on hip - radiation to hip beginning mid February 2011.
Now trying Gemzar/Tyverb/Herceptin and Zometa.
CT scan Feb 2011 - lung clear!
Brain mets (specks) - radiation mid Feb.
Brain Scan June'11 - Clear
CT Scan June'11 - Good - skin met active - watch and wait.
Surgery to remove skin met. Surgery to back 2012, four titanium rods inserted. Skin mets reappear. On Navelbine, not working. 4 week washout, start Myocet for skin and lung mets August 2012. Brain scan clear despte intermittent blurry vision (something hiding? Am suspicious but hopeful. )On we go, glad to be here.
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03-06-2012, 02:36 PM
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Location: Georgia
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Re: My Mom-Brain, Lungs, Bone
Delaney,
Please let us know the results. I am hoping you get a good report.
Amelia
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03-07-2012, 10:38 AM
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Location: Ireland
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Re: My Mom-Brain, Lungs, Bone
Amelia, results not as good as I had hoped. A new spot showed up, small but still there and we will do gamma on that. Also skin more active than it was so new weekly chemo will be started as soon as I finish rads to my back. I have just decided to accept this and move on , hope for the best. I feel and look well. Its out of my control and some people are facing worse so onwards we go.
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Delaney, dx 2008 lumpectomy,mastectomy,a/c,paxitaxol, tyverb 1 yr.
dx 2010 mets lymph nodes, skin, lung. start taxotere/herceptin.
Stopped taxtere/herceptin, now on tyverb/xeloda.
Lung mets shrinking.
Back on Herceptin with T/X. Partial response.
Skin mets progressing. Radiation scheduled mid february 2011.
Spot found on hip - radiation to hip beginning mid February 2011.
Now trying Gemzar/Tyverb/Herceptin and Zometa.
CT scan Feb 2011 - lung clear!
Brain mets (specks) - radiation mid Feb.
Brain Scan June'11 - Clear
CT Scan June'11 - Good - skin met active - watch and wait.
Surgery to remove skin met. Surgery to back 2012, four titanium rods inserted. Skin mets reappear. On Navelbine, not working. 4 week washout, start Myocet for skin and lung mets August 2012. Brain scan clear despte intermittent blurry vision (something hiding? Am suspicious but hopeful. )On we go, glad to be here.
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04-09-2012, 06:21 AM
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Location: Georgia
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Re: My Mom-Brain, Lungs, Bone
Delaney,
Glad to hear from you. Let us know how you are doing. You sound very positive. Are you still taking the steroids?
Amelia
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