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Old 05-31-2011, 01:09 AM   #1
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Need help from TDM 1 girls

Dear all
I am getting ready in case Herceptin and Navelbine doesnt' work. I don't want to go through other toxic chemos before trying TDM1. I am suffering too much from neuropathic problems;
But in my case it is complicated. Herceptin and chemo never worked for me. I was ER+90% PR+20% at diagnosis 4,5 years ago then in December after laparoscopy ER+20% and PR0 then in March after resection 70%ER+ and 0%PR-???? Here are my questions:
1) How often is TDM1 given? and for how long? For ever?
2) I am american but live in France. Does anyone know of a European trial?
3) I do not want a TDM1 trial against Taxol and Herceptin. I had that in neoadjuvant setting and it did not work a all
If necessary I can live in the States for some time although I will be broke. But who cares.
Any European friends with some ideas?
Is there anyplace I can call at Genetech to discuss this?
I am sorry for these questions because it is clear in my head but the English is not as precise as I would like it to.
Thank you for your help.
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Old 05-31-2011, 07:58 AM   #2
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Re: Need help from TDM 1 girls

Michka, surely there are trials in Europe. Your oncologist should know how to access a database for them. I gave it a try but have no idea what is the best resource.

A quick googling for a trial database in Europe brings up so many hits it's hard to know what's legit but this one seemed current, and was written up just in March in some journal:
https://www.clinicaltrialsregister.eu/

I searched it for tdm1 breast cancer and got two hits -- there is apparently a phase IB/II trial in France, for example, with pertuzumab (no taxane listed). In those hits, they listed tdm1 as "trastuzumab-mcc-dm1", so I searched with that and got more, with lapatinib, with chemo of choice, etc:

wyciwyg://24/https://www.clinicaltri...eu/ctr-search/

Can you let us know what you find out? Because we want to know how you're doing, and because it might be important information for someone else in Europe, looking for trials.

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Old 05-31-2011, 08:16 AM   #3
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Re: Need help from TDM 1 girls

Michka, here's a link to all T-DM1 trials, contact information and their current status.
http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?term=t-dm1

Although "weekly" dosing has been looked at, Genentech currently doses on a three week schedule. As long as drug remains efficacious, even after completing trial, Genentech will continue to provide for drug.
Don't rule out any of the trials because passed experience with trastuzumab because T-DM1 has functioned in patients that were non-sensitive to Herceptin.
Contacting Genentech directly might give you best idea as to how to proceed.
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Old 05-31-2011, 10:40 AM   #4
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Re: Need help from TDM 1 girls

Very cool, Schooner. I assumed that clinicaltrials.gov would only have US trials. Do you think it includes trials that are exclusively outside the US, or only those that are both in this country AND in other locations?

Michka, try clicking on the "results on map" tab near the top -- then it's easy to see how many trials are in each country, and by clicking on the country, you'll get a country-specific list.

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Old 05-31-2011, 11:38 AM   #5
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Debbie, I've seen entries for USA only, overseas only or both; link is an example with agent sar3419, 1st entry is stateside, 2nd entry is in France only, etc.
http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?term=sar3419
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Old 06-07-2011, 11:30 PM   #6
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Re: Need help from TDM 1 girls

Micha,

I don't know directly about European, T-DM1 trials, but you may want to contact Giuseppi Viale, M.D., European Institute of Oncology, University of Milan, Italy. He's involved in breast cancer HER2 research and speaks English. I'll PM his contact information.

I hope you're recovering well from your surgery and feeling better, and it's great that you're looking ahead.

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Old 06-08-2011, 09:50 AM   #7
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Re: Need help from TDM 1 girls

Here's the link to the US 'compassionate use' arm of TDM1. I would move swiftly, though. You never know when this might close to accrual. http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/sh...%2F2010&rank=1

Have you tried Tykerb yet? Either with Xeloda or w/ Herceptin?
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JULY 2012 - 7 yr anniversary stage IV (of 50...)

Nov'03~ dX stage 2B
Dec'03~
Rt side mastectomy, Her2+, ER/PR+, 10 nodes out, one node positive
Jan'04~
Taxotere/Adria/Cytoxan x 6, NED, no Rads, Tamox. 1 year, Arimadex 3 mo., NED 14 mo.
Sept'05~
micro mets lungs/chest nodes/underarm node, Switched to Aromasin, T/C/H x 7, NED 6 months - Herceptin only
Aug'06~
micro mets chest nodes, & bone spot @ C3 neck, Added Taxol to Herceptin
Feb'07~ Genetic testing, BRCA 1&2 neg

Apr'07~
MRI - two 9mm brain mets & 5 punctates, new left chest met, & small increase of bone spot C3 neck, Stopped Aromasin
May'07~
Started Tykerb/Xeloda, no WBR for now
June'07~
MRI - stable brain mets, no new mets, 9mm spots less enhanced, CA15.3 down 45.5 to 9.3 in 10 wks, Ty/Xel working magic!
Aug'07~
MRI - brain mets shrunk half, NO NEW BRAIN METS!!, TMs stable @ 9.2
Oct'07~
PET/CT & MRI show NED
Apr'08~
scans still show NED in the head, small bone spot on right iliac crest (rear pelvic bone)
Sept'08~
MRI shows activity in brain mets, completed 5 fractions/5 consecutive days of IMRT to zap the pesky buggers
Oct'08~
dropped Xeloda, switched to tri-weekly Herceptin in combo with Tykerb, extend to tri-monthly Zometa infusion
Dec'08~
Brain MRI- 4 spots reduced to punctate size, large spot shrunk by 3mm, CT of torso clear/pelvis spot stable
June'09~
new 3-4mm left cerrebellar spot zapped with IMRT targeted rads
Sept'09~
new 6mm & 1 cm spots in pituitary/optic chiasm area. Rx= 25 days of 3D conformal fractionated targeted IMRT to the tumors.
Oct'09~
25 days of low dose 3D conformal fractionated targeted IMRT to the bone mets spot on rt. iliac crest that have been watching for 2 years. Added daily Aromasin back into treatment regimen.
Apr'10~ Brain MRI clear! But, see new small spot on adrenal gland. Change from Aromasin back to Tamoxifen.
June'10~ Tumor markers (CA15.3) dropped from 37 to 23 after one month on Tamoxifen. Continue to monitor adrenal gland spot. Remain on Tykerb/Herceptin/Tamoxifen.
Nov'10~ Radiate positive mediastinal node that was pressing on recurrent laryngeal nerve, causing paralyzed larynx and a funny voice.
Jan'11~ MRI shows possible activity or perhaps just scar tissue/necrotic increase on 3 previously treated brain spots and a pituitary spot. 5 days of IMRT on 4 spots.
Feb'11~ Enrolled in T-DM1 EAP in Denver, first treatment March 25, 2011.
Mar'11~ Finally started T-DM1 EAP in Denver at Rocky Mountain Cancer Center/Rose on Mar. 25... hallelujah.

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