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Old 06-21-2010, 06:40 AM   #1
tlwelch
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Got a Xeloda administration question

Hi all still relatively new here so if this post should be in some other location let me know.

So I'm in my very first cycle of Tykerb/Xeloda since being diagnosed with the recurrence. I have about a week and a half of experience under my belt so far. I take 1250 of the Tykerb and 3500 of the Xeloda daily. Overall symptoms have been mild, but definitely have presented themselves. All the standards the gambit of gastrointestinal issues, the dry irritation and sensitivity to temperature in the hands and feet. So far they are tolerable especially if I use the udderly smooth cream (which I use daily) or take immodium (which I've only had to do once).

My question is actually about the Xeloda administration. I planned to ask my onc when I see him for my first follow-up appointment on July 1. But then I remembered I had a whole group of very experienced people to ask questions of, so I came here first.

I was told take the Xeloda 30 minutes after eating. Sounds simple. But I read all the literature provided by Roche, the say "within 30 minutes after the end of the meal." To me that would imply I could take the meds at the end of the meal without delay. So I'm curious, is some wait time required, or is anytime in the 30 minute window (including immediately at the end meal) an acceptable time to take the meds?

I ask primarily, because at this point I've been getting my self engaged in something to run out my thirty minutes and occasionally get so distracted that it's an hour before I remember. I know if I took the meds right at the end of the meal I'd be less likely to get distracted, wait too long, or possibly even forget at some point.

Any help input or advise would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Toni
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Age 40, Dx 2/09 with locally advanced Left breast IDC, grade 3, ER-, PR-, Her2+2, stage 3b tumor >5cm, lymph node involvement in interior chest wall, and axillary nodes
March to June 2009 Dose Dense Chemo (March and April 4x Adriamycin/Cytoxan, May and June 4xTaxol/Herceptin) Herceptin continued every 3 weeks through April 2010
July 2009 double mastectomy, right prophylactic, temporary expanders placed for delayed reconstruction
Oct 2009 Rt expander removed due to infection
Nov to December 2009 Radiation tx
April 2010 PET/CT shows active disease in interior chest wall, new growth in breast adjacent to expander
May 2010 biopsy confirms active ER-/PR-/Her2+2 cancer stage 3c
May 2010 left expander removed so as not to interfere with long-term diagnostic follow-up while being treated
June 2010 finished review of treatment options and second opinion appointments
June 2010 start Tykerb/Xeloda
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Old 06-21-2010, 03:55 PM   #2
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Re: Got a Xeloda administration question

I usually took mine right at the end of breakfast and right at the end of dinner. Sometimes if I forgot to take it within that 30 minutes, I would eat a small snack/maybe toast and glass of milk and then take it. You are correct that it is anytime from the end of the meal to within about 30 min after...
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NOV 2012 - 9 yr anniversary
JULY 2012 - 7 yr anniversary stage IV (of 50...)

Nov'03~ dX stage 2B
Dec'03~
Rt side mastectomy, Her2+, ER/PR+, 10 nodes out, one node positive
Jan'04~
Taxotere/Adria/Cytoxan x 6, NED, no Rads, Tamox. 1 year, Arimadex 3 mo., NED 14 mo.
Sept'05~
micro mets lungs/chest nodes/underarm node, Switched to Aromasin, T/C/H x 7, NED 6 months - Herceptin only
Aug'06~
micro mets chest nodes, & bone spot @ C3 neck, Added Taxol to Herceptin
Feb'07~ Genetic testing, BRCA 1&2 neg

Apr'07~
MRI - two 9mm brain mets & 5 punctates, new left chest met, & small increase of bone spot C3 neck, Stopped Aromasin
May'07~
Started Tykerb/Xeloda, no WBR for now
June'07~
MRI - stable brain mets, no new mets, 9mm spots less enhanced, CA15.3 down 45.5 to 9.3 in 10 wks, Ty/Xel working magic!
Aug'07~
MRI - brain mets shrunk half, NO NEW BRAIN METS!!, TMs stable @ 9.2
Oct'07~
PET/CT & MRI show NED
Apr'08~
scans still show NED in the head, small bone spot on right iliac crest (rear pelvic bone)
Sept'08~
MRI shows activity in brain mets, completed 5 fractions/5 consecutive days of IMRT to zap the pesky buggers
Oct'08~
dropped Xeloda, switched to tri-weekly Herceptin in combo with Tykerb, extend to tri-monthly Zometa infusion
Dec'08~
Brain MRI- 4 spots reduced to punctate size, large spot shrunk by 3mm, CT of torso clear/pelvis spot stable
June'09~
new 3-4mm left cerrebellar spot zapped with IMRT targeted rads
Sept'09~
new 6mm & 1 cm spots in pituitary/optic chiasm area. Rx= 25 days of 3D conformal fractionated targeted IMRT to the tumors.
Oct'09~
25 days of low dose 3D conformal fractionated targeted IMRT to the bone mets spot on rt. iliac crest that have been watching for 2 years. Added daily Aromasin back into treatment regimen.
Apr'10~ Brain MRI clear! But, see new small spot on adrenal gland. Change from Aromasin back to Tamoxifen.
June'10~ Tumor markers (CA15.3) dropped from 37 to 23 after one month on Tamoxifen. Continue to monitor adrenal gland spot. Remain on Tykerb/Herceptin/Tamoxifen.
Nov'10~ Radiate positive mediastinal node that was pressing on recurrent laryngeal nerve, causing paralyzed larynx and a funny voice.
Jan'11~ MRI shows possible activity or perhaps just scar tissue/necrotic increase on 3 previously treated brain spots and a pituitary spot. 5 days of IMRT on 4 spots.
Feb'11~ Enrolled in T-DM1 EAP in Denver, first treatment March 25, 2011.
Mar'11~ Finally started T-DM1 EAP in Denver at Rocky Mountain Cancer Center/Rose on Mar. 25... hallelujah.

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Old 06-21-2010, 04:24 PM   #3
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Re: Got a Xeloda administration question

My pattern on taking xeloda was much the same as Brenda. Ceesun
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Old 06-21-2010, 05:43 PM   #4
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Re: Got a Xeloda administration question

Brenda and Ceesun, Thanks so much for the info. It does make it easier to handle the wacky world of maintenance chemo knowing that I have another place to go and ask questions.

Out of curiosity, what happens if one waits too long, or takes the xeloda without food? Does it just intensify the symptoms or does something else entirely new happen?
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Age 40, Dx 2/09 with locally advanced Left breast IDC, grade 3, ER-, PR-, Her2+2, stage 3b tumor >5cm, lymph node involvement in interior chest wall, and axillary nodes
March to June 2009 Dose Dense Chemo (March and April 4x Adriamycin/Cytoxan, May and June 4xTaxol/Herceptin) Herceptin continued every 3 weeks through April 2010
July 2009 double mastectomy, right prophylactic, temporary expanders placed for delayed reconstruction
Oct 2009 Rt expander removed due to infection
Nov to December 2009 Radiation tx
April 2010 PET/CT shows active disease in interior chest wall, new growth in breast adjacent to expander
May 2010 biopsy confirms active ER-/PR-/Her2+2 cancer stage 3c
May 2010 left expander removed so as not to interfere with long-term diagnostic follow-up while being treated
June 2010 finished review of treatment options and second opinion appointments
June 2010 start Tykerb/Xeloda
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Old 06-21-2010, 07:19 PM   #5
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Re: Got a Xeloda administration question

There was the occasion that I took it without a meal, and I did fine, but I am guessing it's supposed to be taken with food to assist the proper absorption of it.

Also, I take my Tykerb at bedtime instead of in the AM.
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NOV 2012 - 9 yr anniversary
JULY 2012 - 7 yr anniversary stage IV (of 50...)

Nov'03~ dX stage 2B
Dec'03~
Rt side mastectomy, Her2+, ER/PR+, 10 nodes out, one node positive
Jan'04~
Taxotere/Adria/Cytoxan x 6, NED, no Rads, Tamox. 1 year, Arimadex 3 mo., NED 14 mo.
Sept'05~
micro mets lungs/chest nodes/underarm node, Switched to Aromasin, T/C/H x 7, NED 6 months - Herceptin only
Aug'06~
micro mets chest nodes, & bone spot @ C3 neck, Added Taxol to Herceptin
Feb'07~ Genetic testing, BRCA 1&2 neg

Apr'07~
MRI - two 9mm brain mets & 5 punctates, new left chest met, & small increase of bone spot C3 neck, Stopped Aromasin
May'07~
Started Tykerb/Xeloda, no WBR for now
June'07~
MRI - stable brain mets, no new mets, 9mm spots less enhanced, CA15.3 down 45.5 to 9.3 in 10 wks, Ty/Xel working magic!
Aug'07~
MRI - brain mets shrunk half, NO NEW BRAIN METS!!, TMs stable @ 9.2
Oct'07~
PET/CT & MRI show NED
Apr'08~
scans still show NED in the head, small bone spot on right iliac crest (rear pelvic bone)
Sept'08~
MRI shows activity in brain mets, completed 5 fractions/5 consecutive days of IMRT to zap the pesky buggers
Oct'08~
dropped Xeloda, switched to tri-weekly Herceptin in combo with Tykerb, extend to tri-monthly Zometa infusion
Dec'08~
Brain MRI- 4 spots reduced to punctate size, large spot shrunk by 3mm, CT of torso clear/pelvis spot stable
June'09~
new 3-4mm left cerrebellar spot zapped with IMRT targeted rads
Sept'09~
new 6mm & 1 cm spots in pituitary/optic chiasm area. Rx= 25 days of 3D conformal fractionated targeted IMRT to the tumors.
Oct'09~
25 days of low dose 3D conformal fractionated targeted IMRT to the bone mets spot on rt. iliac crest that have been watching for 2 years. Added daily Aromasin back into treatment regimen.
Apr'10~ Brain MRI clear! But, see new small spot on adrenal gland. Change from Aromasin back to Tamoxifen.
June'10~ Tumor markers (CA15.3) dropped from 37 to 23 after one month on Tamoxifen. Continue to monitor adrenal gland spot. Remain on Tykerb/Herceptin/Tamoxifen.
Nov'10~ Radiate positive mediastinal node that was pressing on recurrent laryngeal nerve, causing paralyzed larynx and a funny voice.
Jan'11~ MRI shows possible activity or perhaps just scar tissue/necrotic increase on 3 previously treated brain spots and a pituitary spot. 5 days of IMRT on 4 spots.
Feb'11~ Enrolled in T-DM1 EAP in Denver, first treatment March 25, 2011.
Mar'11~ Finally started T-DM1 EAP in Denver at Rocky Mountain Cancer Center/Rose on Mar. 25... hallelujah.

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Old 06-22-2010, 04:16 AM   #6
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Re: Got a Xeloda administration question

My onc. said it was important to take the tykerb on an empty stomach to aid absorption. I take it when I first wake up since I never eat anything for an hour or so anyway.

My onc. also said it was less important on the timing for xeloda to eat after a meal. Maybe the timing has less to do with efficacy and more to do with comfort. So I take one dose in the a.m. and one in the p.m. But I really don't match it to my meal pattern - I take it when I remember - it could be before or after I eat. I have had no ill gastro effects if I don't happen to take it after a meal.
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Old 06-27-2010, 03:40 PM   #7
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Re: Got a Xeloda administration question

Again thanks to all for the information. Very helpful and much appreciated. Toni
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Age 40, Dx 2/09 with locally advanced Left breast IDC, grade 3, ER-, PR-, Her2+2, stage 3b tumor >5cm, lymph node involvement in interior chest wall, and axillary nodes
March to June 2009 Dose Dense Chemo (March and April 4x Adriamycin/Cytoxan, May and June 4xTaxol/Herceptin) Herceptin continued every 3 weeks through April 2010
July 2009 double mastectomy, right prophylactic, temporary expanders placed for delayed reconstruction
Oct 2009 Rt expander removed due to infection
Nov to December 2009 Radiation tx
April 2010 PET/CT shows active disease in interior chest wall, new growth in breast adjacent to expander
May 2010 biopsy confirms active ER-/PR-/Her2+2 cancer stage 3c
May 2010 left expander removed so as not to interfere with long-term diagnostic follow-up while being treated
June 2010 finished review of treatment options and second opinion appointments
June 2010 start Tykerb/Xeloda
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Old 06-27-2010, 04:16 PM   #8
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Re: Got a Xeloda administration question

I would get up in the am and take my Ty with coffee, then workout, then an hour later or whenever I was done, I took the X with breakfast. Then took X with dinner. I never waited to take it after eating, I took at the same time so I would not forget. Hope this helps!
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11/06 bilateral mastectomy
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1/07 Finished Rad-started H, weekly for one year.
1/08. Finished H, scan showed activity in nodes, Doc says 'not to worry about it' and sends me on my way.
7/08 Scan shows numerous involvement in armpit, also large active nodes in supr. clav.
Doctor refused to give me HER2 meds.
8/08 fired doctor, found another. Started Tykerb/Xeloda. After one round, nodes are shrunk and normal sized!
12/08 NED continue Ty/X
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Dropping X, continue Tykerb
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