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Old 06-02-2012, 02:43 AM   #1
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First scan TDM1

Hello Everyone.
I had my first scan after 2 cycles of TDM1. The 5 or 6 tumors in the lungs shrunk one or two mm and one 4mm. The largest tumor is now 11mm. The one tumor in the liver shrunk 3mm and is now 14mm. The 3 nodes in my abdomen and in my thorax shrunk between 3 and 5mm. So the good news is that there is regression of all tumors. I must admit however I was hoping for more. I know, I know, first I am lucky to be in the trial, then for some, TDM1 does not work at all. But you know how we are! We want to get rid of these stupid mets! I think I will really know in 6 weeks, with my next scan, if the tumors continue to shrink or if it just stops there.
The 2 first infusions were a little difficult although nothing to do with hard chemos of course!. I had nausea the first week of the cycle but the worse comes on the second week. I had intense fatigue and pain in my chest. It did not allow me to stay up more than a couple of days. The doctors said they did not know what it was since my heart is fine. It's hard to believe. When I say "fatigue" it is because I have no other word. In fact it was like missing red blood cells (it is not the case) plus having run so much that your thorax hurts with pain. Did anybody have this? Does someone have an explanation?
and it is not stress...
I had my third infusion last Wednesday. It is much much easier than the last time because I have less nausea so I hope the body is adjusting and that I will not have pain on week 2.
I do hope TDM1 will be released soon for everybody. And Pertuzumab also!
Love to all. Michka
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04.2015 Stop TDM1/Kadcyla, still Ned, liver problems
04.2016 Liver mets. Back on Kadcyla
08.2016 Kadcyla stopped working. mets to liver lungs bones
09.2016 Biopsy to liver. no more HER2, still ER+
09.2016 CMF Afinitor/Aromasin/ Xgeva.Met to eye muscle Cyberknife
01.2017 Gemzar/Carboplatin/ Ibrance/Faslodex then Taxotere
02.2017 30 micro mets to brain breathing getting worse and worse
04.2017 Liquid biopsy/CTC indicates HER2 again. Start Herceptin with Halaven
06.2017 all tumors shrunk 60% . more micro mets to brain (1mm mets) no symptoms
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Old 06-02-2012, 04:39 AM   #2
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Re: First scan TDM1

Michka,
All that shrinkage sounds very promising to me!!
I hope this next round is easier for you.
I'll keep my fingers and toes crossed for the next scan in 6 weeks!
Take good care of yourself!
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Old 06-02-2012, 08:53 AM   #3
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Re: First scan TDM1

Glad to hear from you, Michka.
Glad to hear about the skinkage.

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Old 06-02-2012, 09:00 AM   #4
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Re: First scan TDM1

Good, good news, Michka! Warm hugs to you! Going in the right direction...
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Diagnosed: June 2010, liver mets. ER-/PR+10%; HER2+++.
July 2010: Begin Taxol/Herceptin. Eliminate sugar from diet. No surgery or radiation.
January 2011: NED
April 2011: Progression in liver only. Other previous affected areas eradicated. Stop Taxol/Herceptin after 32 infusions.
May 2011: Brain MRI: clear.
May 2011: Begin Tykerb daily, Xeloda twice per day for one week on, one week off, and Herceptin.
November 2011: Progression in liver. All other tumors remain eradicated.
December 2011: BEGIN TRIAL #09-093 Taxol, MCC-DM1 (T-DM1), Perjeta.
Trial requires scans every six weeks, bloodwork and infusions weekly.
Brain MRI: clear.
January 2012: NED. Liver mets, good riddance!
March 2012: NED. Developed SMA (rare blood clot) in intestinal artery and loss of sight in right eye due to optical nerve neuropathy. Resolved when Taxol removed this month.
Continue Protocol of T-DM1 weekly and Perjeta every 3 weeks.
May 2012: NED.
June 2012: Brain MRI: clear.
June-December 2012: NED.
December 2012: TRIAL CONCLUDED; ENTER TRIAL EXTENSION #09-037. CT, Brain MRI, bone scan: clear. NED.
January-March 2013: NED.
June 2013: Brain MRI: clear. CEA upticking; CT shows new met on liver.
July 3, 2013: DISASTER STRIKES during liver ablation: sloppy surgeon cuts intercostal artery and I bleed out, lose 3.5 liters of blood, have major hemothorax, and collapsed lung requiring emergency resuscitative thoracotomy, lung surgery, rib rearrangement and cutting deep connective tissue, transfusion. Ablation incomplete. This life-saving procedure would end up causing me unforgiving pain with every movement I make, permanently, otherwise known as forever.
July 26, 2013: Try Navelbine/Herceptin. Body too weak after surgery and transfusion. Fever. CEA: Normal.
August 16, 2016: second dose Navelbine/Herceptin; CEA: Normal. Will skip doses. Watching and waiting.
September 2013: NED, Herceptin only. CEA: Normal. Started Arimidex.
October-November 2013: NED. Herceptin and Arimidex. CEA, CA125, 15-3: Normal.
December 2013: Something brewing. PET lights up on little spot on liver; CEA upward trend, just outside normal. PET and triphasic liver scan confirm Little Met. Restart Perjeta with Herceptin, stay on Arimidex. Genomic sequencing completed for future treatments, if necessary.
January 2014: Ablate Little Met on the 6th. Happy New Year.
March 2014: Brain MRI: clear. PET/CT reveal liver mets return; new lung mets. This is not funny.
March 2014: BEGIN TRIAL #10-005 A(11)-Temsirolimus plus Neratinib.
April 2014: Genomic testing indicated they could work, they did not. Very strange drug combo for me, felt weird.
April 2014: Started Navelbine and Herceptin. Needed something tried and true, but had significant progression.
June 2014: Doxil and Herceptin.
July 2014: Progression. Got nothing out of it. Brain: NED.
July 2014: Add integrative medical hematologist-oncologist to my team. Begin supplements. These are tumor-busting, immune system boosters. Add glutathione, lysine and taurine IV infusions every three weeks.
July 2014: Begin Gemzar, Herceptin & Perjeta. Happy.
August 2014: ECHO perfect.
January 2015: Begin weekly Vitamin D Analog infusions. 25 mcg. via port.
February 2015: CT: stable.
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Old 06-02-2012, 10:13 AM   #5
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Re: First scan TDM1

Sorry to hear that you felt bad. Have you checked for symptoms others may have reported?

Wondeful that your body won out with the shrinkage. And seems nothing new was seen on the scan. Another positive point.

Six weeks will be around Bastille Day, so we will look forward to the tumors having been "stormed" by the TDM-1!
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Continue as NED while on Herceptin & quarterly Zometa
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2007 - spot/scar in brain stable - finished anticoagulation therapy for clot along my port-a-catheter - 3 angioplasties to unblock vena cava
2008 - Brain and body still NED! Port removed and scans in Dec.
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Old 06-02-2012, 12:14 PM   #6
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Re: First scan TDM1

Hi Steph. I like the idea of giving some more blasts to the stupid tumors in order to dance in the Paris streets on Bastille Day!
As for the limitation and pain in the thorax, some women here reported "pessure" on the thorax. Maybe it is the same side effect. I would like to understand what it is. I first thought it was my heart. Is it stress on the heart? The lungs? Nerves?
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FEC, Taxol+ Herceptin, Mastectomy, Radiation, Herceptin 1 year followed by Tykerb 1 year,Aromasin /Faslodex

12.2010 Mets to liver,Herceptin+Tykerb
03.2011 Liver resection ER+70% PR-
04.2011 Herceptin+Navelbine+750mg Tykerb
06.2011 Liver ned, Met to sternum. Added Zometa 09.2011 Cyberknife for sternum
11.2011 Pet clear. Stop Navelbine, continuing on Hercpetin+Tykerb+Aromasin
02.2012 Mets to lungs, nodes, liver
04.2012 TDM1, Ned in 07.2012
04.2015 Stop TDM1/Kadcyla, still Ned, liver problems
04.2016 Liver mets. Back on Kadcyla
08.2016 Kadcyla stopped working. mets to liver lungs bones
09.2016 Biopsy to liver. no more HER2, still ER+
09.2016 CMF Afinitor/Aromasin/ Xgeva.Met to eye muscle Cyberknife
01.2017 Gemzar/Carboplatin/ Ibrance/Faslodex then Taxotere
02.2017 30 micro mets to brain breathing getting worse and worse
04.2017 Liquid biopsy/CTC indicates HER2 again. Start Herceptin with Halaven
06.2017 all tumors shrunk 60% . more micro mets to brain (1mm mets) no symptoms
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Old 06-02-2012, 02:14 PM   #7
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Re: First scan TDM1

Michka,

Shrinkage is good (unless you are George Castanza, and you are not - )!

Keep your spirits up, those stupid mets have only begun to expire...

Hope you feel better too, and the pressure eases.

all the best cherie,
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Old 06-03-2012, 11:53 AM   #8
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Re: First scan TDM1

Mkchka,

Sounds like some very promising initial results!

My experience with tdm1 was that I had what I called "flu like symptoms" , fever, achy etc for a few days after infusion. The first infusion was worst and subsequent infusions were not as bad or sometimes not at all. My disease was only in my liver, and I remember a few days after my first infusion having intense pain in my liver, so intense I couldn't breathe. It lasted a few hours then went away. At the time, and I still believe this was screaming cancer cells dying. "pain at tumor site" is an occasional side effect of herceptin you know.

My onc found that "interesting" but of course could not really attribute it to anything.

On another note, part of the mechanism of action of herceptin, and presumably TDM1, is to elicit an immune response. Your immune system reacting to the invading herceptin antibody. Symptoms of this might nclude fever, achy...

I'm not claiming any of this is what you are experiencing. Just sharing my own experience on TDM1.

But overall, I think it's possible that what you are seeing are good signs, barticularly beginng with the scans. My oncologist always says "the proof is in the pudding" (wherever that expression came from!), and shrinkage is a good thing!
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Old 06-04-2012, 10:28 AM   #9
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Bonjour,
so happy to hear the tumors are shrinking and expect to hear you were dancing in the streets of Paris on Bastille Day!
Sorry about the chest pain, hopefully that will get look at in more detail.
Rest, don't push yourself too hard.
Paris looks cold - we've been watching roland Garros on the computer and everyone's bundled up!
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Old 06-04-2012, 11:05 AM   #10
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You are in my prayers sweet Michka! I'm so glad they are shrinking! Peace
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