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03-14-2014, 07:23 PM
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Chronic pain- who's got it?
Okay met-sisters,
I've been on so many therapies that the side effects are catching up with me and its hard to figure out where my latest "chronic" pain is coming from now.
I've got horrible pain in my feet and ankles- I think it is neuropathy from my short stent (4 months) on Halaven, but it could also be joint pain from the aromasin (I have bad overall achiness). My feet feel swollen, tired, itchy and hurt even when I'm not on them. The pain is more intense in my right foot, where I had radiation therapy for a pinched nerve from the cancer in my hip. It also could be the cancer itself pressing on something causing bilateral pain.
So I begged my oncologist to put me on some stronger pain killers, tylenol with codeine wasn't cutting it. So now I'm on morphine ER and am surviving with 1-2 pills per day. Anyone know anything about chronic pain? Do you think its from neuropathy? Cancer? or the chemo? Do you have chronic pain and if so what do you take for it. Is it related to bone specific disease or other mets?
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[B]Kristin
Aug 2010: diagnosed stage 3b, 4 mo. after birth of son. 29 yrs old and breastfeeding, ER/PR-, Her-2+ started Neoadjuvant therapy: 4x FEC, 10x abraxane & Herceptin
Feb 2011: L mx with recon. Path. showed only DCIS but 4/10+ nodes.
March 2011: 6 wks rads.
Mother passed, lower back pain.
Late May 2011: Bone mets but organs clear; Tykerb, Xeloda, Xgeva. Stopped Herceptin. Implant infected: removed implant.
October 2011: Bone progression; Gemzar and Carboplatin & restarted Herceptin.
Jan 2012: Progression, re-classified as ER+; Tykerb, Herceptin, Zoladex & Femara. Anti-E is working!
May 2012: ovaries out, markers stable but elevated. Cont. Herceptin, Tykerb, Xgeva & Femara.
Dec 2012: aromasin
Jan 2013: faslodex, herceptin, tykerb
Jun: Kadcyla
Aug: Rads to hip, then Perjeta, Herceptin & Taxotere
Nov 2013: Perjeta, Herceptin, Halaven
Early 2014: Affinitor, Aromasin, Perjeta, Herceptin.
June 2014: Estradiol, Perjeta, Herceptin
Aug 14: Tamoxofin, H & P
http://kristin-notdying-blog.blogspot.com/
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03-14-2014, 10:23 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Detroit Metropolitan Area, Michigan
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Re: Chronic pain- who's got it?
It's been so long, I don't know what normal feels like anymore. I have neuropathy in my feet which started while on Carboplatin and Taxol last year. My feet got so bad I had to stop chemo. I have had chronic back pain for years so I understand. I take Neurontin 300 and Motrin 800 2-3 days a day which really helps to take the edge off. Although my pain becomes tolerable with this drugs, unfortunately it makes me so tired so I am inactive and I often take naps during the day.
Prior to chemo, I was on Affinitor and Aromasin for about six months and tolerated them quite well. I took both a bedtime with food. I never felt quite right, but really couldn't figure out what was different either. I know most women have difficultly tolerating these drugs. Actually I found that the more I brushed and took care of my teeth, my gums and mouth felt more sensitive. So I only brushed once a day with a soft children's toothbrush and a small drop of regular toothpaste (nothing with whitening or tartar control in it), I also skipped the Rx mouthwash, flossing, etc.
Kristin, I hope for your continued pain and wellness improvement. May God Almighty hold you in his loving and healing arms.
Dear Lord, have mercy on this young and loving mother. Please lift her pain and help to curb this cancer and restore her health. Amen.
Joanne
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Sep06-Jan07...Mediport. Chemo: AC x 4, T x 4
Dec06-Nov07...Herceptin
Feb12,2007...Surg MRM Left & SM Right, reconstruct w/expanders
Mar07-Jun07...Saline Exp
Jun07...Start Tamoxifen
Jun07-Aug07...Rad x 25
Jun07-Oct07...Persistent fevers-unknown origin
Jun07-Nov07...PT for Severe PMPS & Capsular Contracture
Nov07...Surg Capsulectomy, Gel Implants, PMPS pain gone instantly.
Feb08...NED 1st CANCERVERSARY!!!!!
Feb08...2 months post surgery Caps Cont again :(
Mar08...Stop Tamoxifen. Start Arimidex.
Apr08...Sudden high fever, Hosp ICU 10 days, staph infect, emerg surg, implants removed. Outpt IVantibiotics Daily x 6 weeks
Feb11...NED 5th CANCERVERSARY!!!!!
Feb12...NED 6th CANCERVERSARY!!!!!
Aug12...Spotting. Surg=D&C
Sep12...STAGE IV = RARE BC METS TO UTERUS ILC ER+/PR+/HER2-Negative) (Different BC than originally diagnosed = IDC ER+/PR+/HER2+).
Sep12...Stop Arimidex. Start Afinitor & Aromasin.
Jan13...MRI = no progression no reduction
Apr13...Progression. Stop Afinitor & Aromasin.
Apr13...Start Chemo: Taxol & Carboplatin.
Nov13...Scans & Pelvic 95+% Reduction. Nueropathy>Stop chemo start Fareston.
Jan14...PET scan = no progression stable.
May14...Pelvic > Bleeding & cramps. TMs up.
May14...PET scan = uterine progression :(
May14...Stop Fareston. Start Chemo: Xeloda.
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03-15-2014, 03:43 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Hot Springs, South Dakota
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Re: Chronic pain- who's got it?
I had "a spot" as they called it on my pelvic bone that was pressing on a nerve. It got so bad that I couldn't walk. after 5 radiations BINGO no more pain. I still have pain now and then down to my foot. They took me off aromasin for the time being and that ended the body aches. So trial and error the aromasin may be causing your body aches - maybe they could switch you to something else, but the nerve pain I hope is not from cancer but maybe from sciatic problems. As far a pain meds I use a combination of aleve and very stong ibuprophen - together they seem to work. I have bones mets in my spine/pelvic area so I understand your pain. Hope you get some relief soon. Chronic pain can wear you down mentally as well as physically.
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Paula T. (saygoon means dog, yes I am Native)
DX March 2012
Stage IV w/ 5 bone mets to spine 2 on ribs
Herceptin, Zometa, Taxotere and Anasterole and of course radiation
2/14/2014 2 mets on pelvic bone
Stop Anasterole continue on Herceptin and Zometa start radiation (again)
2/24/2014 start T-DM1 continue Herceptin and Zometa
4/28 more radiation that brings total to 5 (10 days ea) - I think I will soon glow in the dark....
6/01/2014 Great news! Rib mets gone, 4 of 5 spine mets showing new bone growth and pelvic mets shrinking.
8/28/2014 T11 on spine is being stubborn started Perjeta, Herceptin, Zometa and Taxol - goodbye hair!
9/04/2014 Tomo therapy - pain finally gone
1/3/2015 - starting New Year out as still stable. Feeling positive
2/23/2015 - problems with left leg, bone met flaring up - MORE radiation Whew!
2/24/2015 Stress fracture in right side of pelvic - (great just great) back to wheelchair then walker then.....
2/26/2015 Off Taxol!! Still on Perjeta, Herceptin and Hormone Blocker starting to feel a little more human.
4/10/2015 Cancer has spread to spinal fluid - not sure where I go from here
6/29/2015 Omaya Port placed,begin IT Herceptin on 7/7/2015
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03-19-2014, 07:59 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2011
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Re: Chronic pain- who's got it?
Kristin, I have bone mets to my spine, pelvis and sternum. I totally understand the pain, and have used different over the counter and prescrip meds to deal with the pain. The weird thing now is that I seem to be having pretty severe arthritis in my hands that I can only think must be a side affect of my meds. I have claw hands in the morning and even when I get them working they pretty much ache all day. Hang in there! I think of you whenever I log on here and our similar challenges raising our young ones with stage IV cancer. Hugs!
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9/11 - dx 3 mnths after giving birth to my 2nd child. (not a clogged milk duct) ER/PR- HER2+++
10/11 - Initially staged at 2b after unilateral mastectomy
11/11 - CT scan 4 weeks later found spots on bones and liver (crap!) Stage 4
12/11 - starting TCH
5/12 - STABLE. stoping TCH after 6 months and continuing Herceptin with Tykerb and Xgeva
8/12 - STABLE, but I'm calling it NED because all they see is bone scaring!
11/12 - STABLE
2/13 - STABLE
6/13 - STABLE
9/13 - STABLE
12/13 - STABLE
3/14 - STABLE
6/14 - STABLE
9/14 - STABLE
12/14 - STABLE
...Continue Herceptin and daily Tykerb and scans every 4 months
1/16 - STABLE
11/18 - Five level spinal fusion from collapsing vertebrae due to spinal Mets/radiation
12/19 - STABLE
Mom to Audrey (12 yrs) and Hudson (8)
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03-20-2014, 07:05 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Iowa
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Re: Chronic pain- who's got it?
KaiM,
I'm not sure I ever noticed that you declared yourself NED until now. That is awesome, I'd like to declare myself- No Evidence of Dead, because I am very much alive and love living life, despite the stage IV diagnosis. We do have alot of similarities, and you are doing awesome! ((Hugs and thanks))
Kristin
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[B]Kristin
Aug 2010: diagnosed stage 3b, 4 mo. after birth of son. 29 yrs old and breastfeeding, ER/PR-, Her-2+ started Neoadjuvant therapy: 4x FEC, 10x abraxane & Herceptin
Feb 2011: L mx with recon. Path. showed only DCIS but 4/10+ nodes.
March 2011: 6 wks rads.
Mother passed, lower back pain.
Late May 2011: Bone mets but organs clear; Tykerb, Xeloda, Xgeva. Stopped Herceptin. Implant infected: removed implant.
October 2011: Bone progression; Gemzar and Carboplatin & restarted Herceptin.
Jan 2012: Progression, re-classified as ER+; Tykerb, Herceptin, Zoladex & Femara. Anti-E is working!
May 2012: ovaries out, markers stable but elevated. Cont. Herceptin, Tykerb, Xgeva & Femara.
Dec 2012: aromasin
Jan 2013: faslodex, herceptin, tykerb
Jun: Kadcyla
Aug: Rads to hip, then Perjeta, Herceptin & Taxotere
Nov 2013: Perjeta, Herceptin, Halaven
Early 2014: Affinitor, Aromasin, Perjeta, Herceptin.
June 2014: Estradiol, Perjeta, Herceptin
Aug 14: Tamoxofin, H & P
http://kristin-notdying-blog.blogspot.com/
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03-22-2014, 06:04 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: "Love never fails."
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Re: Chronic pain- who's got it?
Kristin,
Have you had an 'echo' lately? Swollen and painful ankle/joint could be a sign of fluid retention due to weakened heart function after chemo/Herceptin. Have you talked to your doctors about it?
Hope you can find out the cause and figure out a way to reduce/eliminate the pain.
Sending you good vibes.
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Jackie07
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03-23-2014, 08:44 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Hot Springs, South Dakota
Posts: 158
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Re: Chronic pain- who's got it?
No Evidence of Dead - I LOVE IT!
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Paula T. (saygoon means dog, yes I am Native)
DX March 2012
Stage IV w/ 5 bone mets to spine 2 on ribs
Herceptin, Zometa, Taxotere and Anasterole and of course radiation
2/14/2014 2 mets on pelvic bone
Stop Anasterole continue on Herceptin and Zometa start radiation (again)
2/24/2014 start T-DM1 continue Herceptin and Zometa
4/28 more radiation that brings total to 5 (10 days ea) - I think I will soon glow in the dark....
6/01/2014 Great news! Rib mets gone, 4 of 5 spine mets showing new bone growth and pelvic mets shrinking.
8/28/2014 T11 on spine is being stubborn started Perjeta, Herceptin, Zometa and Taxol - goodbye hair!
9/04/2014 Tomo therapy - pain finally gone
1/3/2015 - starting New Year out as still stable. Feeling positive
2/23/2015 - problems with left leg, bone met flaring up - MORE radiation Whew!
2/24/2015 Stress fracture in right side of pelvic - (great just great) back to wheelchair then walker then.....
2/26/2015 Off Taxol!! Still on Perjeta, Herceptin and Hormone Blocker starting to feel a little more human.
4/10/2015 Cancer has spread to spinal fluid - not sure where I go from here
6/29/2015 Omaya Port placed,begin IT Herceptin on 7/7/2015
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03-23-2014, 09:33 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 59
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Re: Chronic pain- who's got it?
No Evidence of Dead! That's my new definition of NED, thanks Kristin! ((Hugs))
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9/11 - dx 3 mnths after giving birth to my 2nd child. (not a clogged milk duct) ER/PR- HER2+++
10/11 - Initially staged at 2b after unilateral mastectomy
11/11 - CT scan 4 weeks later found spots on bones and liver (crap!) Stage 4
12/11 - starting TCH
5/12 - STABLE. stoping TCH after 6 months and continuing Herceptin with Tykerb and Xgeva
8/12 - STABLE, but I'm calling it NED because all they see is bone scaring!
11/12 - STABLE
2/13 - STABLE
6/13 - STABLE
9/13 - STABLE
12/13 - STABLE
3/14 - STABLE
6/14 - STABLE
9/14 - STABLE
12/14 - STABLE
...Continue Herceptin and daily Tykerb and scans every 4 months
1/16 - STABLE
11/18 - Five level spinal fusion from collapsing vertebrae due to spinal Mets/radiation
12/19 - STABLE
Mom to Audrey (12 yrs) and Hudson (8)
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