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Old 10-31-2013, 05:18 PM   #1
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whole brain radiation

Hi, I have a friend diagnosed 2.5 years ago, ER-PR-, Her2 positive. She is in her 40's. She is Stage IV with lung, liver, bone, brain mets. She was originally diagnosed Stage III, but went Stage IV shortly after stopping Herceptin. She is on chemo, plus Herceptin and I am not sure what else. She already has had whole brain radiation once. She has permanent hair loss. Her last CT showed progression and the docs are recommending a 2nd whole brain radiation. What should she do? Should she seek a 2nd opinion at this point from an MD Anderson or a Mayo. She is currently being treated by a top teaching hospital, but I know she is desparate for next steps and a 2nd whole brain radiation sounds rather dire to me.
Any help with this would be appreciated. I am just devastated by this news. I hate cancer. Her suffering has got to be unbearable and she has 2 young children. I have prayed so hard for her, lit candles at churches everywhere...I will continue to pray that is all I can do.
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Brain MRI, CT of lung, liver, bone, all clear
Double Mastectomy w/expanders December 1, 2010
ER- PR- Her2+++, grade 3, 12 positive nodes out of 15
Stage IIIc
Started TCH/Chemo December 31, 2010
6 rounds TCH
Herceptin every 3 weeks for a year
33 rounds of TomoTube radiation, to chest wall, neck, skin and lymph area
September, 2011, MRI to lower spine, hips, DX bulging disk, L4 & L5, pain not from cancer
Expanders removed, implants in Dec 1, 2011
Finished Herceptin, December 21, 2011
August 2012, CT of chest and abdomen, all ok
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September 2013, Mayo visit, Echo results 68, vaccine did not effect my heart! Blood work normal.
January 31, 2013, Mayo visit, Echo normal
February 23, 2014, Numb lips on right side, Brain MRI, normal!
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Old 10-31-2013, 06:05 PM   #2
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Re: whole brain radiation

Oh JillaryJill, I just don't have a good answer for you.

Perhaps the IT Herceptin? Hopefully we will hear from someone with experience with brain mets soon.
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Old 10-31-2013, 07:00 PM   #3
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Re: whole brain radiation

I am in the same position as your friend. 42 with lung, brain, bone and liver mets. I just finished WBR and have had gamma tx twice. My oncs do not recommend WBR twice. I am sorry. I feel horrible after this round. I feel defeated and ready to throw in the towel today. I have lasted 1.5 yrs. Maybe IT Herceptin.
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Old 10-31-2013, 10:19 PM   #4
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Neratinib for HER2-Positive Brain Metastases

A Phase II Trial of HKI-272 (Neratinib) for Patients With Human Epidermal Growth Factor Receptor 2 (HER2)-Positive Breast Cancer and Brain Metastases (11-344)
Summary

Brain metastases are difficult to treat because many drugs are unable to cross the blood-brain barrier, which means they cannot enter the brain from the bloodstream. The experimental drug Neratinib (HKI-272) is a tyrosine kinase inhibitor. It works by blocking the HER2 and EGFR receptors, both of which are involved in cancer cell growth. Neratinib is a much smaller molecule than Herceptin® (the drug widely used to treat HER2+ tumors), and it is able to cross the blood-brain barrier. The goal of this trial is to determine how well neratinib works in treating breast cancer that has spread to the brain, as well as the effect that it has on cognitive functioning.
This is a Phase II trial
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Old 10-31-2013, 10:21 PM   #5
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Re: whole brain radiation

HKI-272 for HER2-Positive Breast Cancer and Brain Metastases

Basic Trial Information

PhaseTypeStatusAgeSponsorProtocol IDsPhase IIBiomarker/Laboratory analysis, TreatmentActive18 and overOther11-344
TBCRC 022, NCT01494662 Trial Description

Summary
The purpose of this research study is to determine how well neratinib works in treating breast cancer that has spread to the brain. Neratinib is a recently discovered oral drug that may stop breast cancer cells from growing abnormally by inhibiting (or blocking) members of a family of proteins that include Human Epidermal Growth Factor Receptor 2 (HER2).
In this research study, the investigators are looking to see how well neratinib works to decrease the size of or stabilize breast cancer that has spread to the brain. The investigators are also looking at how previous treatments have affected your thinking (or cognition) and how much neratinib reaches the central nervous system.
Further Study Information
Subjects will receive neratinib and a drug-dosing calendar for each treatment cycle. This drug is given orally on a daily basis, continuously. Each treatment cycle will last for 4 weeks during which time the subject will be taking neratinib every day.
  • Physical Exams and vital signs: At the start of each cycle, you will have a physical exam. You will be asked questions about your general health and specific questions about any problems that you might be having and any medications you may be taking. You will also have a neurological examination to assess for neurological symptoms.
  • Scans (or Imaging tests): We will assess your tumor by brain MRI every other cycle (the end of cycles 2, 4, 6, 8, etc.) while on study. CT or MRI scans of your chest, abdomen, and pelvis will be performed every other cycle, at the same time points as the brain MRI. Your research doctor may ask you to have a bone scan at the same time points if this is clinically indicated.
  • Photographs: Photographs may be taken of your tumor to assess the response of your tumor to the treatment. Care will be taken to ensure these do not reveal your identity.
  • MUGA or Echo: You will have a MUGA or ECHO done every 3 treatment cycles (the end of cycles 3, 6, 9, etc.).
  • Blood tests: You will have blood tests done at the beginning of each treatment cycle to check your blood cell counts and how well your organs are functioning. In addition to regular blood tests, we will be collecting 2-3 tablespoons of blood for research prior to your study treatment start.
  • Neurocognitive Function: If you have previously received treatment for cancer that has spread to your brain (prior to enrollment on this study), you will be asked to take a battery of tests that assess your cognition (thinking) at the start of the study, after 2 cycles of treatment, and possibly at the end of the study. With these tests, we are trying to better understand how your previous treatments and ongoing treatments affect your memory, attention, learning, and other related skills. These tests will be administered to you by a trained research assistant and may take 30-45 minutes to complete.
  • For preoperative patients only: If you are a patient who is planning to have an operation to remove the cancer in your brain, you will have your surgery between 7-21 days after starting neratinib. These tests will allow us to measure of how much drug (neratinib) reaches the central nervous system and will help us understand how well neratinib does this.
  • At surgery, a part of your tumor cerebrospinal fluid will be collected to test for levels of neratinib. For the cerebrospinal fluid collection, this may require a lumbar puncture just before your surgery begins (spinal tap) if your neurosurgeon feels he/she cannot collect this fluid easily during your surgery. A lumbar puncture is a test often used to detect tumor cells in your cerebrospinal fluid. In this case, we will collect fluid for testing of cancer cells and will also examine the fluid for neratinib concentrations. This will provide information on how much drug (neratinib) reaches the central nervous system. There will be a separate consent form for this procedure given to you by your neurosurgeon (when applicable). This procedure will be done while you are already under general anesthesia for your surgery. If you have a contraindication to having this procedure or if you wish to refuse to undergo this procedure, you may do so.
  • You will also have a blood test on day of surgery to test for levels of neratinib
  • You will then resume neratinib once you have recovered from your surgery
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Old 10-31-2013, 10:23 PM   #6
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After the final dose of the study drug:
You will have a follow-up visit one month after coming off study treatment. During that visit, you will have a physical examination, functional assessment, assessment of any toxicities and current medications, and a neurological examination. If you continue to have ongoing toxicity related to your study treatment, we will continue to follow you until this toxicity resolves. In addition, we will collect about 5-6 tablespoons of blood for research and to measure if a marker for your particular breast cancer exists.
We would like to keep track of your medical condition for up to two years after you stop the study treatment. If you are not seen in follow-up at your participating center (where you enrolled on the study), we would like to follow you by calling you on the telephone or by sending you a letter once a year to see how you are doing. We may also contact your doctor once every 6 months to see how you are doing. Keeping in touch with you and checking your condition every year helps us look at the long-term effects of the research study. If you do not wish to be contacted after you stop the study treatment, you must notify the research study staff of your withdrawal of consent for follow-up
Eligibility Criteria
Inclusion Criteria:
  • Patients (men or women) must have histologically or cytologically confirmed invasive breast cancer, with metastatic disease. Patients without pathologic or cytologic confirmation of metastatic disease should have unequivocal evidence of metastasis by physical exam or radiologic study.
  • Invasive primary tumor or metastatic tissue confirmation of HER2-positive status
  • Over-expression by immunohistochemistry (IHC) with score of 3+ (in > 30% of invasive tumor cells) AND/OR HER2 gene amplification (> 6 HER2 gene copies per nucleus or a FISH ratio [HER2 gene copies to chromosome 17 signals] of ≥ 2.0)
  • Note: Patients with a negative or equivocal overall result (FISH ratio of < 2.0 or ≤ 6.0 HER2 gene copies per nucleus) and IHC staining scores of 0, 1+, 2+ are not eligible for enrollment
  • No increase in corticosteroid dose in the week prior to baseline brain MRI
  • Prior trastuzumab and lapatinib therapy are allowed.
  • There is no limit to the number of previous lines of therapy (including chemotherapy, trastuzumab, and endocrine therapies)
  • No prior therapy with neratinib is allowed
  • At least 2 weeks washout period post chemotherapy, any prior protocol therapy, lapatinib, other targeted or biologic therapy, or radiation therapy is required prior to study entry
  • No washout is required for hormonal therapy but concurrent hormonal therapy is not allowed for patients on study
Patients with progressive disease (Cohort 1):
  • For cohort 1, patients must have new or progressive CNS lesions, as assessed by the patient's treating physician.
  • In cohort 1, patients must have measurable CNS disease, defined as at least one parenchymal brain lesion that can be accurately measured in at least one dimension with longest dimension ≥10 mm by local radiology review. Note: measurable non-CNS disease is NOT required for study participation
  • It is anticipated that some patients may have multiple progressive CNS lesions, one or several of which are treated with SRS or surgery with residual untreated lesions remaining. Such patients are eligible for enrollment on this study providing that at least one residual (i.e. non-SRS-treated or non-resected) lesion is measurable (≥10 mm).
  • Patients who have had prior cranial surgery are eligible, provided that there is evidence of measurable residual or progressive lesions, and at least 2 weeks have passed since surgery. If a patient has surgical resection followed by WBRT, then there must be evidence of progressive CNS disease after the completion of WBRT.
  • Patients who have had prior WBRT and/or SRS and then whose prior treated lesions have progressed thereafter are also eligible. In this case, lesions which have been treated with SRS may be considered as target lesions if there is unequivocal evidence, in the opinion of the treating physician, of progression.
Patients with with operable disease (Cohort 2):
  • In cohort 2, eligible patients will include those who have CNS disease that is amenable for surgery (typically < 3 brain metastases and with planned resection by neurosurgery). These patients may include those who have received or not received previous treatment(s) for their CNS.
  • It is anticipated that that patients who have intracranial disease amenable to surgery will have measurable CNS disease prior to study entry and to resection. However, this is not an eligibility requirement. Measurable disease is also not required to continue on protocol subsequent to surgical resection.
  • For patients who undergo surgery, postoperative whole brain radiation therapy will not be allowed while patients are on study (concurrent neratinib and radiation therapy has not been studied and toxicity of this is unknown). Patients will require discontinuation of neratinib if radiation therapy will be administered.
Exclusion Criteria:
  • Not pregnant or breastfeeding
  • Participants who have had chemotherapy or radiotherapy (including investigational agents) within 2 weeks prior to entering the study or those who have not recovered adequately from adverse events due to agents administered more than 4 weeks earlier (excluding alopecia). Washout from trastuzumab is not required.
  • Participants who are currently receiving any other investigational agents
  • History of allergic reactions attributed to compounds of similar chemical or biologic composition to neratinib
  • Concurrent use of enzyme-inducing antiepileptic drugs (EIAEDs), including phenytoin, carbamazepine, oxcarbazepine, fosphenytoin, phenobarbital, pentobarbital, or primidone
  • Patients who are receiving any cancer-directed concurrent therapy, such as concurrent chemotherapy, radiotherapy, or hormonal therapy while on study. Concurrent treatment with bisphosphonates is allowed but should be started before the first dose of neratinib.
  • Uncontrolled intercurrent illness including, but not limited to ongoing or active infection, symptomatic congestive heart failure, unstable angina pectoris, cardiac arrhythmia, or psychiatric illness/social situations that would limit compliance with study requirements
  • More than two seizures over the last 4 weeks prior to study entry
  • Patients with known contraindication to MRI, such as cardiac pacemaker, shrapnel, or ocular foreign body
  • Those with leptomeningeal metastases as the only site of CNS disease
  • Significant malabsorption syndrome or inability to tolerate oral medications
  • Any predisposing chronic condition resulting in baseline grade 2 or higher diarrhea
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Old 10-31-2013, 10:29 PM   #7
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Re: whole brain radiation

http://www.cancer.gov/clinicaltrials..._CDR0000721367
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Old 11-01-2013, 12:06 AM   #8
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Re: whole brain radiation

How about injecting herceptin directly to the brain? Paul's wife and some other members seem to have had a good response to this type of treatment. I think UCLA is the only place that does it in California.
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TCH*6, Herceptin
BMX with immediate recontruction 5/2011 Lattismus Flap- Dx stage 3c 10/23 nodes
9/11 Radiation
3/12 Local recurrence to skin stage IV
Whole body scan CLEAR
4/12 Tykerb & Xeolda Skin mets slowly regressing
8/12 PET & Brain CT Clear
5/13 Skin mets progressing
6/13 PET scan chestwall recurrence in contralateral anxillary,internal mammary and ipsilateral subpectoral nodes
6/13 kadcyla
10/13 whole body scan -clear NED. previously resolved skin rash gone but 3 new lesions. Biopsy confirmed for skin recurrence
11/13 to 02/14 tykerb & herceptin
02/14 add abraxane/gemzar, 2 weeks on 1 week off at reduced dose
05/14 whole body PET clear/ brain CT clear but skin mets are getting worse, ready for new chemo
05/14 navelbine perjeta herceptin
07/14 skin mets progressing red rash worse
08/14 wide local excision with diep flap to close wound. Final path shows 2 positive margins showing inflammatory carcinoma Going back to surgery in 2 weeks
09/01/14 resection- clear margins
3 weeks after 2nd surgery, a new nodular rash found near drain incision with 2 small red spots behind the chest wall biopsy on 10/1. Positive for breast cancer
Radiation 11/2014 with xeloda then weekly cisplatin
11/14 brain MRI clean
12/14 finished 33 radiations burnt and very painful. Bedridden for 1 week
12/14 t current Herceptin and perjeta only
02/15 rash on upper back right side skin mets radiation planned
02/15 staring electron radiation *35
Stopped at 30 due to severe skin burn, resumed 10 days later
05/15 red patches appeared in between previously radiated area, skin mets. Ct and brain Mri clear. Simulation planned, radiation to start after trip to Alaska.
05/24 new spot identified in scar line on previously radiated reconstructed breast- electron on both side chest wall area and scar line
07/15 multiple skin and lung recurrence begin halaven
11/15 cough much better but very tired on halaven and starting to see some new red skin blotches-suspicious
11/15 heading to China for immune therapy
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Old 11-01-2013, 01:35 AM   #9
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Re: whole brain radiation

My radiation oncologist never mentioned WBR as being an option more than once. I was under the impression the risk of damage to the brain is too high. Is cyberknife or gamma knife an option that has been mentioned? That is what my radiation oncologist plans to do if/when the brain tumors recur. I think that a second opinion would be a good idea. I actually think a second opinion is always a good idea. I am so sorry that your friend is facing such a tough situation. I will absolutely pray for her and her family. Please keep us updated!
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Clear.
December 2012 was diagnosed with five brain mets, and had whole brain radiation.
Around July 2014 two mets in brain, one a residual spot and one new one growing in size. Received Cyberknife on both areas
Clear/NED
April 2015 remain NED
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Old 11-01-2013, 12:48 PM   #10
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Re: whole brain radiation

Thank you Lizabeth for all the info. I forwarded this to my friend. The trial sounds like something she would qualify and one of the locations is Michigan which would be doable for her.

Sdgirl...I am so sorry you are suffering also. I hope that this information sharing on this board can help you with next steps also.

KsGal...love the bluebird. We had a female and male nest in our yard last summer. I thought it was a sign of good luck. They were so fun to watch.
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DX November 2010
Brain MRI, CT of lung, liver, bone, all clear
Double Mastectomy w/expanders December 1, 2010
ER- PR- Her2+++, grade 3, 12 positive nodes out of 15
Stage IIIc
Started TCH/Chemo December 31, 2010
6 rounds TCH
Herceptin every 3 weeks for a year
33 rounds of TomoTube radiation, to chest wall, neck, skin and lymph area
September, 2011, MRI to lower spine, hips, DX bulging disk, L4 & L5, pain not from cancer
Expanders removed, implants in Dec 1, 2011
Finished Herceptin, December 21, 2011
August 2012, CT of chest and abdomen, all ok
Enrolled in MC1136 Phase I Peptide Vaccine Trial at Mayo Clinic, Rochester, Minnesota
March 2013, First Vaccine
April 2013, 2nd Vaccine
May 2013, 3rd Vaccine
June 2013, 4th Vaccine
July 2013, 5th Vaccine
August 2013, 6th Vaccine Done!
September 2013, Mayo visit, Echo results 68, vaccine did not effect my heart! Blood work normal.
January 31, 2013, Mayo visit, Echo normal
February 23, 2014, Numb lips on right side, Brain MRI, normal!
June, 2015, Finished the trial at Mayo Clinic. Feels good!
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Old 11-01-2013, 01:20 PM   #11
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Re: whole brain radiation

Talk to Amal Melhem-Bertrandt at MD Anderson in the Breast Cancer center. She is the person treating my wife Nina. Nina is 4 years to the good since Brain lesion was discovered and nearly two years to the good since spinal involvement was discovered. I would ask for Topotecan and IT Pertuzumab (40 mg weekly for four weeks, then 80-100 mg weekly after that). USC in LA was supposed to run a clinical trial at that dose, but there is some hold up. If not, use Herceptin instead of Pertuzumab. Results have been really good so far. Ask for Compassionate Care use to get around some government regulatory issues that could delay treatment. Private E-mail back if you want more info.
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