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Old 05-02-2007, 09:36 AM   #1
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Thumbs up her2 breast cancer cured (when transplanted in mice) using triple targetted therapy

vs her family:

Combination treatment stymies breast cancer growth [Eureka News Service]
HOUSTON (May 5, 2007)—A combination of three different drugs that block the HER-2 receptor, a critical cellular growth signal for some breast cancers, eradicated aggressive breast tumors in mice and could point the way toward developing better treatments inpatients, said researchers from the Breast Center at Baylor College of Medicine in a report that appears today in the Journal of the National Cancer Institute.
"For the first time, we were able to cure mice of a very aggressive human breast tumor," said Dr. Rachel Schiff, assistant professor in the Breast Center at Baylor College of Medicine and senior author of the report.

In prior such studies, treatment only slowed or delayed the growth of tumors, she said. In this case, the tumors disappear and do not come back, even when treatment is stopped.

The treatment involved is a new approach known as "targeted" therapy because the protein (in this case, HER-2) driving a tumor to grow is first identified in a patient's tumor and then specific drugs are used to block that particular growth pathway in the cells, said Dr. Kent Osborne director of the Breast Center and the Dan L. Duncan Cancer Center with BCM. He is also an investigator on the study.

"When you go after a specific target in a patient's tumor, the treatment is likely to be more effective and less toxic," said Schiff.

The tumors in question - nearly 25 percent of all breast cancers - have high levels of HER-2. While the HER-2 makes the tumors more aggressive, it also provides a target against which new drugs can act.

Previously, treatment for patients with HER-2 positive tumors was less effective.

"Now we have effective treatment, and survival is markedly improved," said Dr. Grazia Arpino, lead investigator of the study and a postdoctoral fellow at BCM.

"These tumors are initially highly sensitive to a drug known as trastuzumab or Herceptin, one of the drugs used in combination in the mouse study and which is approved by the FDA (U.S. Food and Drug Administration) for treatment," said Schiff.

However, the tumor is wily and can sometimes escape the drug's effects, resulting in resistance. Adding two other experimental drugs - gefitinib and pertuzumab — that inhibit HER-2 in different ways can more completely block the growth signals in the tumor, causing it to die.

In one of the tumors studied in this report, blocking the stimulatory effects of estrogen on the tumor was also necessary for optimal treatment, said Schiff. Completely blocking the HER pathway is critical, she said. Leaving out just one of the three drugs was much less effective.

A clinical study using drug combinations in newly diagnosed patients with HER-2 positive breast cancer will start soon under the direction of physicians at BCM's Breast Center, said Osborne.

"We are very excited to see if our laboratory results can be translated to patients with the more aggressive types of breast cancer," he said.

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Treatment of Human Epidermal Growth Factor Receptor 2-Overexpressing Breast Cancer Xenografts With Multiagent HER-Targeted Therapy [Journal of the National Cancer Institute]
Background: Human epidermal growth factor receptor 2 (HER2) is a member of the HER signaling pathway. HER inhibitors partially block HER signaling and tumor growth in preclinical breast cancer models. We investigated whether blockade of all HER homo- and heterodimer pairs by combined treatment with several inhibitors could more effectively inhibit tumor growth in such models.
Methods: Mice carrying xenograft tumors of HER2-overexpressing MCF7/HER2-18 (HER2-transfected) or BT474 (HER2-amplified) cells were treated with estrogen supplementation or estrogen withdrawal, alone or combined with tamoxifen. One to three HER inhibitors (pertuzumab, trastuzumab, or gefitinib) could also be added (n ?8 mice per group). Tumor volumes, HER signaling, and tumor cell proliferation and apoptosis were assessed. Results: were analyzed with the t test or Wilcoxon rank sum test and survival analysis methods. All statistical tests were two-sided.

Results: Median time to tumor progression was 21 days for mice receiving estrogen and 28 days for mice receiving estrogen and pertuzumab (difference = 7 days; P = .001; hazard ratio [HR] of progression in mice receiving estrogen and pertuzumab versus mice receiving estrogen = 0.27, 95% confidence interval [CI] = 0.09 to 0.77). Addition of gefitinib and trastuzumab to estrogen and pertuzumab increased this time to 49 days (difference = 21 days; P = .004; HR of progression = 0.28, 95% CI = 0.10 to 0.76). MCF7/HER2-18 tumors disappeared completely and did not progress (for ?189 days) after combination treatment with pertuzumab, trastuzumab, and gefitinib plus tamoxifen (19 of 20 mice) or plus estrogen withdrawal (14 of 15 mice). Both combination treatments induced apoptosis and blocked HER signaling and proliferation in tumor cells better than any single agent or dual combination. All BT474 tumors treated with pertuzumab, trastuzumab, and gefitinib disappeared rapidly, regardless of endocrine therapy, and no tumor progression was observed for 232 days.

Conclusion: Combined treatment with gefitinib, trastuzumab, and pertuzumab to block signals from all HER homo- and heterodimers inhibited growth of HER2-overexpressing xenografts statistically significantly better than single agents and dual combinations.
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Old 05-02-2007, 10:10 AM   #2
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Good Lord. I was not aware of it. Thank you for sharing with us.

I guess they(lab,docs,pharmaceutical companies,etc) have to wait to see first if it will work with mice..before beginning any clinical trial. In any event, it's always uplifting and brings a lot of hope to all of us.

Again, thanks for sharing, Joe.
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2010-2011 September got kicked out of the trial, due to a small spot found on lung.
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2013 October Brain MRI- mixed response. Will see Onc/rad on Halloween.
2013 October/November Brain-MRI nothing new. Repeat MRI next year in May.

2013 December Continue Herceptin and Perjeta. Stable at the moment.
2014 February Brain MRI -clear!
2014 January Added Taxotere to Perjeta+Herceptin.
2014 March Stopped chemo-chest ct-scan next.

2014- March Scans shows tumor's larger, CA2729 higher. Discontinue Herceptin.
2014 April Perjeta+ Halaven
2014 April CA2729 went down 60 points after one cycle. Cough does not want to go away.
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Old 05-02-2007, 10:59 AM   #3
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Hi, with the use of these three drugs, Her1,2, and 3 are blocked. Many her2+ are positive for all three.
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Old 05-02-2007, 11:26 AM   #4
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All I can say is HURRY! This is such good news if it indeed translates to humans...
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Nov'03~ dX stage 2B
Dec'03~
Rt side mastectomy, Her2+, ER/PR+, 10 nodes out, one node positive
Jan'04~
Taxotere/Adria/Cytoxan x 6, NED, no Rads, Tamox. 1 year, Arimadex 3 mo., NED 14 mo.
Sept'05~
micro mets lungs/chest nodes/underarm node, Switched to Aromasin, T/C/H x 7, NED 6 months - Herceptin only
Aug'06~
micro mets chest nodes, & bone spot @ C3 neck, Added Taxol to Herceptin
Feb'07~ Genetic testing, BRCA 1&2 neg

Apr'07~
MRI - two 9mm brain mets & 5 punctates, new left chest met, & small increase of bone spot C3 neck, Stopped Aromasin
May'07~
Started Tykerb/Xeloda, no WBR for now
June'07~
MRI - stable brain mets, no new mets, 9mm spots less enhanced, CA15.3 down 45.5 to 9.3 in 10 wks, Ty/Xel working magic!
Aug'07~
MRI - brain mets shrunk half, NO NEW BRAIN METS!!, TMs stable @ 9.2
Oct'07~
PET/CT & MRI show NED
Apr'08~
scans still show NED in the head, small bone spot on right iliac crest (rear pelvic bone)
Sept'08~
MRI shows activity in brain mets, completed 5 fractions/5 consecutive days of IMRT to zap the pesky buggers
Oct'08~
dropped Xeloda, switched to tri-weekly Herceptin in combo with Tykerb, extend to tri-monthly Zometa infusion
Dec'08~
Brain MRI- 4 spots reduced to punctate size, large spot shrunk by 3mm, CT of torso clear/pelvis spot stable
June'09~
new 3-4mm left cerrebellar spot zapped with IMRT targeted rads
Sept'09~
new 6mm & 1 cm spots in pituitary/optic chiasm area. Rx= 25 days of 3D conformal fractionated targeted IMRT to the tumors.
Oct'09~
25 days of low dose 3D conformal fractionated targeted IMRT to the bone mets spot on rt. iliac crest that have been watching for 2 years. Added daily Aromasin back into treatment regimen.
Apr'10~ Brain MRI clear! But, see new small spot on adrenal gland. Change from Aromasin back to Tamoxifen.
June'10~ Tumor markers (CA15.3) dropped from 37 to 23 after one month on Tamoxifen. Continue to monitor adrenal gland spot. Remain on Tykerb/Herceptin/Tamoxifen.
Nov'10~ Radiate positive mediastinal node that was pressing on recurrent laryngeal nerve, causing paralyzed larynx and a funny voice.
Jan'11~ MRI shows possible activity or perhaps just scar tissue/necrotic increase on 3 previously treated brain spots and a pituitary spot. 5 days of IMRT on 4 spots.
Feb'11~ Enrolled in T-DM1 EAP in Denver, first treatment March 25, 2011.
Mar'11~ Finally started T-DM1 EAP in Denver at Rocky Mountain Cancer Center/Rose on Mar. 25... hallelujah.

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Old 05-02-2007, 01:27 PM   #5
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Lani - I adore you! Seriously, I haven't been posting lately, but I truly appreciate your work in sharing new research with us. Thank you! Belindax
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  • Aug 2011 - Diagnosed with Stage IV mets to lung, sternum and 12 or so thoracic nodes - Rads to Sternum, then weekly abraxane and herceptin for 12 weeks.
  • May 2012- good scans - all nodes still about normal size, hole in sternum repairing, lung tumour 'obliterated'.
    Ongoing herceptin every 3 weeks. Bloods still all good! Life good!
  • March 2013 - recurrence - tumours in lungs and mediastinum (coughing up blood) - immediate radiation treatment to right lung and mediastinum, still on Herceptin, and 3 months of Vinoralbine - stable for a little while!
  • Coughing and breathlessness started again September 2013, treated as radiation-induced fibrosis (which can be seen on scans - albeit stable). ie puffers, steroids
  • January 2014 - cough becomes bloody again, scans show big mediastinal tumour wrapped around and choking the life out of my right main bronchus, radiation deemed off limits as my lungs are hypersensitive to radiation (measured by existing damage from 2013) .....................- ie I am in the 5% of people likely to suffer severe radiation damage to the lungs that they warn you about before starting treatment! (so special! :) )
  • Started chemo Feb 2014 - continuing Herceptin (continuous since Aug 2011), with Carboplatin and Gemcitabine. Discontinued Gemcitabine because of se's. Starting cycle 5 Herc/Carbo 5 May 2014.
  • Meantime.....coughing and breathlessness increased to SCARY levels with racing heartbeat that won't slow down, breath that won't come back, even just walking to the bathroom or up 3 or 4 steps.
  • ICU from May 5 2014, collapsed right lung due to tumour, small pulmonary embolism (left), tumours growing in mediastinum left and right, dvt lower right leg
  • Plan seems to be bronchoscope next week to see if tumour can be lasered and stent inserted in right bronchus to reopen air access to lower parts of right lung. If that is successful might be able to have brachytherapy to worst tumour, otherwise no more options for external radiotherapy.
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Old 05-02-2007, 02:42 PM   #6
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I don't quite understand. Another study using the same combination with the same results was released at San Antonio in 2004.

http://www.abstracts2view.com/sabcs/...p?nu=BCS4L_713

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Old 05-02-2007, 03:01 PM   #7
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Joe - it looks to me like the differnce is that they haven't only focussed on E+ cancers (as they did in the initial study), and that the tumours have been shown to die and not to return - all the more evidence that when the HER2 cancer is isolated, it can be treated successfully. And, good news that they are now intending to start human trials of this combo, eh?


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  • Diagnosed 3 Jan 2007, Stage IIb, Mastectomy and axillary clearance 10 Jan 07, 6 of 19 nodes affected, multi-focal cancer, HER2 positive. Second mastectomy (prophylactic). Chemo - AC 3 months, Taxol 3 months - then radiation 5 weeks.
  • Aug 2011 - Diagnosed with Stage IV mets to lung, sternum and 12 or so thoracic nodes - Rads to Sternum, then weekly abraxane and herceptin for 12 weeks.
  • May 2012- good scans - all nodes still about normal size, hole in sternum repairing, lung tumour 'obliterated'.
    Ongoing herceptin every 3 weeks. Bloods still all good! Life good!
  • March 2013 - recurrence - tumours in lungs and mediastinum (coughing up blood) - immediate radiation treatment to right lung and mediastinum, still on Herceptin, and 3 months of Vinoralbine - stable for a little while!
  • Coughing and breathlessness started again September 2013, treated as radiation-induced fibrosis (which can be seen on scans - albeit stable). ie puffers, steroids
  • January 2014 - cough becomes bloody again, scans show big mediastinal tumour wrapped around and choking the life out of my right main bronchus, radiation deemed off limits as my lungs are hypersensitive to radiation (measured by existing damage from 2013) .....................- ie I am in the 5% of people likely to suffer severe radiation damage to the lungs that they warn you about before starting treatment! (so special! :) )
  • Started chemo Feb 2014 - continuing Herceptin (continuous since Aug 2011), with Carboplatin and Gemcitabine. Discontinued Gemcitabine because of se's. Starting cycle 5 Herc/Carbo 5 May 2014.
  • Meantime.....coughing and breathlessness increased to SCARY levels with racing heartbeat that won't slow down, breath that won't come back, even just walking to the bathroom or up 3 or 4 steps.
  • ICU from May 5 2014, collapsed right lung due to tumour, small pulmonary embolism (left), tumours growing in mediastinum left and right, dvt lower right leg
  • Plan seems to be bronchoscope next week to see if tumour can be lasered and stent inserted in right bronchus to reopen air access to lower parts of right lung. If that is successful might be able to have brachytherapy to worst tumour, otherwise no more options for external radiotherapy.
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Old 05-02-2007, 03:43 PM   #8
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Truly exciting news. Hope the translation to human will confirm the validity in human cancer treatment. Thanks for the posting
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Old 05-02-2007, 03:58 PM   #9
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The last line in the abstract suggested clinical trials 3 years ago. I will certainly ask this question at ASCO.

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Old 05-02-2007, 04:49 PM   #10
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Joe, the study your reference is one of my ALL TIME FAVORITES! As I recall, the focus on that one was to restore tamoxifen sensitivity in ER+ cancers. Definitely, do some snoopin and schmoozin around ASCO for news on this!

I agree, finding out if dumb old human BC will also respond can't happen too soon!
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Old 05-02-2007, 11:38 PM   #11
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Joe (and all)

One of the big differences between that abstract and this article is that in the study cited in the ASCO abstract they used not only MCF7 cells transfected with her2 (an artificial construct which may not have any similarity to any naturally occuring tumor) but also BT474
a tumor which naturally occured in the poor person whose cell line was propagated and perpetuated which is her amplified (eg FISH+) and ER+. This human breast cancer cell line was implanted into the rodent,so...

This is as close as it gets to simulating her2+ER+ breast cancer as it occurs in humans.

Estrogen depletion ie, AIs were studied --in the abstract I believe only tamoxifen was studied, which represents a SERM, which blocks the estrogen receptor rather than depleting estrogen.

For all of those (like Jean) wondering what is the best AI, or whether STS and'or 17OH-HSD should also be blocked (aromatase is only one of three enzymes responsible for the formation of estrogen and similar compounds
not only in body fat, muscle and adrenal gland, but also within the breast cancer cells themselves), and worrying about using creams with parabens and other estrogen-like compounds, I thought the following sentence was particularly helpful:

All BT474 tumors treated with pertuzumab, trastuzumab, and gefitinib disappeared rapidly, regardless of endocrine therapy, and no tumor progression was observed for 232 days.

It is the same team of investigators who presented (abstract) and published
(today's article) both. It represents continued work by the lab on the same issue over the years...they have improved the meaningfulness of their study but adding the more representative cancer cell line (BT474), trying to gauge the import of estrogen depletion as well as estrogen receptor blockade (perhaps even addressing ER degradation if I remember correctly and Fulvestrant was addressed--but that might have been another article I read today), and determining that even without removing estrogen or preventing it from having its usual proliferation-inducing effect these three targetted agents sufficed to "cure" this subset of breast cancer which represents about 10% of breast cancers

Genentech makes two of the three drugs and also makes Tarceva, which works similarly to Iressa, but which, unlike Iressa is FDA approved (for another purpose). Let's hope Genentech hops on this bandwagon!

I went again with my friend to this year's Annual Stockholders Meeting (I am not a stockholder). They reported good progress with pertuzumab--
for the passive among us, let's hope and pray...for the activists among us, let's try to use our energies to help push this progress forward!
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additional comments

1)sorry I typed ASCO rather than SABCS(San Antonio meeting)

2) that study was different in that it was looking to restore tamoxifen efficacy in tumors that became tamoxifen resistant by developing her2 positivity where they did not have it before. That is very different from her2+ER+ TUMORS WHICH are by their nature relatively tamoxifen resistant from the get-go and which have a very different gene expression profile.

Enough for tonight!
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Old 05-03-2007, 02:28 AM   #13
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Thank you, again Lani. Your article, and now your interperetation of for us, has helped me pull through a dark post-chemo week. This seems to be the best news going at the moment, and I agree, anything we can do to push it we should. I agree that Gentech needs to get on the bandwagon - it is heartening that the initial research is independent, but to get the funding needed to make this thing really move along will need the drug companies to get on board. And getting trials takes soooooo long... Was there anyone involved in the early Herceptin days? What worked then?


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  • Aug 2011 - Diagnosed with Stage IV mets to lung, sternum and 12 or so thoracic nodes - Rads to Sternum, then weekly abraxane and herceptin for 12 weeks.
  • May 2012- good scans - all nodes still about normal size, hole in sternum repairing, lung tumour 'obliterated'.
    Ongoing herceptin every 3 weeks. Bloods still all good! Life good!
  • March 2013 - recurrence - tumours in lungs and mediastinum (coughing up blood) - immediate radiation treatment to right lung and mediastinum, still on Herceptin, and 3 months of Vinoralbine - stable for a little while!
  • Coughing and breathlessness started again September 2013, treated as radiation-induced fibrosis (which can be seen on scans - albeit stable). ie puffers, steroids
  • January 2014 - cough becomes bloody again, scans show big mediastinal tumour wrapped around and choking the life out of my right main bronchus, radiation deemed off limits as my lungs are hypersensitive to radiation (measured by existing damage from 2013) .....................- ie I am in the 5% of people likely to suffer severe radiation damage to the lungs that they warn you about before starting treatment! (so special! :) )
  • Started chemo Feb 2014 - continuing Herceptin (continuous since Aug 2011), with Carboplatin and Gemcitabine. Discontinued Gemcitabine because of se's. Starting cycle 5 Herc/Carbo 5 May 2014.
  • Meantime.....coughing and breathlessness increased to SCARY levels with racing heartbeat that won't slow down, breath that won't come back, even just walking to the bathroom or up 3 or 4 steps.
  • ICU from May 5 2014, collapsed right lung due to tumour, small pulmonary embolism (left), tumours growing in mediastinum left and right, dvt lower right leg
  • Plan seems to be bronchoscope next week to see if tumour can be lasered and stent inserted in right bronchus to reopen air access to lower parts of right lung. If that is successful might be able to have brachytherapy to worst tumour, otherwise no more options for external radiotherapy.
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Old 05-03-2007, 03:24 AM   #14
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Any idea of cost?

I was just wondering how much this combination might cost if it works. Does anyone have any idea?

I saved up for herceptin and would not have gotten it under my circumstances if I had not prepared for it financially, so I always think about this. Ironically, about 1/3 of the way through my treatment, the UK National Health Service decided to fund herceptin, including my herceptin, but I wouldn't have gotten it if I hadn't already been on it.

It might also be useful for people to know so they can be prepared for their copayments.

If I never need this combination then at least I will be well prepared for my old age.
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Old 05-03-2007, 06:21 AM   #15
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As someone who had to stop Herceptin before 12 months due to heart issues, I will be very interested in any side effects on the heart. Otherwise, this is wonderful news.
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Old 05-03-2007, 08:32 AM   #16
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Belinda

I believe there is a book sometimes available on Amazon about the making of herceptin, which chronicals the history of the discovery, the difficulties finding the right target population to treat (which almost stymied its development) and the parties involved (including Dr. Slamon, of course).

I believe Lily Samuels Tartikoff was terribly helpful in fund-raising (she got Revlon involved) for the early stages of the research.

I haven't read it myself to see how the ideas generated by Dr. Slamon got developed by Genentech into an approvable drug.

Anyone out there who read it?
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Old 05-03-2007, 10:14 AM   #17
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I read the book and the story is pretty amazing. Scary that Herceptin almost didn't get out of the development phase. One of the take-aways from the book was the power of the advocacy community-- they really rallied to get as many women as possible included in the adjuvent trials, with the well-founded hunch that the drug would be a wonder.

Given the premium that these drugs are commanding, I can imagine that the business development people are all to happy to take bets now on targeted therapy-- at the time Herceptin was developed, it really was out-of-the-box thinking.

Here's a link to the book:
http://www.amazon.com/Her-2-Making-H...8212264&sr=8-1

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Old 05-03-2007, 10:28 AM   #18
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I read it (twice) when I began my journey into the world of BC. The name of the book is HER-2: The making of Herceptin, a revolutionary treatment for Breast Cancer, written by Robert Bazell. I found it at my public library. Now with chemo brain in full mode it is hard for me to remember all the specifics but I will try to give a brief summary.

Lily Tartikoff was instrumental in securing the initial funding for Dr. Slamon’s research. He had treated her husband Brandon Tartikoff for Hodgkin’s disease and she was so grateful, that she made it her mission to get him the money he needed to move his research forward (he was having trouble getting funding). She approached the CEO of REVLON and challenged him to do more for women than just make lipstick. The fundraising “Fire & Ice Ball” and the Revlon Run/Walk for Women were a result of this challenge.

The book details the many years of research that went into the discovery of the HER-2 protein and the making of Herceptin. It also tells of how the pharmaceutical companies finally came on board. Most of all, it shows the relentless dedication and passion that Dr. Slamon put into this research, not to mention the brave women who participated in the initial trials.
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Tumor 2.2 cm, Stage II, Grade 3, Sentinel Node biopsy negative
ER+ (30%) /PR+ (50%), HER2+++
AC X 4 dose dense, Taxol X 4 dose dense
Herceptin started with 2nd Taxol, given weekly until chemo done
then given every 3 weeks for one year ending on March 16, 2007
Radiation 30 treatments
Tamoxifen - 2 yrs (pre-menopausal)
May 2008 - Feb 2012 Femara
Aug 2008 - Feb 2012 Zometa every 6 months
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Old 05-03-2007, 01:48 PM   #19
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Geri, Jen and Lani - thank you - am going to order the book. Seems like it's never to early to start organising. It's heartening the researchers are continuing their investigations - would be terrible if it ended ecause a PHD was successfully delivered. It's a pity their media release wasn't picked up properly.I am new to this but it seems a shame the big BC orgs aren't channelling the good news stories to the media (we see a lot of rubbish reported here - a couple of weeks ago their was a nonsense story about Neulasta being a new cure for C!).

Have passed on all of this info to an aussie bc forum - would be good ifus aussies could get involved early, we seem to be years behind you US girls in terms of trials and treatments.

Lets keep talking!

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  • Diagnosed 3 Jan 2007, Stage IIb, Mastectomy and axillary clearance 10 Jan 07, 6 of 19 nodes affected, multi-focal cancer, HER2 positive. Second mastectomy (prophylactic). Chemo - AC 3 months, Taxol 3 months - then radiation 5 weeks.
  • Aug 2011 - Diagnosed with Stage IV mets to lung, sternum and 12 or so thoracic nodes - Rads to Sternum, then weekly abraxane and herceptin for 12 weeks.
  • May 2012- good scans - all nodes still about normal size, hole in sternum repairing, lung tumour 'obliterated'.
    Ongoing herceptin every 3 weeks. Bloods still all good! Life good!
  • March 2013 - recurrence - tumours in lungs and mediastinum (coughing up blood) - immediate radiation treatment to right lung and mediastinum, still on Herceptin, and 3 months of Vinoralbine - stable for a little while!
  • Coughing and breathlessness started again September 2013, treated as radiation-induced fibrosis (which can be seen on scans - albeit stable). ie puffers, steroids
  • January 2014 - cough becomes bloody again, scans show big mediastinal tumour wrapped around and choking the life out of my right main bronchus, radiation deemed off limits as my lungs are hypersensitive to radiation (measured by existing damage from 2013) .....................- ie I am in the 5% of people likely to suffer severe radiation damage to the lungs that they warn you about before starting treatment! (so special! :) )
  • Started chemo Feb 2014 - continuing Herceptin (continuous since Aug 2011), with Carboplatin and Gemcitabine. Discontinued Gemcitabine because of se's. Starting cycle 5 Herc/Carbo 5 May 2014.
  • Meantime.....coughing and breathlessness increased to SCARY levels with racing heartbeat that won't slow down, breath that won't come back, even just walking to the bathroom or up 3 or 4 steps.
  • ICU from May 5 2014, collapsed right lung due to tumour, small pulmonary embolism (left), tumours growing in mediastinum left and right, dvt lower right leg
  • Plan seems to be bronchoscope next week to see if tumour can be lasered and stent inserted in right bronchus to reopen air access to lower parts of right lung. If that is successful might be able to have brachytherapy to worst tumour, otherwise no more options for external radiotherapy.
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Old 05-07-2007, 07:49 PM   #20
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Lani and all,

I simply cannot get this post out of my mind! Basically it seems so logical in principle to attack all possible pathways at once. I have always considered a cancer cell to be the equivallent of a 'pest' and the only way to deal with a pest is to go hard on it first time round, as to not allow it to develop resistance.

Anyhow, you said "for the activists among us, let's try to use our energies to help push this progress forward!". How can we push these things forward???? as mentioned in 2004 they had already published about the great results of combinaisons of drugs (either er+ or not the principle was already established) was working but nothing much was done since..<!-- / message -->

I have also noticed that unfortunatly that they may consider trial to take place for herceptin virgin only..does that mean that they would leave all of us behind! [how about lapatinib+gefinitib and pertuzumab]

I think that slowing the growth of cancer enough to allow your immune system to deal with it is the way forward.

I feel a need to get involved here.. So how can we push things forwards???
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Grade 3; ER/PR neg
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Aug 06: Stage IV
liver mets: 6 tumours
July 06 to Jan 07: 2*FEC+6*Taxotere; 3*TACE; LITT
March 07- Sept 07: Vaccination trial (phase 2, peptide based) at the UW (Seattle).
Herceptin since 2006
NED til Oct 09
Recurrence Oct 2009: to internal mammary gland since October 2009 missed on Oct and March 2010 scan.. palpable nodes in May 2010 when I realised..
Nov 2011:7 mets to lungs progressing fast failed hercp/tykerb/xeloda combo..

superior vena cava blocked: stent but face remains puffy

April 2012: Teresa Trial, randomised to TDM1
Nov 2012 progressing on TDM1
Dec 2012 blockage of my airways by tumours, obliteration of these blocking tumours breathing better but hoping for more- at mo too many tumours to count in the lungs and nodes.

Dec 2012 Starting new trial S-222611 phase 1b dual egfr her2+ inhibitor.



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