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Old 08-24-2012, 08:42 PM   #1
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zometa or reclast with no mets to bone?

I saw on several gals profiles that they are taking these and they don't have bone mets. Is that a new recommendation to prevent any mets? I do have osteopenia and tried taking boniva and had high fever with it.
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Dx August 2003 Stage 3B with 35/35 nodes IDC age 39
Lumpectomy
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:58 AM   #2
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Re: zometa or reclast with no mets to bone?

Michele;

I also have
osteopenia and just happened to have seen my specialist about this Friday. I have been off both arimidex and actonel since mid 2011 and commented that at the time I started actonel six year plus ago I was happy as it was rumored at that time to stop mets to the bones. She corrected me and said that a much more powerful drug is administered intravenously for that purpose. This I assume is zometa or reclast. So I guess the question is not "is there a drug available?" but "do I need to take this drug?". I was told that given the time I have been NED and given the aggressive nature of my cancer it was unlikely to return if it hadn't already. Perhaps this would be a good question for the Johns Hopkins seminar I just posted?

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Diagnosed Oct. 2004 3 cm ductal, lumpectomy Nov. 2004
Diagnosed Jan. 2005 tumor in supraclavicular node
Stage 3c, Grade 3, ER/PR+, Her2++
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May 2015 diagnosed with ovarian cancer
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Questions about the possibility of ovarian spread and mets to bones so will be tested and monitored for these.
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Old 08-25-2012, 03:51 PM   #3
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Re: zometa or reclast with no mets to bone?

Hi Michele,

I developed osteoporosis while on Femara (had osteopania before BC, osteoporosis runs in my family, my Mom and 2 maternal aunts have it). My oncologist agreed for me to see an endocronologist to have a Reclast infusion - double whammy they said, it would treat my osteoporosis and help prevent a recurrence.

I had the infusion, felt fine that day, but had a rough night and following day - despite taking Tylenol before, during and after the infusion. I was fine after a couple of days. My endocronologist said studies are showing the Reclast should stay in my system for about 18 months, so that is when I will get my next infusion.

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Old 08-25-2012, 04:24 PM   #4
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Re: zometa or reclast with no mets to bone?

I don't have bone mets and still take zometa because I'm on arimidex and slight osteop. I have not had a single side effect from the zometa. Either way I wish you well.
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:24 PM   #5
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Re: zometa or reclast with no mets to bone?

Yes... if you can avoid bone mets, avoid them. It might be an opportune time for you to try out denusomab. Just know that there is no known best treatment cycle for it or Zometa. I did every month for 6 months, and then every 3 months since then. I have been on it Zometa for 3 or 4 years I think... and it's stopped bone mets from occuring.
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JULY 2012 - 7 yr anniversary stage IV (of 50...)

Nov'03~ dX stage 2B
Dec'03~
Rt side mastectomy, Her2+, ER/PR+, 10 nodes out, one node positive
Jan'04~
Taxotere/Adria/Cytoxan x 6, NED, no Rads, Tamox. 1 year, Arimadex 3 mo., NED 14 mo.
Sept'05~
micro mets lungs/chest nodes/underarm node, Switched to Aromasin, T/C/H x 7, NED 6 months - Herceptin only
Aug'06~
micro mets chest nodes, & bone spot @ C3 neck, Added Taxol to Herceptin
Feb'07~ Genetic testing, BRCA 1&2 neg

Apr'07~
MRI - two 9mm brain mets & 5 punctates, new left chest met, & small increase of bone spot C3 neck, Stopped Aromasin
May'07~
Started Tykerb/Xeloda, no WBR for now
June'07~
MRI - stable brain mets, no new mets, 9mm spots less enhanced, CA15.3 down 45.5 to 9.3 in 10 wks, Ty/Xel working magic!
Aug'07~
MRI - brain mets shrunk half, NO NEW BRAIN METS!!, TMs stable @ 9.2
Oct'07~
PET/CT & MRI show NED
Apr'08~
scans still show NED in the head, small bone spot on right iliac crest (rear pelvic bone)
Sept'08~
MRI shows activity in brain mets, completed 5 fractions/5 consecutive days of IMRT to zap the pesky buggers
Oct'08~
dropped Xeloda, switched to tri-weekly Herceptin in combo with Tykerb, extend to tri-monthly Zometa infusion
Dec'08~
Brain MRI- 4 spots reduced to punctate size, large spot shrunk by 3mm, CT of torso clear/pelvis spot stable
June'09~
new 3-4mm left cerrebellar spot zapped with IMRT targeted rads
Sept'09~
new 6mm & 1 cm spots in pituitary/optic chiasm area. Rx= 25 days of 3D conformal fractionated targeted IMRT to the tumors.
Oct'09~
25 days of low dose 3D conformal fractionated targeted IMRT to the bone mets spot on rt. iliac crest that have been watching for 2 years. Added daily Aromasin back into treatment regimen.
Apr'10~ Brain MRI clear! But, see new small spot on adrenal gland. Change from Aromasin back to Tamoxifen.
June'10~ Tumor markers (CA15.3) dropped from 37 to 23 after one month on Tamoxifen. Continue to monitor adrenal gland spot. Remain on Tykerb/Herceptin/Tamoxifen.
Nov'10~ Radiate positive mediastinal node that was pressing on recurrent laryngeal nerve, causing paralyzed larynx and a funny voice.
Jan'11~ MRI shows possible activity or perhaps just scar tissue/necrotic increase on 3 previously treated brain spots and a pituitary spot. 5 days of IMRT on 4 spots.
Feb'11~ Enrolled in T-DM1 EAP in Denver, first treatment March 25, 2011.
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Old 08-26-2012, 01:09 PM   #6
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Re: zometa or reclast with no mets to bone?

Michele my Onc told me to begin once a year iv of Zometa after my last Dexa showed Osteopenia!
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Currently taking Arimidex..
June 2011 osteopenia/ zometa x1 yearly- stopped Zometa 2015 as Dexa show normal bone density.
Stopped Arimidex July 2014- Restarted Arimidex 2015 for a further two years on the advice of my Onc.
2014 Normal Dexa scan
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Old 08-26-2012, 02:21 PM   #7
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Re: zometa or reclast with no mets to bone?

I read up on Zometa and chose to go on it ( My Onc thankfully agreed). I did not have any side effects at all. But was aware of them.
I did Zometa for around 4 yrs every 6 mos. and now am going to Reclast once a year.
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Right partial mast & partial axillary dissection-June14,2005
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Left prophylactive mast( atypia & hyperplasia found ),
put on Tamoxifen x 1 yr; D/ced due to endometrial thickening
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