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Old 02-02-2008, 09:44 PM   #1
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Cool Acetaminophen/Tylenol

Hello All. Maybe this topic has been discussed here before, but I'm fairly new here, so I don't know. I wanted to post this on the newcomer's site, but I saw that I would be breaking the rules. I've never broken a rule, or a law, or raised my voice in anger in my life, so I didn't want to start now. To the point, many narcotics/pain-killers contain acetaminophen/Tylenol, which the liver has a very difficult time processing. My wife's onc. felt that acetaminophen should be taken off of the market. It's not always apparent which drugs are supplemented with ace./ Tylenol. Some drugs that contain ace.-Lortab, Vicodin, Zydone, Percocet, Roxicet, and most narcotics with the suffix "cet". Always check with your dr. and pharmacist regarding this. Have your onc. prescribe something with no ace. in it. Straight Hydrocodone or Oxycodone, as necessary, and then you can always supplement it with Ibuprofin for inflammation, as needed. I would like some of the "techies" on the site to comment here, please, and voice their opinions. Bill
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Old 02-03-2008, 05:03 PM   #2
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Interesting post, Bill, and I'm glad you are continuing stay on the straight and narrow! Tylenol is definitely tough on the liver, and if overdosed can cause liver failure. Ibuprofin is not benign, though - it also can be tough on the liver. My husband who is so healthy it makes ME sick had an elevated AST once and his doctor felt it was the ibuprofin which he takes for knee pain from running too much. Best to read all the fine print then be judicious with you take. And definitely check with the experts if you're using any serious pain meds!
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June 2002 extensive hi grade DCIS (pre-cancer-stage 0, clean sentinal node) Mastectomy/implant - no chemo, rads. "cured?"
9/2004 Diag: Stage IV extensive liver mets (!) ER/PR- Her2+++
10/04-3/05 Weekly Taxol/Carboplatin/Herceptin , complete response!
04/05 - 4/07 Herception every 3 wks, Continue NED
04/07 - recurrence to liver - 2 spots, starting tykerb/avastin trial
06/07 8/07 10/07 Scans show stable, continue on Tykerb/Avastin
01/08 Progression in liver
02/08 Begin (TDM1) trial
08/08 NED! It's Working! Continue on TDM1
02/09 Continue NED
02/10 Continue NED. 5/10 9/10 Scans NED 10/10 Scans NED
12/10 Scans not clear....4/11 Scans suggest progression 6/11 progression confirmed in liver
07/11 - 11/11 Herceptin/Xeloda -not working:(
12/11 Begin MM302 Phase I trial - bust:(
03/12 3rd times the charm? AKT trial

5/12 Scan shows reduction! 7/12 More reduction!!!!
8/12 Whoops...progression...trying for Perjeta/Herceptin (plus some more nasty chemo!)
9/12 Start Perjeta/Herceptin, chemo on hold due to infection/wound in leg, added on cycle 2 &3
11/12 Poops! progression in liver, Stop Perjeta/Taxo/Herc
11/12 Navelbine/Herce[ptin - try for a 3 cycles, no go.
2/13 Gemzar/Carbo/Herceptin - no go.
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Old 02-03-2008, 09:46 PM   #3
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Hey Chrisy! Thanks for keeping me in line. I guess I shouldn't recommend anything without checking first. I hope you're doing well. Been thinking about you. Love, Bill
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