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10-10-2007, 12:39 AM
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Hi Faux Gypsy,
Please see posts on this site about osteoporosis and omega three. There are a significant number of trials linking lack of omega threes as a factor in osteoporosis.
Juices can be high in sugar and add to digestive problems for some.
Omega threes - in OJ - It all helps but I would guess to get 1-2 grams DHA a day you are going to have to look at fish oil / oily fish, supplemented eggs or vegetarian supplements.
There are some links on this site on tamoxifen and side effects if of interest as part of your decision making process.
RB
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10-10-2007, 04:36 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Mississippi
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RB, I am interested in reading your book when it comes out. I laughed when I first saw the orange juice with the Omega threes in it and then I thoght why not try it. I don't really like orange juice (it does tend to bother my stomach) but it is the only thing that I can put that potassium elixir in and be able to drink it. I will read the posts on osteoporosis and O3's. I never expected osteoporosis to be a problem. the bone density scan results really surprised me. I will check out the supplemented eggs as well. Thanks again.
Leslie
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In the world of destiny, there are no statistics.
Jan. 26- mammogram and ultrasound- suspicious lump
Mid-February- lumpectomy, infiltrating ductal carcinoma ~4.5 cm and a 1 cm DCIS, did not get clear margins, did not check lymph nodes
ER+/PR+, her2 +++, nuclear grade 3 of 3
February 20-PET scan showed something on liver. No biopsy.
March- Started carboplatin, herceptin, taxol on a four week cycle
May 3- Pet scan, with intent to do a biopsy, found nothing, liver or breast- no biopsy because there is nothing to biopsy
June 21- new onc, very concerned that there had been no biopsy,
June 18th-CAT scan, bone scan-negative
August 7th - Brain MRI-negative
August 9th- mastectomy, all pathology negative
January 2008 still NED! New oncologist -herceptin for full year after chemo- until July, and tamoxifen---negative scans since May '07
July 2008-Finished Herceptin!
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10-10-2007, 04:58 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Misty woods of WA State
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Omega 3's
Hi Leslie -
It does take some work to find a way to balance your omegas. One of the changes I made so hubby can also benefit are the "supplemented" eggs R.B. mentioned. There are usually 2 or 3 choices now in the better supermarkets. Even Safeway offers them.
There is even one with Lutein (good for our eyes) added in as well.
Cost is a little more, but we don't eat them every day so it is worth it for 2 of us. The supplemented eggs are often from free range chickens and vegetarian fed.
I found that after starting flax oil caplets (we use high lignan Barleens), my joint pains let up. Also, have you tried taking Glucosimine with Chondroitan for your joints. This compound strengthens ligamants and tendons and helps improve joint function. I used it for years and seem to get away without it now.
Good luck with finding a way to continue your Herceptin and finding a new med onc. Or at least a higher profile one that you can go to for second opinions.
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"When I hear music, I fear no danger. I am invulnerable. I see no foe. I am related to the earliest times, and to the latest." H.D. Thoreau
Live in the moment.
MY STORY SO FAR ~~~~
Found suspicious lump 9/2000
Lumpectomy, then node dissection and port placement
Stage IIB, 8 pos nodes of 18, Grade 3, ER & PR -
Adriamycin 12 weekly, taxotere 4 rounds
36 rads - very little burning
3 mos after rads liver full of tumors, Stage IV Jan 2002, one spot on sternum
Weekly Taxol, Navelbine, Herceptin for 27 rounds to NED!
2003 & 2004 no active disease - 3 weekly Herceptin + Zometa
Jan 2005 two mets to brain - Gamma Knife on Jan 18
All clear until treated cerebellum spot showing activity on Jan 2006 brain MRI & brain PET
Brain surgery on Feb 9, 2006 - no cancer, 100% radiation necrosis - tumor was still dying
Continue as NED while on Herceptin & quarterly Zometa
Fall-2006 - off Zometa - watching one small brain spot (scar?)
2007 - spot/scar in brain stable - finished anticoagulation therapy for clot along my port-a-catheter - 3 angioplasties to unblock vena cava
2008 - Brain and body still NED! Port removed and scans in Dec.
Dec 2008 - stop Herceptin - Vaccine Trial at U of W begun in Oct. of 2011
STILL NED everywhere in Feb 2014 - on wing & prayer
7/14 - Started twice yearly Zometa for my bones
Jan. 2015 checkup still shows NED
2015 Neuropathy in feet - otherwise all OK - still NED.
Same news for 2016 and all of 2017.
Nov of 2017 - had small skin cancer removed from my face. Will have Zometa end of Jan. 2018.
Last edited by StephN; 10-10-2007 at 10:21 AM..
Reason: too early!
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10-23-2007, 03:34 PM
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#24
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,843
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More links between omega three deficit and bipolar
http://www.nature.com/mp/journal/v12.../4001887a.html
Dietary n-3 PUFA deprivation alters expression of enzymes of the arachidonic and docosahexaenoic acid cascades in rat frontal cortex
J S Rao1, R N Ertley1, J C DeMar Jr1, S I Rapoport1, R P Bazinet1 and H-J Lee1
Abstract
"The finding that n-3 PUFA deprivation increases cPLA2, sPLA2 and COX-2 is opposite to what has been reported after chronic administration of anti-manic agents to rats and suggests that n-3 PUFA deprivation may increase susceptibility to bipolar disorder." |
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10-23-2007, 03:44 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 600
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Hi y'all, ; )I have been working at getting more omega threes into my diet. I don't at many eggs but that is one of the things I am adding. I am feeling much better now, I changed from the Femara to tamoxifen and am gettiing back to normal. I crashed for a few days, just worn out from it all. I am changing oncologists at the moment and have not talked with him in depth about this but I feel much more confident in being able to discuss things with him. Leslie
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In the world of destiny, there are no statistics.
Jan. 26- mammogram and ultrasound- suspicious lump
Mid-February- lumpectomy, infiltrating ductal carcinoma ~4.5 cm and a 1 cm DCIS, did not get clear margins, did not check lymph nodes
ER+/PR+, her2 +++, nuclear grade 3 of 3
February 20-PET scan showed something on liver. No biopsy.
March- Started carboplatin, herceptin, taxol on a four week cycle
May 3- Pet scan, with intent to do a biopsy, found nothing, liver or breast- no biopsy because there is nothing to biopsy
June 21- new onc, very concerned that there had been no biopsy,
June 18th-CAT scan, bone scan-negative
August 7th - Brain MRI-negative
August 9th- mastectomy, all pathology negative
January 2008 still NED! New oncologist -herceptin for full year after chemo- until July, and tamoxifen---negative scans since May '07
July 2008-Finished Herceptin!
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