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		 As far as I know, all is well here, too. 
  
Now two and a half years out, having received neither chemo nor herceptin for my tiny borderline HER2+/ER+/PR+ tumour. 
  
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			05-10-2008, 12:25 PM
			
							
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		 I am thinking that if I had had mastectomy, I wouldn't have had the local/regional recurrence (caused by not getting enough margin in 2003)  And back then my chemo was FEC - no Herceptin.    I'll know Monday how my PET scan last Thursday looks like. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			05-18-2008, 11:18 AM
			
							
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		 It seems like many(most?) of the women here who didn't do Herceptin and have no recurrence were ER+ or PR+. I wonder how important that is to not recurring. 
 
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Stage I - DX 9/2005 ER/PR-, HER2+, grade 3, DCIS, IDC multi-focal (1.05cm) 
 DD 4 A/C finished Jan 31, 2006 
Herceptin weekly finished Jan 31, 2007 
recurrence to chest wall on last month of Herceptin 
Stage 3B - 3/15/07 - 2 carcinomas in dermal lymphatic 
Rads finished 6/5/07 
12x TH finished 9/10/07 
12/07 - Clear scan! 
3/08 - 4 month Melatonin trial 
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			05-18-2008, 05:29 PM
			
							
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		Just to balance it out, I'll report in as ERPR negative, stage III, no Herceptin, still here without recurrence 7 years later.  See signature.   
 
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 4/01 ~ Bilateral mastectomies (LMRM, R simple) - 1.2cm IDC was found at pathology.  
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 ERPR 5%/1% (re-done later at Baylor, both negative at zero).  
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			05-20-2008, 12:05 PM
			
							
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		 I was DX Nov. 2000 at 49 yrs old. 1 1/2 cm. ER+ HER2+ (weakly) Nod. neg. lumpectomy, 2-CMF, 4-AC, 28 rad. 9 months Tamoxifen, 3yrs Arimidex. No Hereceptin (wasn't available) I haven't seen Onc. in 2 yrs. but I am feeling great. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
						  
				
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		 I started this thread a year ago, and am still fine! Thank you to all who have replied. You've made me feel less alone on this forum where most seem to have (had) access to Herceptin, Tykerb and several trials.  
 
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		I'm wondering why you don't see the oncologist?  I did not have herceptin as it wasn't available....5 years later so far so good, but I see the onc every 3 months.... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		Glad to hear that...I hope you never feel alone in this forum.  Many of us did not have access to Herceptin when diagnosed early stage (I was diagnosed 2A 5 years ago).  I always felt I was missing something, but I know I can have it as a second line of defense if and when needed.  Take care of yourself! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Just to re-affirm my NED status.  Another year. 
  
I asked my onc last week during the six month check up, whether my understanding of the recurrence rate versus time from first cancer discovery is getting lower after 18 to 24 month.  He said that this was considered to be correct in the past.  But a recent article showed that there is no reduced recurrence rate.  He could not give me a more precise info on where this article is.  If any of you happens to know, please post it. 
  
That was a disturbing news for me.  Otherwise, all are well. 
  
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Stage 1 dx Sept 05 
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Postmenopause. Arimidex only since Sept 06, bone or muscle ache after 3 month 
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		 Do NOT think of survivorship as time (ie: 18 months, 4 yrs etc), think of it as the journey of your life.  Who cares if we have to wait 20 yrs to be deemed "cured".  Are you really willing to wait 20 yrs of worry to think that cancer won't come back?  And then what, a different disease condition?  Nobody knows recurrence rates because 10 yrs ago there wasn't Aromatase inhibitors, taxanes, AC, dense dose, weekly treatment, TCH, Herceptin, Tykerb, Avastin, Tarceva, Sutent, Pertuzamab, vaccines, Imprexa, Gemzar, etc.   So you see, what will it be in 10 yrs from now - 2 yrs from now?  And, Herceptin (early) helps - but not everyone needs it to do well - not at all.  Get your walking shoes on! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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Found lump via BSE 
Diagnosed 8/04 at age 45 
1.9cm tumor, ER+PR-, Her2 3+(rt side) 
2 micromets to sentinel node 
Stage 2A 
left 3mm DCIS - low grade ER+PR+Her2 neg 
lumpectomies 9/7/04 
4DD AC followed by 4 DD taxol 
Used Leukine instead of Neulasta 
35 rads on right side only 
4/05 started Tamoxifen 
Started Herceptin 4 months after last Taxol due to 
trial results and 2005 ASCO meeting & recommendations 
Oophorectomy 8/05 
Started Arimidex 9/05 
Finished Herceptin (16 months) 9/06 
Arimidex Only 
Prolia every 6 months for osteopenia 
  
NED 18 years! 
  
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		I'm not sure how old this info is, and it seems to come from a pharmaceutical company, but it does address the issue of recurrence:  
http://www.lifeabc.org/risk_recurrence.html
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		 CLTann, 
  
From what I have read, ER+ bc has a 2% per year risk of recurrence, that is additive each year, i.e., a person surviving 10 years has a 20% chance at that point. The risk of ER+ bc returning never goes away. Evidence from delayed hormone therapy trials and extended therapy trials has been positive to date, showing that hormone therapy can reduce this risk. ER- patients do have a drop off of recurrence after 5 years, which declines until 10 years, when the ER+ and ER- recurrence rates cross. The information was in the last quinquennial meeting results from the Early Breast Cancer Trialist Collaborative Group. This information, however, did NOT address Her2 positivity OR Herceptin - two variables that are very important to the outcome. I would not expect to see those kinds of statistics for quite some time. 
  
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				I chose not to take herceptin
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
		because back in early 2002 it was a trial and when I read and researched herceptin I was concerned about the number of people who took herceptin and then had brain mets as their first recurrence site. Also, the heart factor wasn't clearly understood back then, plus I didn't want to continue treatment for a full year after completing my standard chemo - it just seemed like enough is enough! 
 
I'm fine with my decision as I'm now over 6 years out and doing fine. I did the UW vaccine trial in 2004 (which I wouldn't have qualified for if I'd had herceptin) plus I recently completed the tykerb/placebo trial (which I also wouldn't have qualified for if I'd had herceptin) - so it's an individual decision, oh and I'm also er/pr-ve. 
 
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