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Old 02-24-2012, 11:32 AM   #1
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Node Testing

Michka

The fact that your doctor would like a biopsy of a node is a positive step in the right direction, instead of more trial-and-error treatment. Tumor hormone-receptor and Her2 status can change in breast cancer patients during the course of their disease, and these changes can significantly influence survival and can completely change the patient's clinical management. Results of a 2011 European Multidisciplinary Cancer Congress study showed that there is substantial tumor instability during tumor progression.

How and what type of chemo test your doc has in mind, may have some bearing in the matter. The slides from your last liver resection may not have any affect in testing on what may be your disease now. There is the issue about cell-lines (slides) vs fresh cells. Cell-lines have always played an important role in drug screening and drug development. The problem is that cell-lines do not predict for disease or patient specific drug effects.

As a general rule, studies from established cell-lines (tumor cells that are cultured and maniplated so that they continue to divide) have not be very successful as models to predict the activity of drugs in cancer. An established cell-line is not reflective of the behavior of fresh "live" tumor samples (like from the node) in primary culture, much less in the patient. You will get different results when you test passaged cells (from cell-lines) compared to primary, fresh tumor.

My thoughts would be, do you want to utilize your tissue specimen for drug selection against your "individual" cancer cells or for mutation identification to see if you are "potentially" susceptible to a certain mechanism of attack?

Best of luck!

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Old 02-24-2012, 04:51 PM   #2
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Re: Bad Pet. I need you.

Dear Michka -
We are not happy to hear that you have those new issues to deal with. But I do like the fact that your onc wants another scan (what kind?) next week to coroborate this last one that is throwing you for a loop.

Was also thinking about a biopsy since you may have some tissue that can be gotten at for analysis. I imagine he would want the slide from your liver to compare with a new tumor biology.

There are many ways to go at these tumors, just as soon as your doctor is sure about what the scans say.

If you try for T-DM1 before you have had some other drugs, it may disqualify you from their use in future. Try to check the drug ladder for the new drugs and trials.

Certainly you feel bad for causing pain to those closest to you, but they are there for you and know that you have been fighting the NERDy cancer with all you have.

Hugs and bises.
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Found suspicious lump 9/2000
Lumpectomy, then node dissection and port placement
Stage IIB, 8 pos nodes of 18, Grade 3, ER & PR -
Adriamycin 12 weekly, taxotere 4 rounds
36 rads - very little burning
3 mos after rads liver full of tumors, Stage IV Jan 2002, one spot on sternum
Weekly Taxol, Navelbine, Herceptin for 27 rounds to NED!
2003 & 2004 no active disease - 3 weekly Herceptin + Zometa
Jan 2005 two mets to brain - Gamma Knife on Jan 18
All clear until treated cerebellum spot showing activity on Jan 2006 brain MRI & brain PET
Brain surgery on Feb 9, 2006 - no cancer, 100% radiation necrosis - tumor was still dying
Continue as NED while on Herceptin & quarterly Zometa
Fall-2006 - off Zometa - watching one small brain spot (scar?)
2007 - spot/scar in brain stable - finished anticoagulation therapy for clot along my port-a-catheter - 3 angioplasties to unblock vena cava
2008 - Brain and body still NED! Port removed and scans in Dec.
Dec 2008 - stop Herceptin - Vaccine Trial at U of W begun in Oct. of 2011
STILL NED everywhere in Feb 2014 - on wing & prayer
7/14 - Started twice yearly Zometa for my bones
Jan. 2015 checkup still shows NED
2015 Neuropathy in feet - otherwise all OK - still NED.
Same news for 2016 and all of 2017.
Nov of 2017 - had small skin cancer removed from my face. Will have Zometa end of Jan. 2018.

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