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02-22-2007, 02:20 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Colorado
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Hang in there - it DOES get better
Lisa had her treatments every Thursday (herceptin + something for over three years). We used to joke about her lost days... She'd be "knocked out" the rest of Thursday (usually due to Benadrylt/Tylenol) then she'd feel good on Friday and overdo it (please DO NOT overdo it - just rest and heal) and then we'd "lose her" on Saturday and/or Sunday - a day spent 100% in bed. At first it was a miserable day - but over time - she'd "feel" better. Eventually we realized it was just a day of rest. To be honest I really got used to "resting" with her on weekends - but Sundays are football/NASCAR days so I'd always get up first! Tell hubby to snuggle up!
Remember - REST IS HEALING and never fell like your getting too much rest. This hurdle will pass - promise.
Love and Light
Mel
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02-22-2007, 07:14 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Morris, IL
Posts: 3,507
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KelleyAfter being on Herceptin 3 1/2 years, I can tell you that fluids are so important....I have never been a water drinker but on Herceptin, especially the day of treatment and a few days off, I drink like a sailor...water that is...it seems to help dissipate the effects....hope this helps!
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Hugs & Blessings
Sheila
Diagnosed at age 49.99999 2/21/2002 via Mammography (Calcifications)
Core Biopsy 2/22/02
L. Mastectomy 2/25/2002
Stage 1, 0.7cm IDC, Node Neg from 19 nodes Her2+++ ER PR Neg
6/2003 Reconstruction W/ Tissue Expander, Silicone Implant
9/2003 Stage IV with Mets to Supraclavicular nodes
9/2003 Began Herceptin every 3 weeks
3/2006 Xeloda 2500mg/Herceptin for recurrence to neck nodes
3/2007 Added back the Xeloda with Herceptin for continued mets to nodes
5/2007 Taken Off Xeloda, no longer working
6/14/07 Taxol/Herceptin/Avastin
3/26 - 5/28/08 Taxol Holiday Whopeeeeeeeee
5/29 2008 Back on Taxol w Herceptin q 2 weeks
4/2009 Progression on Taxol & Paralyzed L Vocal Cord from Nodes Pressing on Nerve
5/2009 Begin Rx with Navelbine/Herceptin
11/09 Progression on Navelbine
Fought for and started Tykerb/Herceptin...nodes are melting!!!!!
2/2010 Back to Avastin/Herceptin
5/2010 Switched to Metronomic Chemo with Herceptin...Cytoxan and Methotrexate
Pericardial Window Surgery to Drain Pericardial Effusion
7/2010 Back to walking a mile a day...YEAH!!!!
9/2010 Nodes are back with a vengence in neck
Qualified for TDM-1 EAP
10/6/10 Begin my miracle drug, TDM-1
Mixed response, shrinking internal nodes, progression skin mets after 3 treatments
12/6/10 Started Halaven (Eribulen) /Herceptin excellent results in 2 treatments
2/2011 I CELEBRATE my 9 YEAR MARK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
7/5/11 begin Gemzar /Herceptin for node progression
2/8/2012 Gemzar stopped, Continue Herceptin
2/20/2012 Begin Tomo Radiation to Neck Nodes
2/21/2012 I CELEBRATE 10 YEARS
5/12/2012 BeganTaxotere/ Herceptin is my next miracle for new node progression
6/28/12 Stopped Taxotere due to pregression, Started Perjeta/Herceptin
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02-22-2007, 09:43 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Naples FL
Posts: 1,744
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I had terrible joint and muscle pain while on herceptin...drinking water does help. If it is any consolation...I am 4 months out from my last treatment and the aches and pains are becoming a thing of the past! Hang in there!!!
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![](signaturepics/sigpic159_1.gif) Suzan W.
age 54 at diagnosis
5/05 suspicious mammogram-left breast
5/05 biopsy-invasive lobular carcinoma with LCIS,8mm tumor,stage 1 grade 2, ER+ PR+ Her2+++
6/14/05 bilateral mastectomy, node neg. all scans neg.
Oncotype DX-high risk
8/05-10/05 4 rounds A/C
10/05 -10/06 1 yr. herceptin
arimidex-5 years
2/14/08 started daily self administered injections..FORTEO for severe osteoporosis
7/28/09 BRCA 1 negative BRCA2 POSITIVE
8/17/09 prophylactic salpingo-oophorectomy
10/15/10 last FORTEOinjection
RECLAST infusion(ostoeporosis)
6/14/10 5 year cancerversary!
8/2010-18%increase in bone density!
no further treatments
Oncologist says, "Go do the Happy Dance"
I say,"What a long strange trip its been"
'One day at a time'
6-14-2015. 10 YEAR CANCERVERSARY!
7-16 to 9-16. Extensive (and expensive) dental work done to save teeth. Damage from osteoporosis and chemo and long term bisphosphonate use
6-14-16. 11 YEAR CANCERVERSARY!!
7-20-16 Prolia injection for severe osteoporosis
2 days later, massive hive outbreak. This led to an eventual dx of Chronic Ideopathic Urticaria, an auto-immune disease from HELL.
6-14-17 12 YEAR CANCERVERSARY!!
still suffering from CIU. 4 hospitilizations in the past year
as of today, 10-31-17 in remission from CIU and still, CANCER FREE!!!
6-14-18 13 YEAR CANCERVERSARY!! NED!!
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02-22-2007, 10:15 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: South Dakota.
Posts: 621
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Kelly, Do you suppose you could skip a week and see how you feel during that off week? Herceptin stays in your system for a while, (not sure how long...it seems like a couple of months maybe) so perhaps a week off wouldn't hurt anything and you could get a bit of a break.
I took "late" herceptin with odds and ends of side effects, but nausia was not one of them. There was a little bit of diarrhea at first, but my body adjusted to "normal" stools...I've always had constipation issues, so the herceptin seemed to even that out a little.
I've had aches and discomfort here and there all over my body since beginning chemo, (especially in the ribs) so it's hard to know what caused what. I empathize with you and your wandering mind. So does mine, all the time.
I do feel it's a good idea to take Co Q10 while taking herceptin which gives the heart a boost. I even continued with it after finishing herceptin.
Hope you get to feeling better.
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Blessings and Peace,
Barbara
DX Oct 02 @ age 52 Stage 2B Grade 3 Mastectomy
"at least" 4.5 cm IDC 1+node ER+61% /PR-
Assiciated Intraductual component with Comedo Necrosis
Her2+ FISH8.6 IHC 2+
5 1/2 CEF Arimidex
Celebrex 400mg daily for 13 months
Prophylactic mastectomy
Estradiol #: 13
PTEN positive, "late" Herceptin (26 months after chemo)
Oct 05: Actonel for osteopenia from Arimidex.
May 08: Replaced Actonel with Zometa . Taking every 6
months.
Accepting the gift of life, I give thanks for it and live it in fullness.
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02-22-2007, 10:20 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2006
Location: northshore suburb of chicago
Posts: 1,093
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Hi Kelly, I too do not feel as good as I use to since starting Herceptin, but I will say, I feel much better than I did while going through chemo. I have had headaches, aches and pains, nausea, diahrrea, skin cracking and nail problems. I also still struggle with fatigue. I just can't keep going like I use to. To me it feels like it has gotten worse with each treatment. I have been getting Herceptin since late August every 3 weeks. I just tell myself, it will all be worth it if it keeps the cancer from recurring or metastasizing. Hang in there Kelly, you are not alone in how you are feeling. Ask the doctor what else he might recommend for each and every side effect you have and use the recommendations.
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~Rina~
Dx:3/06 had a lumpectomy April 19, 2006
Her2+ er/pr- Stage I Grade 3 tumor size 1.4 cm, node negative
AC 4 dense doses
34 radiation treatments including booster doses
receiving herceptin every 3 weeks since late August 2006 for 12 months
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02-22-2007, 12:41 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 45
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have you tried steroids
They give me steroids the day before treatment, during treatment and the day after treatment. It really has helped me but I hate the weight gain from them. I am going to try herceptin tomorrow without bendryl because the bendryl has started making me so hyper that I can't even sit still in the chair after they give it too me.
Hope you are feeling better soon.
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Hugs and Smiles,
Angela - NC
Dx May 2003 at age 39
Lt mastectomy, no nodes
DCIS, PR- ER- Her+++
4 rounds AC
Recurrence Dec 2006 Rt lung
2/07 - 3 Brain mets - Radiation
3/07 - Carboplatin and Herceptin
8/07- mets stable. Finished Carboplatin-remain on Herceptin
12/07 - Herceptin only
5/08 - Lung mets grew - tykerb and Navilbene. Reaction to Tykerb -9/08 Herceptin again
12/08 - Lung mets growing - xeloda.
8/09 - Given Zometa for precaution
10/09 - Lung mets back plus new ones. - Put back on Xeloda.
1/10 – Began short-term disability
2/10 –Lung mets growing - Gemzar
9/2010 – Scan show tumors in lungs growing. Put on Ixempra (every 3 weeks). MRI of the brain showed a brain bleed but it had stopped bleeding.
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02-22-2007, 12:42 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Sheboygan, WI
Posts: 2,582
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Hi Kelly,
So sorry to hear that you are feeling so poorly on the herceptin. And you surely aren't complaining - just stating facts (as I always say to my husband) :-) It's no fun when we feel lousy and after being given a cancer diagnosis I think we scare easily also. Always looking at this or that and why this and why that or what if this or what if that. It truly can be depressing and frustrating many times.
Like another one of the "posters" here said I, too, have had more aches and pains that I've ever had in my life since chemo and herceptin. And, like her I suffer much over in the left rib/side area. No rhyme or reason to it and everytime I think it's gone or at least considerably better - whamo - it is back. I had a Pet/Ct scan the end of December and nothing showed up over their. So, I'm thinking it's all effects/damage from chemo/herceptin.
Keep your chin up and here's a HUGE CYBER HUG from me to you.
God Bless you with Peace,
Mary Jo
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"Be still and know that I am God." Psalm 46:10
Dx. 6/24/05 age 45 Right Breast IDC ER/PR. Neg., - Her2+++ RB Mast. - 7/28/05 - 4 cm. tumor Margins clear - 1 microscopic cell 1 sent. node No Vasucular Invasion 4 DD A/C - 4 DD Taxol & Herceptin 1 full year of Herceptin received every 3 weeks 28 rads prophylactic Mast. 3/2/06
17 Years NED
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02-23-2007, 06:12 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Hilton Head Island, SC
Posts: 279
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hi Kelly, I didn't feel as bad as you at all but... I can relate to feeling lousy. My reaction to Taxol was so bad I decided it wasn't worth it to me. Didn't you say that your Onc was open to giving you Tykerb? Maybe it would be a good alternative therapy - just a thought. I ache now AFTER the herceptin therapy is over and all I can point to is the Femara. But it really isn't bad enough to stop treatment. I just wonder what it is attributable to... is it a delayed response or who knows really? We have so much going on! Feeling good is important to life - especially for a young mom like yourself. Don't settle if there is another path you can take.
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Kim
Diagnosed 7/05
Stage 3a er+(45%) pr+(68%) Her2+ (40%)
3.8 cm + .8cm multi focal - pleomorphic lobular tumors
high grade DCIS
7/20 nodes
BRCA 2 positive as of 5/07
surgeries: double mastectomy, hysterectomy (LAVH)
A/C,Herceptin for 1 year completed 11/06
femara
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02-23-2007, 11:25 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 543
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Kelly,
Did you try these two changes which have helped some ![Big Grin](http://her2support.org/vbulletin/images/smilies/biggrin.gif) ecadron instead of Benedryl as a premed & doubling (if not more) the infusion time?
In extreme cases where patients were requiring emergency treatment upon accute immediate reaction to Herceptin, oncs prescribed up to 8 hours long IV's to overcome the problem.
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