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Old 06-16-2015, 02:02 PM   #1
Mtngrl
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Re: Cancer and Trauma

An update:

I tried to talk about cancer and trauma in my in-person support group yesterday. To my very great surprise, the facilitator interrupted me twice to deflect what I was saying. I didn't get the hint the first time, so she was more direct the second time, saying that while what I was saying was "interesting" it was "beside the point." Clearly, I was being silenced. She's the boss, and I'm sure she had her reasons, and I obeyed her.

In four years I've never seen her do that to anyone. I could have been talking about horse racing or a soup recipe or a fight with my sister or how one of my friends never calls anymore, and she would have let me drone on awhile, and then might have gently redirected the conversation or asked someone else for suggestions on whatever my issue was. I've never seen her just silence someone.

Maybe she thought I was saying childhood trauma "causes" cancer. I wasn't saying that. But it is an established scientific fact that trauma and stress suppress the immune system. It's also known that survivors of "complex developmental trauma" are more likely to engage in risky or unhealthy behaviors and also to suffer major illnesses. Epidemiologically, there is an empirically-validated link between harmful childhoods and early death. It's like the link between cancer and smoking. That was noticed and people finally said, "Hey, people shouldn't smoke; it's killing them!" Then they said, "Hey, second hand smoke is bad for nonsmokers; it's killing them." Smoking rates declined dramatically and so did smoking-related illnesses. But we know that trauma kills (and costs billions of dollars to mop up after), but it's almost completely absent from medical practice and public health policy.

I think it should be addressed upfront in standard cancer care. But since it isn't, and I have Stage IV cancer, I'm working on it on my own.

The things she prevented me from saying are, 1) A human mind, body, and emotions are an integrated system. Make any one aspect of the system function better and everything will improve and, 2) It is possible right now with tested interventions to heal from trauma. Van der Kolk's and Siegel's books both have wonderful stories of people finding peace, love, and happiness with appropriate therapy, even people who were very, very damaged. Since cancer treatment is traumatic in and of itself, we are all unquestionably experiencing trauma.

David Servan-Schreiber dealt with this to some extent in his book, Anti-Cancer; A New Way of Life. He talked about diet and exercise, but he also talked about getting a healthier mind and nervous system. He speculated that there might be a "cancer personality." There isn't, but there are behaviors that can increase inflammation and suppress immune response. Likewise, there are behavioral modifications that can repair the damage caused by stress and trauma.

I'm not selling anything. And I'm not oversimplifying or sprinkling fairy dust. But I think this is important.
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4/19/11 Diagnosed invasive ductal carcinoma in left breast; 2.3 cm tumor, 1 axillary lymph node, weakly ER+, HER2+++
4/29/11 CT scan shows suspicious lesions on liver and lungs
5/17/11 liver biopsy
5/24/11 liver met confirmed--Stage IV at diagnosis
5/27/11 Begin weekly Taxol & Herceptin for 3 months (standard of care at the time of my DX)
7/18/11 Switch to weekly Abraxane & Herceptin due to Taxol allergy
8/29/11 CT scan shows no new lesions & old lesions shrinking
9/27/11 Finish Abraxane. Start Herceptin every 3 weeks. Begin taking Arimidex
10/17/11--Brain MRI--No Brain mets
12/5/11 PET scan--Almost NED
5/15/12 PET scan shows progression-breast/chest/spine (one vertebra)
5/22/12 Stop taking Arimidex; stay on Herceptin
6/11/12 Started Tykerb and Herceptin on clinical trial (w/no chemo)
9/24/12 CT scan--No new mets. Everything stable.
3/11/13 CT Scan--two small new possible mets and odd looking area in left lung getting larger.
4/2/13--Biopsy of suspicious area in lower left lung. Mets to lung confirmed.
4/30/13 Begin Kadcyla/TDM-1
8/16/13 PET scan "mixed," with some areas of increased uptake, but also some definite improvement, so I'll stay on TDM-1/Kadcyla.
11/11/13 Finally get hormone receptor results from lung biopsy of 4/2/13. My cancer is no longer ER positive.
11/13/13 PET scan mixed results again. We're calling it "stable." Problems breathing on exertion.
2/18/14 PET scan shows a new lesion and newly active lymph node in chest, other progression. Bye bye TDM-1.
2/28/14 Begin Herceptin/Perjeta every 3 weeks.
6/8/14 PET "mixed," with no new lesions, and everything but lower lungs improving. My breathing is better.
8/18/14 PET "mixed" again. Upper lungs & one spine met stable, lower lungs less FDG avid, original tumor more avid, one lymph node in mediastinum more avid.
9/1/14 Begin taking Xeloda one week on, one week off. Will also stay on Herceptin and Perjeta every three weeks.
12/11/14 PET Scan--no new lesions, and everything looks better than it did.
3/20/15 PET Scan--no new lesions, but lower lung lesions larger and a bit more avid.
4/13/15 Increasing Xeloda dose to 10 days on, one week off.
7/1/15 Scan "mixed" again, but suggests continuing progression. Stop Xeloda. Substitute Abraxane every 3 weeks starting 7/13.
10/28/15 PET scan shows dramatic improvement everywhere. All lesions except lower lungs have resolved; lower lungs noticeably improved.
12/18/15 Last Abraxane. Continue on Herceptin and Perjeta alone beginning 1/8/16.
1/27/16 PET scan shows cancer is stable.
5/11/16 PET scan shows uptake in some areas that were resolved on the last two scans.
6/3/16 Begin Kadcyla and Tykerb combination
6/5 - 6/23 Horrible diarrhea from K&T together. Got pneumonia.
7/15/16 Begin Kadcyla only every 3 weeks.
9/6/16 Begin radiation therapy on right lung lesion that caused the pneumonia.
10/3/16 Last of 12 radiation treatments to right lung.
11/4/16 Huffing and puffing, low O2, high heart rate, on tiniest bit of exertion. Diagnosed as radiation pneumonitis. Treated with Prednisone.
11/11/16 PET scan shows significant improvement to radiated part of right lung BUT a bunch of new lung lesions, and the bone met is getting worse.
11/22/16 Begin Eribulin and Herceptin. H every 3 weeks. E two weeks on, one week off.
3/6/17 Scan shows progression in lungs. Bone met a little better.
3/23/17 Lung biopsy. Tumor sampled is ER-, PR+ (5%), HER2+++. Getting Herceptin and Perjeta as a maintenance treatment.
5/31/17 Port placement
6/1/17 Start Navelbine & Tykerb
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Old 06-17-2015, 10:16 PM   #2
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Re: Cancer and Trauma

God bless you Amy for your soul, your intellect, your kindness. I could do with a dose of Amy, re all things ...even unrelated to cancer! People misunderstanding me/cutting me off before I can finish an advanced thought/predetermining the point I'm making, etc. have just soured me, in general on discussion with any but my best friend.

I started out life all hopped up and enthused on education and discussion, and have found less and less spiritual growth the more I engage with others. I'm much happier with my dog pack everyday, and walks with my best friend. I am completely sure the horrible stress I went through in my adult life lessened my immune system to open the gates for my cancer. Doesn't matter though. I believe genetic fate is determinant. Still, I hold out hope for other women coming up that they will be less stressed/more assertive in getting out of stress earlier than I did.

I love being lured back into hopeful spiritual engagement with others when I read your excellent writing. I could do with you putting all your posts together in a single blog. Twould feed my soul!
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fall 2008: mammo of rt breast worrisome so am asked to redo mammo and have ultrasound of rt breast.I delay it til january 2009 and the results are "no cancer in rt breast. phew."
found plum sized lump in right breast the day before my dad died: April 17th 2011. saw it in mirror, while i was wearing a top, examining my figure after losing 10 lbs on dr. bernstein diet.
diagnosed may 10 2011

mast/lymphectomy: june 7 2011, 5/20 cancerous nodes. stage 3a before radiation oncologist during our first mtg on july 15th says he found cancer on the lymph node of my breast bone. Now stage 3b.
her2+++, EN-, PN-. Rt brst tumors:3 at onset, 4.5 cm was the big one
chemos: 3fec's followed by 3 taxotere, total of 18 wks chemo. sept: halfway thru chemo the mastectomy scar decides to open and ooze pus. (not healed before chemo) eventually with canasten powder sent by friend in ny (illegal in canada) it heals.
radiations:although scheduled to begin 25 january 2012, I am so terrified by it (rads cause other cancers) I don't start til february, miss a bunch, reschedule them all and finally finish 35 rads mid april. reason for 7 extra atop the 28 scheduled is that when i first met my rads oncologist he said he saw a tumor on the lymph node of my breastbone. extra 7 are special kind of beam used for that lymphnode. rads onc tells me nobody ever took so long to do rads so he cannot speak for effectiveness. trials had been done only on consecutive days so......we'll see.....
10 mos of herceptin started 6 wks into chemo. canadian onc says 10 mos is just as effective as the full yr recommended by dr. slamon......so we'll see..completed july 2012.
Sept 18 2012: reconstruction and 3 drains. fails. i wear antibiotic pouch on my job for two months and have 60 consecutive days visiting a nursing centre where they apply burn victims' silver paper and clean the oozing infection daily. silicone leaks out daily. plastic surgeon in caribbean. emergency dept wont remove "his" work. He finally appears and orders me in into an emergency removal of implant. I make him promise no drains and I get my way. No infection as a result. Chest looks like a map of Brazil. Had a perfectly good left breast on Sept 17th but surgeon wanted to "save another woman an operation" ? so he had crashed two operations together on my left breast, foregoing the intermediary operation where you install an expander. the first surgeon a year earlier had flat out refused to waste five hours on his feet taking both boobs. flat out refusal. between the canadian health system saving money and both these asses, I got screwed. who knows when i can next get enough time off work (i work for myself and have no substitute when my husband is on contract) to get boobs again. arrrgh.


I have a blog where I document this trip and vent.
www.nora'scancerblog.blogspot.com . I stopped the blog before radiation. I think the steroids made me more angry and depressed and i just hated reading it anymore
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