The Supplements To Down=regulate Her2

[RobinP]

GLAD TO HELP LEXI. NOT EVERYONE HERE DOES SOY, ESPECIALLY ER P0SITIVES. BEING ER NEGATIVE, I DO SOY, NOT JUST FOR HER2,BUT FOR BONE HEALTH.The Funny Thing About Soy Milk Is That Because It Stimulates Estrogen Beta Receptor It Stimulates Bone Growth JUST As Regular Estrogen WITHOUT STIMULATING ALPHA ESTROGEN-THE RECEPTOR FOR BREAST CANCER. I Notice Now That Citracal Is Selliing Its Product Not Only With Vit. D AND Calcium, BUT SOY FOR BETTER BONE ABSORPTION. BY THE WAY, ALSO GREEN TEA STIMULATES BONE BUILDING VIA PHTOESTROGENS. SO MANY OF THESE SUPPLEMENTS I LISTED HAVE ADVANTAGES BEYOND BREAST CANCER PREVENTION.

Ps. Yes, I Did Know About Vitamin D. Hutchbk, As I Said I Use Vitamin D3, Note Not Vitamin D2, Which Is Not As Well Absorbed As Vitamin D3. Vitamin D Not Only Helps Upregulate Tumor Suppressor, Pten, It Decreases Cell Cycle G1.

[tricia keegan]

Robin thanks, I never know which supplements to take and find it confusing. My only concern is, and you can probably help with this I imagine , taking all these together. I know they all do different things in an important way but if taken together do they mix ok or are is there a danger of interaction or some other problem?? Sorry of this is a silly question but it's one that concerns me when taking a lot of supplements together.
Thanks in advance for your reply or anyone who can answer or reassure on this.

[RobinP]

Hi Tric, Because These Supplements Are Natural And Used In The Diet All The Time, I Feel Very Safe Using Them. If Anything They Have A Positve Synergistic Effect Against Her2 Rather Than A Bad Interaction.

I Also Try To Eat Lots Of Grapes Full Of Reservatol, A Chemical Known To Help Prevent Cancers And Inflammation. Of Course, Brocolli And The Cabbage Family Have Helpful Chemicals Too To Prevent CANCER.

[R.B.]

Tuna - The longer liver the fish the greater the amount of contaminants including mercury. There are concerns about tuna consumption with varying recommendations as to the maximum to eat a week from 1 - 3 portions.

Small oily fish are better and have more long chain Omega 3s - Atlantic mackerel, sardines etc.

REDUCE OMEGA 6 INTAKE.

Many trials suggest higher Omega 6 contributes to the risk of BC. http://her2support.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=24410


We only need about 1% - 2% of calories of the plant based Omega Six, and some suggest the figure is as low as 1/2%. ISSFAL the International Society for the Study of Fatty Acids and Lipids suggests a maximum of 3%.

Most have an intake of 10% or above.

For me that needs to be balanced with the plant based Omega 3 on the basis that there is generally more Omega 3 than 6 in green things which is where the food chain starts.

Seasonally we we have got some seeds and nuts which are high in Omega 6 which would have pushed the balance back towards Omega 6.

If evolved by the shore by accident or design we would always have had access to marine foods which are generally much higher in long chain Omega 3s than 6, which is why it is fine to get more long chain 3 than 6 ( as well as being shown to be beneficial in lots of trials for a variety of illnesses)

FLAXSEED

Flax seed may be of benefit, but a subject of much discussion so please talk to your onc and show him or her the trial.

Here is a trial link
http://clincancerres.aacrjournals.or...ull/11/10/3828

"Our study is small and the results need to be confirmed in a larger number of patients for a longer treatment period before it can be definitively concluded that flaxseed has the potential to reduce the growth and invasiveness of breast cancer. Its excellent tolerability, however, may make flaxseed particularly attractive for studies in breast cancer prevention, where healthy women should be offered well-tolerated interventions for long-term use. The interaction of flaxseed and its lignan and oil components with other hormonally active agents also needs to be addressed in the future. If the therapeutic index seen in this short-term study can be sustained over a long-term period, flaxseed, which is inexpensive and readily available, may be a potential dietary alternative or adjunct to currently used breast cancer drugs."

[freyja]

I recently found a site called www.oncologystat.com with great articles on studies done with cancer and alternative medicines/herbal supplements etc. Definitely worth a look.