Question about olive leaf

[R.B.]

It is complicated because their is choice and no absolute answers.

AIM balance omega three and six and ensure you get some long chain omega threes. To do this you will have to label watch and check food contents until you get the gist.

The body can make all fats except the mother omega three and six. Lots of things can block the process including age, so that would be an argument for ensuring a mix.

There are no absolutes. Please discuss dietary change with your doctor.

Within sensible limits less is more but there are different views.

Variety is good as different things contain different fat balances - so a little saturate is ok eg butter coconut small amounts lean meat if you are not vegitarian etc. but scrapings not lashings.

Olive is low in six high in nine and even lower in three. It also has other beneficial things apart from the "lipids" (Fats)

Flax has high three some six some nine. This has a small chart of common high oil sources and a breakdown of contents. http://www.benbest.com/health/essfat.html
But please see posts on flax as much discussion. Whole food sources have as far as possible to be the best starting point.

UDOs has a good reputation and a useful mix.

RB

[RobinP]

I use Flaxseed oil, which is the richest source of the essential fatty acid known as alpha-linolenic acid (ALA) or omega-3 fatty acid. It contains approximately 58% to 60% omega-3 fatty acids and 18% to 20% omega-6 fatty acids. It is estimated that the optimal ratio between omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acids is approximately 1 to 4. Most people are deficient in omega-3 and consume excessive amounts of the omega-6 fats and oils. In fact, studies report that the omega-3/omega-6 ratio for many people in the United States is between 1:20 and 1:30. Flaxseed oil, which contains 3 times more omega-3 than omega-6, may be used to help reverse the imbalance between omega-3 and omega-6.

[StephN]

Michele -
Wanted you to know which of the many offerings of Olive Leaf I have settled on. It is called "Olive Leaf Plus" from Oregon's Wild Harvest. (One thing I like is that the capsules are non-GMO vegetarian.

This particular version has 150mg olive leaf, 150 mg organic red clover tops, 55mg organic astragalus root and 45 mg of olive leaf powdered extract standardized.

The other ingredients are supposed to complement the properties of the olive leaf. Not being a scientist, I can't tell you exactly HOW that is done, but I have taken this off and on since we first had this discussion.

The olive oil and flax oil I use daily without exception.
Anyone have any thoughts on the combination listed above?

[RobinP]

Although, I really believe first in whole food sources, I think that olive leaf may be an alternative Michele, if you are concerned about the fat you are getting from the oil. You know, those of us who are hormonal negative should be on a low fat diet to help reduce relapse, according to the WINS study, so I understand your concerns about fat.
RELATED RESOURCES ON OLEIC OCID, GLA, AND HELPFUL FATS:
http://jnci.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/c...id=QID_NOT_SET
http://annonc.oxfordjournals.org/cgi...tract/mdi090v1
http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2407/7/80

http://annonc.oxfordjournals.org/cgi...5/11/1719?etoc

[Gina]

in general, is taken as a preventative measure overall, sort of as a biosynthetic shield, since it is anti-bacterial, anti-fungal, and anti-viral. I never meant for it to replace Omega-3's or Olive oil in any regimen. In the basic "Gina" regimen, it is there to protect us from catching OTHER things while we are on treatment and in the future and of course, to my mind, it is also there helping to fight against what I believe to be is more at the root of her-2 mediated disease, intra-cellular bacteria. Naturally, this is still highly controversial and unproven.

The main reason I picked Olive Leaf for my own personal regimen was for its all - in- one approach to the three big ones: Viruses, Bacteria, and Fungi, including yeasts. I had tested many things in the early years like Blueberries for viruses, echinechea for bacteria, yogurt for fungi, but I was eating all day long...smile...this one little pill seemed highly effective and so cheap and easy to work into my regimen....to this day, I take it EVERY day and have now for many, many years. I have tried many brands, but still use the purple cap Nature's Way brand, although I was interested to try the one Steph has discovered.

In looking back over the so called Gina regimen, I now realize that it is not so important which supplements you use for the various parts, but what is most important, is that you cover all the areas that the regimen hits. For instance, it doesn't seem to matter whether you get the Vitamin A from pumpkin, carrot juice, mangos, cantelope or fish oil, just that you take it in every day...Likewise, it does not seem to matter so much that you get your vitamin D from the sun, from fish oil, or even from Vitamin-enriched milk, dairy or soy. Just get it.

Unless you have digestive issues--say you are taking acid inhibitors which prevent the break down of minerals, in which case you will have to go through the skin, the same is true for magnesium and zinc. Whether you take your mag in via Chocolate or sit in an Epsom salt bath or slurp zinc-rich raw oysters or put your zinc on your feet as in Desitin, matters very little. Just include magnesium and zinc every day. If you get your GLA from evening primrose oil, borage oil, flax seed, who cares?? Just take in a little every day...same goes for omega-3's--pick your poison, olive oil, flax oil, and HERE is one BACON grease...I kid you not...smile...

What I have learned is that all these elements seem to support one of our back - up immune systems that runs more through the Interleukin-2 system than the interleukin -12, which in many cases, may have been disrupted, either by her-2 mediated disease or by the very same chemo treatments we use against it themselves (Herceptin excepted). That is why in SOME cases, I think that phytoestrogens, though controversial, may not be bad as they too, tend to support this back-up fail safe of immunity.

Michele, I have missed our chats...Take care,
Gina