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Old 10-05-2006, 06:48 AM   #1
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boswellia

Just a quick note to say that I remember seeing something a couple of years ago about Boswellia on the Sloan Kettering herb site about its antiproliferative and antiinflammatory properties, and since then I have ordered it (with curcumin) for my partner Rachel as part of her daily regimen...

Iherb has a relatively cheap one!

Best to all,
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Old 10-05-2006, 10:52 AM   #2
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Thanks Jeff!!
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Old 10-05-2006, 11:14 AM   #3
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Back to basics.

Here are some links to try and explain where these compounds originate.

Omega six.

Linoleic acid the mother omega SIXES and is found in high quantities in many vegetable oils etc.

I have previously posted links to trials which indicate possible links between high omega six and the profile of brain tumour cells. See Smart Fats A Schmidt

You cannot make omega six you must ingest it, so you have some ability to control the production of these compounds through diet. That simple.

Longer chain omega sixes can be made by the body, and are found in limited amounts in some food.

Omega three balances the effects of omega sixes. Please see the posts on the subject of omega three and six on this site. You can search clicking on "search" above on the purple line.

Dietary intake impacts on the way you express your genes.

Please speak to your doctor about dietary changes. Fats are very powerful.


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"Arachidonic acid
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Arachidonic acid is an omega-6 fatty acid with the chemical formula C20H32O2. In physiological literature, it is given the name 20:4(n-6). Its systematic chemical name is all-cis-5,8,11,14-eicosatetraenoic acid and its molecular weight is 304.5. Chemically, arachidonic acid is a carboxylic acid with a 20-carbon chain and four cis double bonds; the first double bond is located at the sixth carbon from the omega end. Some chemistry sources define 'arachidonic acid' to designate any of the eicosatetraenoic acids. However, almost all writings in biology, medicine and nutrition limit the term to all-cis 5,8,11,14-eicosatetraenoic acid.

Arachidonic acid is a polyunsaturated fatty acid that is present in the phospholipids (especially phosphatidylethanolamine, phosphatidylcholine and phosphatidylinositides) of membranes of the body's cells, and is highly enriched in the brain. It is a precursor in the production of eicosanoids: the prostaglandins, thromboxanes, prostacyclin and the leukotrienes (through enzymes including cyclooxygenase, lipoxygenase and peroxidase). The production of these derivatives, and their action in the body, are collectively known as the arachidonic acid cascade; see Essential fatty acid interactions for details.

Arachidonic acid is freed from phospholipid molecule by the enzyme phospholipase A2. It is also involved in cellular signaling as a second messenger.

Arachidonic acid is one of the essential fatty acids required by most mammals. Some mammals lack the ability to—or have a very limited capacity to—convert linoleic acid into arachidonic acid, making it an essential part of their diet. Since little or no arachidonic acid is found in plants, such animals are obligatory carnivores; the cat is a common example."



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The actions of the ω-3 and ω-6 essential fatty acids (EFAs) are best characterized by their interactions; they cannot be understood separately.

For introductory details to this topic, including terminology and ω-3 / ω-6 nomenclature, see the main articles at Essential fatty acid and Eicosanoid.

Arachidonic acid (AA) is a 20-carbon ω-6 essential fatty acid. It sits at the head of the "arachidonic acid cascade" – more than twenty different signalling paths that control a bewildering array of bodily functions, but especially those functions involving inflammation and the central nervous system. (Piomelli, 2000) Most AA in the human body derives from dietary linoleic acid (another essential fatty acid, 18:3 ω-6), which comes both from vegetable oils and animal fats.

In the inflammatory response, two other groups of dietary essential fatty acids form cascades that parallel and compete with the arachidonic acid cascade. EPA (20:5 ω-3) provides the most important competing cascade. It is ingested from oily fish or derived from dietary α linolenic acid found in e.g., flax oil. DGLA (20:3 ω-6) provides a third, less prominent cascade. It derives from dietary GLA (18:3 ω-6) found in, e.g. borage oil. These two parallel cascades soften the inflammatory effects of AA and its products. Low dietary intake of these less inflammatory essential fatty acids, especially the ω-3s, is associated with a variety of inflammation-related diseases.

The usual diet in industrial countries contains much less ω-3 fatty acids than the diet even a century ago, and that diet had much less ω-3 than the diet of early hunter-gatherers. This has been accompanied by increased rates of many diseases – the so-called diseases of civilization – that involve inflammatory processes. There is now very strong evidence (National Institute of Health, 2005) that several of these diseases are ameliorated by increasing dietary ω-3, and good evidence for many others. There is also more preliminary evidence showing that dietary ω-3 can ease symptoms in several psychiatric disorders.
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Old 10-10-2006, 06:40 PM   #4
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I contacted Dr. Flavin for my mother who has brain mets and she said that Boswellia serrata should be used right away at 800mg 3 times a day.

My understanding from my conversation with her was that those of her patients who are using this had regression of brain mets. She also has a few patients who are met free now for a few years.

This sounds pretty great and I'm going to get this for my mom if her onc allows it, but I am curious if anyone else has used this compound and if so what has been your success?

Thanks,
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Old 10-27-2006, 02:31 PM   #5
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Caution: possible interaction of Boswellia with some chemo drugs

In checking the pharmacokinetics of Boswellia Serrata I found this article which describes it as an iinhibitor of P450 enzymes which are required in the liver to metabolize some chemo drugs such as Navelbine.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=163643 38&dopt=Abstract
Analysis of frankincense from various Boswellia species with inhibitory activity on human drug metabolising cytochrome P450 enzymes using liquid chromatography mass spectrometry after automated on-line extraction.
The abstract does not state if the inhibition is occuring only in he gut or in the liver or both.
If the inhibition is restricted to the gut then intravenous chemo drugs would not be affected.
If however the inhibition is in the liver the consequences could be lowered effectiveness of the chemo treatment & possibly higher level of side effects due to longer persitance of the drug in the body & higher accumulation.

I hope this will turn out to be a false alert for most of those planing to use Boswellia but it needs to be clarified by someone with the right background such as Lani.

Last edited by heblaj01; 10-27-2006 at 04:02 PM.. Reason: Typo errors
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Old 10-27-2006, 03:23 PM   #6
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Hi Lani,

Thanks for the great information!
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Old 10-27-2006, 04:53 PM   #7
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Glad to see this resurface.

Re my post above.

Please do have a look at the omega three six posts if you have time or are tempted.

The essential fats and particularly omega three play a key part in brain health.

There have been suggestions that higher threes and lower sixes in the brain tissue are associated with lower risk of some brain cancers.

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