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09-14-2007, 03:32 AM
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Gamma knife failure
Gamma knife failed on my small skull metastasis. Has anyone heard of the skull doctor, Dr. Shahinian?
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09-14-2007, 03:33 AM
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Someone has made this site almost too complex to use.
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09-14-2007, 04:58 AM
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haven't heard of him, but have heard of Dr. Beasley who recommends him highly here
Physician Profile
Hrayr K. Shahinian, MD
Director of the Skull Base Institute
“This is not just a job. It’s not a profession. It’s a passion . . . And in the end, I get a huge reward because we’re making such a tremendous difference in somebody’s life.” Hrayr K. Shahinian
The surgical techniques employed by Hrayr Karnig Shahinian, M.D., director of the Skull Base Institute are not easily categorized by traditional, preconceived specialties. They are, in fact, a combination of techniques from several areas-a hybrid-that have enabled him to develop innovative approaches that may be available at no other site in the country.
By becoming proficient in several specialties, Dr. Shahinian has acquired a set of skills that is perfectly suited to treating problems that occur at the base of the skull. Just as importantly, he is encouraging the nation’s medical community to look at specializations in a new way, says Robert Beasley, M.D., professor of surgery at New York University and a noted plastic surgeon specializing in hand surgery.
According to Dr. Beasley, the Skull Base Institute is recognized as being among the first centers in the United States to move from the traditional method of defining surgical specialties by the body’s systems to the more practical method of identifying specialties by regions of the body.
“It’s a very sophisticated situation,” says Dr. Beasley. “Dr. Shahinian prepared first in general surgery, then in plastic surgery and microsurgical techniques in plastic surgery, and he later trained in Europe with an otolaryngologist. He has drawn upon allied specialties that are appropriate for his particular regional specialization.”
Dr. Beasley says he has closely followed Dr. Shahinian’s progress because both men attended Vanderbilt University, although at different times, and Dr. Shahinian received his training in plastic surgery at New York University where Dr. Beasley was involved in his education. He has enough confidence in Dr. Shahinian’s skills that when a member of Dr. Beasley’s family needed surgery for trigeminal neuralgia, a condition in which the fifth cranial (trigeminal) nerve becomes pinched by a blood vessel, Dr. Shahinian was his surgeon of choice.
While other surgeons perform microvascular decompression to treat trigeminal neuralgia, Dr. Shahinian’s team is the first to do the procedure endoscopically, inserting a small scope into a dime-size opening behind the ear. Using the scope and microsurgical instruments, Dr. Shahinian is able to separate the vessel from the nerve and place a small Teflon disk between the two-without disturbing the brain. This minimally invasive but time-consuming procedure provides immediate and complete relief from an excruciatingly painful condition. Patients go home after about a 48-hour hospital stay.
In addition to correcting nerve and vascular problems, Dr. Shahinian treats infants who suffer from craniosynostosis, a premature fusing of the skull which would otherwise restrict growth of the brain. The majority of Dr. Shahinian’s patients, however, come to him for the removal of various types of tumors, especially those located in the area of the pituitary gland. The Skull Base Institute is one of only two centers able to remove pituitary tumors in a procedure that borders on same-day surgery.
“We put a 2.7 millimeter telescope into the nostril and take the tumor out through the nose,” says Dr. Shahinian. “There are no incisions, no scars, and the duration of surgery is shortened because we don’t have to do the full approach anymore. There are fewer complications and patients go home the next morning.”
“Dr. Shahinian has unique and unmatched surgical skills,” says Achilles A. Demetriou, M.D., Ph.D., chairman of the Department of Surgery at Cedars-Sinai. “He has developed and is leading the first free-standing division of skull-base surgery in the country. In addition to being innovative, it offers the best possible care in the management of complex skull base and craniofacial problems.”
Dr. Demetriou says the two became acquainted in the mid-1980s when Dr. Shahinian began his surgical training at Vanderbilt University, where Dr. Demetriou was a professor. “He was my resident at Vanderbilt. I knew him from the first day he started his training there. He was a star and it was clear to everyone that he was destined for greatness from the beginning.”
Born in Beirut, Lebanon, Dr. Shahinian spent most of his childhood and youth in Paris. His family traveled extensively because his father, Karnig, was a civil engineer involved in projects throughout the Middle East and Africa. His father, mother, Maro, and two younger sisters, Lara and Houry, still live in France.
“My dad was a very strong influence on me, fighting every battle and providing inspiration,” says Dr. Shahinian. “When I was very young, he guided me through schools and pushed me to do well.”
Consistently recognized for academic achievement throughout his education, Dr. Shahinian received a bachelor’s degree with distinction in biology and chemistry from the American University of Beirut before earning his medical degree, also with distinction, from both the American University of Beirut and the University of Chicago’s Pritzker Medical School in 1985. While in medical school, he had the distinction of earning membership in the prestigious Alpha Omega Alpha honor society. Dr. Shahinian served as a research associate in the University of Chicago’s Department of Surgery for one year before completing his training in general surgery at Vanderbilt.
From 1991 to 1994, Dr. Shahinian completed fellowships in three different specialty areas. At New York University Medical Center’s Institute of Reconstructive Plastic Surgery, he specialized first in plastic and reconstructive surgery, then in craniofacial surgery. Next he went to the University of Zurich in Switzerland and concentrated on skull base surgery in the Department of Head and Neck Surgery.
Crossing specialty lines can be difficult, he admits, because he no longer fits into one category or another. Still, he wouldn’t have it any other way.
“I realized early on that one specialty could not get me where I wanted to go,” he says, comparing his “hybrid” education to the cross-training that keeps athletes at the peak of their game. “This is not just a job. It’s not a profession. It’s a passion.”
Passion or not, long, tedious hours peering through the scope into the recesses of a patient’s skull can be exhausting. But Dr. Shahinian thrives on putting his skills to the test.
“I love the technical challenge,” he says. “I like things that are very demanding. And in the end, I get a huge reward because we’re making such a tremendous difference in somebody’s life. This is where I get my kicks. First, in the technical challenge, and more importantly, in the outcomes.”
Prior to launching the Institute in October of 1996, he simultaneously served as attending surgeon at the United States Department of Veterans Affairs Medical Center in Northport, N.Y., assistant clinical professor at the Institute of Reconstructive Plastic Surgery at New York University Medical Center in New York City, and assistant professor of surgery and neurosurgery at the State University of New York at Stony Brook.
Dr. Shahinian received the Harwell Wilson Award for Excellence as a Surgical Resident while at Vanderbilt University Medical Center, and has earned several teaching awards. He has written numerous journal articles as well as a chapter on skull base surgery in the text “Grabb and Smith’s Plastic Surgery.” He is involved in research projects on a variety of subjects, including pituitary cell transplantation and endoscopic skull base surgery.
“He is unique in his accomplishments, in terms of abilities, talents and integrity,” says Dr. Beasley. “I’m proud to have possibly made a small contribution somewhere along the way, encouraging him to go out and buck the system and show what could be done. Now, even though the Institute has been open only a few years, he sees patients from all over the world.”
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09-14-2007, 05:04 AM
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perhaps a consultation regarding your options with someone
knowledgeable about brain mets from her2+ bc (perhaps also skull mets)
who uses both cyberknife and gamma knife and is knowledgeable about which cases are better dealt with with surgery and in what way-- before deciding how to proceed may be in order.
On the West Coast, since you are thinking of consulting skull base surgeon Dr. Shahinian at CedarsSinai in Los Angeles, such a person from what I can gather is Penny Sneed, MD of UCSF
Did I miss whether your skull mets are near the skull base or elsewhere on the skull?
Hope some of this helps
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09-14-2007, 05:05 AM
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Difficulty with site
I agree. Need a cheat sheet for all the symbols and areas to click on.
ginkott1@aol.com
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09-14-2007, 07:34 AM
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I'mDr. Shahinian sorry that the GammaKnife did not work on your skull met. I don't have any infor on Dr. Shahinian.
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Stage IIIC Diagnosed Oct 25, 2005 (age 58)
ER/PR-, HER2+++, grade 3, Ploidy/DNA index: Aneuploid/1.61, S-phase: 24.2%
Neoadjunct chemo: 4 A/C; 4 Taxatore
Bilateral mastectomy June 8, 2006
14 of 26 nodes positive
Herceptin June 22, 2006 - April 20, 2007
Radiation (X35) July 24-September 11, 2006
BRCA1/BRCA2 negative
Stage IV lung mets July 13, 2007 - TCH
Single brain met - August 6, 2007 -CyberKnife
Oct 2007 - clear brain MRI and lung mets shrinking.
March 2008 lung met progression, brain still clear - begin Tykerb/Xeloda/Ixempra
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09-14-2007, 07:37 AM
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Havah...
Try this: http://www.bcmets.org/
Very easy to 'negotiate'.
A site devoted to bc mets. We have a very large contingent of metsters there... someone may have had a similar experience to share.
best to you,
pattyz
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09-14-2007, 09:04 AM
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Havah...
I'm sorry your going through this and hope you find the help you need. I for 1 find the HER2 Support Group site VERY easy to navigate and would NEVER think of criticizing all of Joe and Christines work AND basically putting down (not you Havah) this site and encouraging use of another (while there are MANY good and useful bc support sites, I find it RUDE to not only criticize, but to encourage the NOT using of this site for the USING of another)...if you don't like this site, don't use it. Don't put down others hard work...THERE.
Rhonda
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Dx 2/1/05, Stage 1, 0 nodes, Grade 3, ER/PR-, HER2+ (3.16 Fish)
2/7/05, Partial Mastectomy
5/18/05 Finished 6 rounds of dose dense TEC (Taxotere, Epirubicin and Cytoxan)
8/1/05 Finished 33 rads
8/18/05 Started Herceptin, every 3 weeks for a year (last one 8/10/06)
2/1/13...8 year Cancerversary and I am "perfect" (at least where cancer is concerned;)
" And in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years."- Abraham Lincoln
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09-14-2007, 09:13 AM
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I am curious what you are looking for on this site that you find complex? A cheat sheet is needed for symbols and areas to click on? I personally only see very clear, self-explanatory and definitive words to click on, and I am one of the least 'techie' people on the planet. Perhaps what you are looking for is not contained in this site. If you don't find the info here, I say google it. You will find mounds of info doing that. This site is very "experience based" and if very few have had the experience of skull mets, you might find limited info here regarding skull mets. But you have done the best thing by posting the question...
I easily found this info here... http://bonetumor.org/
and this... http://her2support.org/index.php?opt...d=45&Itemid=68
and this... http://www.her2support.org/bone2.htm
and this... http://her2support.org/a/elekta.htm
Do you know for sure that the Gamma failed? From what I understand, it sometimes takes many months for the site to shrink and the tumor to slough off. When did you have the Gamma?
Best of luck on your journey.
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Brenda
NOV 2012 - 9 yr anniversary
JULY 2012 - 7 yr anniversary stage IV (of 50...)
Nov'03~ dX stage 2B
Dec'03~ Rt side mastectomy, Her2+, ER/PR+, 10 nodes out, one node positive
Jan'04~ Taxotere/Adria/Cytoxan x 6, NED, no Rads, Tamox. 1 year, Arimadex 3 mo., NED 14 mo.
Sept'05~ micro mets lungs/chest nodes/underarm node, Switched to Aromasin, T/C/H x 7, NED 6 months - Herceptin only
Aug'06~ micro mets chest nodes, & bone spot @ C3 neck, Added Taxol to Herceptin
Feb'07~ Genetic testing, BRCA 1&2 neg
Apr'07~ MRI - two 9mm brain mets & 5 punctates, new left chest met, & small increase of bone spot C3 neck, Stopped Aromasin
May'07~ Started Tykerb/Xeloda, no WBR for now
June'07~ MRI - stable brain mets, no new mets, 9mm spots less enhanced, CA15.3 down 45.5 to 9.3 in 10 wks, Ty/Xel working magic!
Aug'07~ MRI - brain mets shrunk half, NO NEW BRAIN METS!!, TMs stable @ 9.2
Oct'07~ PET/CT & MRI show NED
Apr'08~ scans still show NED in the head, small bone spot on right iliac crest (rear pelvic bone)
Sept'08~ MRI shows activity in brain mets, completed 5 fractions/5 consecutive days of IMRT to zap the pesky buggers
Oct'08~ dropped Xeloda, switched to tri-weekly Herceptin in combo with Tykerb, extend to tri-monthly Zometa infusion
Dec'08~ Brain MRI- 4 spots reduced to punctate size, large spot shrunk by 3mm, CT of torso clear/pelvis spot stable
June'09~ new 3-4mm left cerrebellar spot zapped with IMRT targeted rads
Sept'09~ new 6mm & 1 cm spots in pituitary/optic chiasm area. Rx= 25 days of 3D conformal fractionated targeted IMRT to the tumors.
Oct'09~ 25 days of low dose 3D conformal fractionated targeted IMRT to the bone mets spot on rt. iliac crest that have been watching for 2 years. Added daily Aromasin back into treatment regimen.
Apr'10~ Brain MRI clear! But, see new small spot on adrenal gland. Change from Aromasin back to Tamoxifen.
June'10~ Tumor markers (CA15.3) dropped from 37 to 23 after one month on Tamoxifen. Continue to monitor adrenal gland spot. Remain on Tykerb/Herceptin/Tamoxifen.
Nov'10~ Radiate positive mediastinal node that was pressing on recurrent laryngeal nerve, causing paralyzed larynx and a funny voice.
Jan'11~ MRI shows possible activity or perhaps just scar tissue/necrotic increase on 3 previously treated brain spots and a pituitary spot. 5 days of IMRT on 4 spots.
Feb'11~ Enrolled in T-DM1 EAP in Denver, first treatment March 25, 2011.
Mar'11~ Finally started T-DM1 EAP in Denver at Rocky Mountain Cancer Center/Rose on Mar. 25... hallelujah.
"I would rather be anecdotally alive than statistically dead."
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09-14-2007, 09:20 AM
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I find this site very easy to navigate too. ??
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12/12/06- IDC Stage III, 4x A/C, 35 rads, Herceptin 1 year
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09-14-2007, 12:10 PM
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Location: CHARLOTTE NC USA
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easier then this site,you can't find anywhere else
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Lily Diag April/06 5 months after give birth my son Max stage IV mets on liver (5 tumors) 38 year old, her2+++ and ER+PR+ from32 nodes 4 positives mastectomy right breast chemo before surgery herceptin/carboplatin/taxotere ,clear and surgery have radiation 20, `& then herceptin and tamoxifen NED until Aug/07 body only then 'n June 04-06-07 .1 lesion of 1.6 cm on cerebellum ...novalis ,open sugery 5m.m brain met again novalis, 4mm.In the liver. Waiting 2 months now 3 tumors enroll on T-MCC trial start first infusion Nov 5/07 at Dec 17 scan show one tumor despair the 2nd and 3th diminish Doc said great results until March/08 ct scan show progression 03-05-08 start tykerb & xeloda
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09-14-2007, 03:12 PM
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I think some of the responders to HavahJ's thread aren't taking into account the fact that some brain metsters have vision and cognitive difficulties associated with their treatments, especially WBR, that may make it harder for them to navigate and also some aren't as computer savy as others, plus if one doesn't have high speed internet it can be extrememly frustrating.
We all appreciate Joe and Christine's work. I don't think they are offended if we frequent other sites for whatever reason.
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Sept.'99 - Dx.Stage IIIB, IDC ER/PR-, HER2+++ by IHC, confirmed '04 by FISH. Left MRM, AC x's 4, Taxol x's 4, 33 Rads, finishing Tx May 2000. Jan.'01 - local/regional recurrence, Stage IV. Herceptin/Navelbine weekly till NED August 2001, then maintenance Herceptin. Right Mast. April 2002. Local/Regional recurrence April '04, Herceptin plus/minus chemo until May '07. Gemzar added from Feb.'07-April '07; Tykerb/Abraxane until August '07, back on Herceptin plus Taxotere and Xeloda Sept. '07. Stopped T/X Nov. '07, stopped Herceptin Dec. '07, started Avastin/Taxol/Carboplatin Dec. '07. Progression in chest skin, stopped TAC March '03, started radiation.
Herceptin has served as the "Backbone" of my treatment strategy for over 6 years, giving me great quality of life. In 2005, I was privileged to participate in the University of Washington/Seattle HER2 Vaccine Trial.
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