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07-07-2007, 10:06 AM
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BC friend recurred need links to articles...
need some info for friend that has been told that she may be able to be treated for recurrence to chest nodes (?) and wall with Herceptin. She is BRCA+, and was NOT her2 with her original diagnosis. Can anyone cite any studies regarding use of Herceptin in this case.
Thanks loads!
Marcia
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07-07-2007, 09:32 PM
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I saw it yesterday but could not find. Herceptin seems to have similiar results for Her -. I'll go look in trash again. BB
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07-07-2007, 09:40 PM
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The study was in Clinicalcareoptions.com this week. It's a continuing education credit site for docs. If you need log in or password data, let me know. Bev
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07-08-2007, 07:35 AM
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Dear Bev, Thank you!
I Looked for the article but here are so many! Was the author Perez or Slamon? I do need a password and log in to access. Thanks again,Marcia
Last edited by Soccermom; 07-08-2007 at 07:36 AM..
Reason: left out info
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07-08-2007, 10:41 AM
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Wait, what?
Are they saying that Herceptin is effective for Her2 negative cancers??? I do want to see that study!
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07-09-2007, 08:13 AM
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Adjuvant Trastuzumab Benefit Seen in Both HER2-Positive and HER2-Negative Breast Cancers
Posting Date: June 08, 2007
- Retrospective laboratory analysis<sup>[1]</sup>
- National Surgical Adjuvant Breast and Bowel Project (NSABP) study B-31
Summary of Key Conclusions
- Clinical benefit of adjuvant trastuzumab seen consistently across all patient subsets defined by fluorescence in situ hybridization (FISH) or immunohistochemistry (IHC)
- Benefit from adjuvant trastuzumab possibly not limited to tumors defined as HER2 positive by current definitions
- Potential issues with HER2 status determination in adjuvant setting
- HER2 expression may be a continuous variable; difficult to determine cutoff
- Tumors with HER2/CEP17 ratio < 2 defined as HER2 negative, but can have HER2 expression
- Confirmatory studies needed
Background
- Treatment with trastuzumab indicated for patients with HER2-positive breast cancer
- HER2 positive defined as
- HER2 protein overexpression
- HER 2 gene amplification
- HER2/CEP17 ratio > 2 by FISH
- Criteria for HER2 amplification/overexpression determined from advanced breast cancer patient population treated with trastuzumab
- Criteria not formally evaluated in breast cancer patients treated with trastuzumab in adjuvant setting
- Current study evaluated benefit of adjuvant trastuzumab on DFS according to HER2 status assessed by FISH and IHC in women enrolled on NSABP B-31
- NSABP study B-31 interim report: May 2005<sup>[2]</sup>
Summary of Study Design
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07-09-2007, 08:17 AM
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Summary of Study Design
 - Central laboratory analysis of HER2 amplification/overexpression
- Samples with results by FISH: n = 1795
- Samples with results by IHC: n = 1787
- HER2 status by FISH and IHC correlated with DFS events by treatment arm
Main Findings
- HER2 assessments showed high HER2 false-positive rate
- 207 of 1795 cases (11.5%) HER2 negative by FISH
- 299 of 1787 cases (16.7%) HER2 negative by IHC
- 174 of 1795 cases (9.7%) HER2 negative by both FISH and IHC
- Trastuzumab associated with consistent benefit in DFS across all subsets defined by either FISH or IHC
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07-09-2007, 08:18 AM
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<table class="ccotable" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="500"> <thead align="left"><tr><th> HER2 Assessment
</th> <th> Patients, n </th> <th colspan="2"> AC → P </th> <th colspan="2"> AC → PT </th> <th> Risk Ratio
(95% CI) </th> <th> P Value </th> </tr> <tr> <th>
</th> <th>
</th> <th> n </th> <th> Events </th> <th> n </th> <th> Events </th> <th>
</th> <th>
</th> </tr> </thead> <tbody> <tr> <td> FISH positive
</td> <td> 1588 </td> <td> 789 </td> <td> 160 </td> <td> 799 </td> <td> 85 </td> <td> 0.47
(0.36-0.61) </td> <td> < .0001 </td> </tr> <tr class="alternate"> <td> FISH negative
</td> <td> 207 </td> <td> 114 </td> <td> 23 </td> <td> 93 </td> <td> 8 </td> <td> 0.40
(0.18-0.89) </td> <td> .026 </td> </tr> <tr> <td> IHC positive (3+)
</td> <td> 1488 </td> <td> 740 </td> <td> 151 </td> <td> 748 </td> <td> 82 </td> <td> 0.48
(0.37-0.63) </td> <td> < .0001 </td> </tr> <tr class="alternate"> <td> IHC negative
(0, 1+, 2+)
</td> <td> 299 </td> <td> 161 </td> <td> 32 </td> <td> 138 </td> <td> 10 </td> <td> 0.32
(0.16-0.65) </td> <td> .0017 </td> </tr> <tr> <td> FISH and IHC negative
</td> <td> 174 </td> <td> 92 </td> <td> 20 </td> <td> 82 </td> <td> 7 </td> <td> 0.34
(0.14-0.80) </td> <td> .014 </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> AC → P; doxorubicin, cyclophosphamide followed by paclitaxel; AC → PT; doxorubicin, cyclophosphamide followed by trastuzumab and paclitaxel.- No significant interaction between DFS benefit from trastuzumab and
- HER2 protein level
- HER2 gene copy number
References
1. Paik S, Kim C, Jeong J, et al. Benefit from adjuvant trastuzumab may not be confined to patients with IHC 3+ and/or FISH-positive tumors: central testing results from NSABP B-31. Program and abstracts of the 43rd American Society of Clinical Oncology Annual Meeting; June 1-5, 2007; Chicago, Illinois. Abstract 511.
2. Romond E, Perez EA, Bryant J, et al. Docetaxel and cyclophosphamide followed by paclitaxel with or without trastuzumab as adjuvant therapy for patients with HER2-positive operative breast cancer: combined analysis of NSABP-B-31 and NCCTG-N9831. Program and abstracts of the 41st Annual Meeting of the American Society of Clinical Oncology; May 13-17, 2005; Orlando, Florida.
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07-09-2007, 02:44 PM
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Thanks so much ,Bev!
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07-09-2007, 03:19 PM
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Retested?
Just a question. Why did you get retested ror BRCA1,2. ?
I tested negative about 2 mos. Just wanted to know the need to get retested again. Thanks.
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1994 - rt brst, .lump, underarm node dissection,chemo+rad 1.2 cms, Grade 3.
28 nodes neg
Er,Pr, Positive HER2 status unknown
2003- Recur to rt lung.July 16 ( B-Day!)
Her2+++ Er,Pr, Negative
2003 - Aug04--Navelbine + Herceptin
2004- 2007--NED - Herceptin, only
2007 Feb-April Xeloda added to hereceptin
2007-May Back on Navelbine+Herceptin
2008-Feb-Mar 15 Ses Rad to Rt. Lung
2008- Oc 17 Add Tykerb to Herceptin
2009- June-- Discont Tykerb
2009 July 7--Current Taxol + Herceptin
2009 Dec--Discontinued treatment due to progression. Looking into cyberknife.
2010-Aug Accepted to TDM1, no SE, except liver count went up.
2010-2011 September got kicked out of the trial, due to a small spot found on lung.
2011- 2012 September thru early 2013 on Herceptin
2013- March Bone density shows small spot on 5th rib.
2013 - April 4th appt with onc. will post after discussing course of treatment.
2013-March-April Cyber knife to brain and radiation to rib. Chest --base line before chemo-CT-Scan stable for lung issue. CA2729 Normal.
2013 April Herceptin- TDMI
2013 Sept Herceptin + Perjeta . CA2729 within normal range. Brain and Pet scans October 31st. will post results.
2013 October Brain MRI- mixed response. Will see Onc/rad on Halloween.
2013 October/November Brain-MRI nothing new. Repeat MRI next year in May.
2013 December Continue Herceptin and Perjeta. Stable at the moment.
2014 February Brain MRI -clear!
2014 January Added Taxotere to Perjeta+Herceptin.
2014 March Stopped chemo-chest ct-scan next.
2014- March Scans shows tumor's larger, CA2729 higher. Discontinue Herceptin.
2014 April Perjeta+ Halaven
2014 April CA2729 went down 60 points after one cycle. Cough does not want to go away.
2014 June Continue on Perjeta + Halaven-- no more cough. Stable
2014 June Back on Herceptin + abraxane
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07-13-2007, 06:20 PM
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Kind regards
Becky
Found lump via BSE
Diagnosed 8/04 at age 45
1.9cm tumor, ER+PR-, Her2 3+(rt side)
2 micromets to sentinel node
Stage 2A
left 3mm DCIS - low grade ER+PR+Her2 neg
lumpectomies 9/7/04
4DD AC followed by 4 DD taxol
Used Leukine instead of Neulasta
35 rads on right side only
4/05 started Tamoxifen
Started Herceptin 4 months after last Taxol due to
trial results and 2005 ASCO meeting & recommendations
Oophorectomy 8/05
Started Arimidex 9/05
Finished Herceptin (16 months) 9/06
Arimidex Only
Prolia every 6 months for osteopenia
NED 18 years!
Said Christopher Robin to Pooh: "You must remember this: You're braver than you believe and stronger than you seem and smarter than you think"
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