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		What is the REAL protocal about beer and wine while in treatment (Herceptin). My nurse gives me a flat out "no beer, no wine" followed by "well, you don't look like the type that would drink a whole six pack..." 
  
I didn't have a drink for almost 5 months during chemo but have enjoyed a few glasses of wine and a couple beers now that the weather has warmed up.  
Does alcohol it hinder the effects of the Herceptin? I have not seen any data. 
  
My nutrition expert tells me dark beer and dark red wine are healthiest. 
  
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Lumpectomy - Nov. 13, 2007  
Tumor 1.2 cm 
Stage 1 Grade 3 
ER/PR - Her2 +++ (3.8) 
Taxotere/Carboplatin/Herceptin- 6 rounds 
Neulasta  
Radiation 33 treatments - will be done 6/6/08 
Herceptin through 12/08 
12/07 MUGA 61%, 4/08 MUGA 60%, 7/08 MUGA 64% 
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		 My personal official protocol is and has been through all of my treatments... a beer or two or a margarita or two per month. Very sparingly, but when the mood strikes, I let myself enjoy one.  
 
As far as research goes, I can't tell you. My doc told me that at my rate of drinking, I couldn't possibly adversely affect anything regardless what treatment I was/am on. (and with the nickname "half-beer Brenda", it's really hard for me to do any true harm, LOL) 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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 NOV 2012 - 9 yr anniversary 
JULY 2012 - 7 yr anniversary stage IV (of 50...) 
  
 Nov'03~ dX stage 2B  
Dec'03~ Rt side mastectomy, Her2+, ER/PR+, 10 nodes out, one node positive  
Jan'04~ Taxotere/Adria/Cytoxan x 6, NED, no Rads, Tamox. 1 year, Arimadex 3 mo., NED 14 mo.   
Sept'05~ micro mets lungs/chest nodes/underarm node, Switched to Aromasin, T/C/H x 7, NED 6 months - Herceptin only  
Aug'06~ micro mets chest nodes, & bone spot @ C3 neck, Added Taxol to Herceptin  
Feb'07~ Genetic testing, BRCA 1&2 neg  
Apr'07~ MRI - two 9mm brain mets & 5 punctates, new left chest met, & small increase of bone spot C3 neck, Stopped Aromasin  
May'07~ Started Tykerb/Xeloda, no WBR for now  
June'07~ MRI  - stable brain mets, no new mets, 9mm spots less enhanced, CA15.3 down 45.5 to 9.3 in 10 wks, Ty/Xel working magic!  
Aug'07~ MRI - brain mets shrunk half, NO NEW BRAIN METS!!, TMs stable @ 9.2  
Oct'07~ PET/CT & MRI show NED  
Apr'08~ scans still show NED in the head, small bone spot on right iliac crest (rear pelvic bone) 
Sept'08~ MRI shows activity in brain mets, completed 5 fractions/5 consecutive days of IMRT to zap the pesky buggers 
Oct'08~ dropped Xeloda, switched to tri-weekly Herceptin in combo with Tykerb, extend to tri-monthly Zometa infusion 
Dec'08~ Brain MRI- 4 spots reduced to punctate size, large spot shrunk by 3mm, CT of torso clear/pelvis spot stable  
June'09~ new 3-4mm left cerrebellar spot zapped with IMRT targeted rads  
Sept'09~ new 6mm & 1 cm spots in pituitary/optic chiasm area. Rx= 25 days of 3D conformal fractionated targeted IMRT to the tumors. 
Oct'09~ 25 days of low dose 3D conformal fractionated targeted IMRT to the bone mets spot on rt. iliac crest that have been watching for 2 years. Added daily Aromasin back into treatment regimen. 
Apr'10~ Brain MRI clear! But, see new small spot on adrenal gland. Change from Aromasin back to Tamoxifen. 
June'10~ Tumor markers (CA15.3) dropped from 37 to 23 after one month on Tamoxifen. Continue to monitor adrenal gland spot. Remain on Tykerb/Herceptin/Tamoxifen. 
Nov'10~ Radiate positive mediastinal node that was pressing on recurrent laryngeal nerve, causing paralyzed larynx and a funny voice. 
Jan'11~ MRI shows possible activity or perhaps just scar tissue/necrotic increase on 3 previously treated brain spots and a pituitary spot. 5 days of IMRT on 4 spots. 
Feb'11~ Enrolled in T-DM1 EAP in Denver, first treatment March 25, 2011. 
Mar'11~ Finally started T-DM1 EAP in Denver at Rocky Mountain Cancer Center/Rose on Mar. 25... hallelujah. 
 
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			05-28-2008, 09:09 AM
			
							
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		 Dana 
When I was on Herceptin only, I enjoyed a few beers or a glass or 2 of wine whenever...my onc. actually recommended it, especially the wine....I remember going to Key West and getting a little tipsy....OK I was as drunk as a sailor.....didn't hurt me a bit...I just knew the headache the next day was not Herceptin related!!! I even drank wine a a beer now and then while on Xeloda with the Herceptin...Listen to Brenda....yep they call her half beer brenda, but she dances on tables after a few Margaritias!!!! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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Diagnosed at age 49.99999 2/21/2002 via Mammography (Calcifications) 
Core Biopsy 2/22/02
L. Mastectomy 2/25/2002
Stage 1, 0.7cm IDC, Node Neg from 19 nodes Her2+++ ER PR Neg
6/2003 Reconstruction W/ Tissue Expander, Silicone Implant 
9/2003 Stage IV with Mets to Supraclavicular nodes
9/2003 Began Herceptin every 3 weeks
3/2006 Xeloda 2500mg/Herceptin for recurrence to neck nodes
3/2007 Added back the Xeloda with Herceptin for continued mets to nodes
5/2007 Taken Off Xeloda, no longer working
6/14/07 Taxol/Herceptin/Avastin
3/26 - 5/28/08 Taxol Holiday Whopeeeeeeeee
5/29 2008 Back on Taxol w Herceptin q 2 weeks
4/2009 Progression on Taxol & Paralyzed L Vocal Cord from Nodes Pressing on Nerve
5/2009 Begin Rx with Navelbine/Herceptin 
11/09 Progression on Navelbine
Fought for and started Tykerb/Herceptin...nodes are melting!!!!!
2/2010 Back to Avastin/Herceptin
5/2010 Switched to Metronomic Chemo with Herceptin...Cytoxan and Methotrexate
Pericardial Window Surgery to Drain Pericardial Effusion
7/2010 Back to walking a mile a day...YEAH!!!!
9/2010 Nodes are back with a vengence in neck
Qualified for TDM-1 EAP
10/6/10 Begin my miracle drug, TDM-1
Mixed response, shrinking internal nodes, progression skin mets after 3 treatments
12/6/10 Started Halaven (Eribulen) /Herceptin excellent results in 2 treatments 
2/2011 I CELEBRATE my 9 YEAR MARK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
7/5/11 begin Gemzar /Herceptin for node progression 
2/8/2012 Gemzar stopped, Continue Herceptin
2/20/2012 Begin Tomo Radiation to Neck Nodes
2/21/2012 I CELEBRATE 10 YEARS
5/12/2012 BeganTaxotere/ Herceptin is my next miracle for new node progression
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			05-28-2008, 11:43 AM
			
							
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		Hi, 
The chemo nurses told me the reason they do not recommend alcohol during treatment is that everything (including chemo and alcohol) goes through the liver and alcohol can put extra stress on the liver. I think if a person wants to drink during treatment he or she should limit the amount of alcohol. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			05-28-2008, 06:50 PM
			
							
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		Hi Dana, 
Loved seeing your picture with your post!  I still haven't figured out how to do that.  Anyway, I'm drinking a glass of wine right now.  I haven't heard anything about alcohol except that I don't want to add stress to my liver so I try to limit my intake to 2-3 per week.  Enjoy yourself   
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DCIS, Inv. Duct. Car. 3 cm 
Positive lymph node biopsy 
Er+Pr+Her+++ 
Carboplatin/Taxotere/Herceptin 
10-1-07 -- 1-16-08 
Herceptin every 3 weeks until 9/24/08 
Lump. and node dissection 2-12-08 
BRCA1 and 2 negative 
30 rads finished 4-23-08 
oophorectomy 5-6-08 
Femara started 5/25/08 
Zometa for osteoporosis every 6 mo. started 9-24-08 
  
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			05-28-2008, 07:13 PM
			
							
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		 Dear Dana 
  
When on chemo, I didn't drink alcohol because I felt my body (especially my liver) was working hard enough.  On Herceptin only, I did whatever I wanted to.  Usually not on treatment day or so, sometimes I have a couple of glasses of wine on weekend days (during Herceptin and now).  I am good in every other way and I really love red wines.  If it reduces the effectiveness of Herceptin (and there is nothing that says it does - trust me), well... I am almost 4 years out and I am still here!!! 
  
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Becky 
  
Found lump via BSE 
Diagnosed 8/04 at age 45 
1.9cm tumor, ER+PR-, Her2 3+(rt side) 
2 micromets to sentinel node 
Stage 2A 
left 3mm DCIS - low grade ER+PR+Her2 neg 
lumpectomies 9/7/04 
4DD AC followed by 4 DD taxol 
Used Leukine instead of Neulasta 
35 rads on right side only 
4/05 started Tamoxifen 
Started Herceptin 4 months after last Taxol due to 
trial results and 2005 ASCO meeting & recommendations 
Oophorectomy 8/05 
Started Arimidex 9/05 
Finished Herceptin (16 months) 9/06 
Arimidex Only 
Prolia every 6 months for osteopenia 
  
NED 18 years! 
  
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			05-28-2008, 07:36 PM
			
							
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		 sure glad that we are ok with the wine because i just finished my glass. 
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bil mast recon sept 24/07 
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			05-28-2008, 07:40 PM
			
							
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		 Dana, like the man once said, "all things in moderation", and the woman once said, "do whatever Becky, Sheila, and Hucklebuck say".  My wife's docs. and nurses were not opposed to a drink now and then. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Dana, a very worthy and valid question! 
 
When I was going through chemo I asked both of my super duper doctors.  My treatment was weekly T/C/H for 3 weeks, then a "week off" where I only got Herceptin 
 
One recommended strongly against it on the chemo weeks, as I had extensive liver mets and she felt my liver was already working pretty hard with the chemo.  But she said a glass or two of wine on the off weeks would be ok. 
 
The other thought a glass of wine was ok, but only if it was good wine, and viewed it as a quality of life issue. 
 
So I looked forward to the "week off" when I could, and did, enjoy a nice glass of wine.  My hubby liked to trumpet how it was my "drink like a fish" week. 
 
The issue was not whether it would interfere with the action of the chemo, it was rather the work of detox that the liver was already having to do. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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June 2002 extensive hi grade DCIS (pre-cancer-stage 0, clean sentinal node) Mastectomy/implant - no chemo, rads. "cured?" 
9/2004  Diag: Stage IV extensive  liver mets (!) ER/PR- Her2+++ 
10/04-3/05 Weekly Taxol/Carboplatin/Herceptin , complete response!  
04/05 - 4/07 Herception every 3 wks, Continue NED 
04/07 - recurrence to liver - 2 spots, starting tykerb/avastin trial 
06/07 8/07 10/07 Scans show stable, continue on Tykerb/Avastin 
01/08 Progression in liver  
02/08 Begin (TDM1) trial  
08/08 NED! It's Working!  Continue on TDM1 
02/09 Continue NED 
02/10  Continue NED.  5/10 9/10 Scans NED 10/10 Scans NED 
12/10 Scans not clear....4/11 Scans suggest progression 6/11 progression confirmed in liver 
07/11 - 11/11 Herceptin/Xeloda -not working:( 
12/11 Begin MM302 Phase I trial - bust:( 
03/12 3rd times the charm? AKT trial  
 5/12 Scan shows reduction!  7/12 More reduction!!!! 
8/12 Whoops...progression...trying for Perjeta/Herceptin (plus some more nasty chemo!) 
9/12 Start Perjeta/Herceptin, chemo on hold due to infection/wound in leg, added on cycle 2 &3 
11/12 Poops! progression in liver, Stop Perjeta/Taxo/Herc 
11/12 Navelbine/Herce[ptin - try for a 3 cycles, no go. 
2/13 Gemzar/Carbo/Herceptin - no go. 
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			05-29-2008, 10:12 AM
			
							
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		 I agree about liver mets... if I had liver mets I would not ever drink even 1 or 2 a month. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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 NOV 2012 - 9 yr anniversary 
JULY 2012 - 7 yr anniversary stage IV (of 50...) 
  
 Nov'03~ dX stage 2B  
Dec'03~ Rt side mastectomy, Her2+, ER/PR+, 10 nodes out, one node positive  
Jan'04~ Taxotere/Adria/Cytoxan x 6, NED, no Rads, Tamox. 1 year, Arimadex 3 mo., NED 14 mo.   
Sept'05~ micro mets lungs/chest nodes/underarm node, Switched to Aromasin, T/C/H x 7, NED 6 months - Herceptin only  
Aug'06~ micro mets chest nodes, & bone spot @ C3 neck, Added Taxol to Herceptin  
Feb'07~ Genetic testing, BRCA 1&2 neg  
Apr'07~ MRI - two 9mm brain mets & 5 punctates, new left chest met, & small increase of bone spot C3 neck, Stopped Aromasin  
May'07~ Started Tykerb/Xeloda, no WBR for now  
June'07~ MRI  - stable brain mets, no new mets, 9mm spots less enhanced, CA15.3 down 45.5 to 9.3 in 10 wks, Ty/Xel working magic!  
Aug'07~ MRI - brain mets shrunk half, NO NEW BRAIN METS!!, TMs stable @ 9.2  
Oct'07~ PET/CT & MRI show NED  
Apr'08~ scans still show NED in the head, small bone spot on right iliac crest (rear pelvic bone) 
Sept'08~ MRI shows activity in brain mets, completed 5 fractions/5 consecutive days of IMRT to zap the pesky buggers 
Oct'08~ dropped Xeloda, switched to tri-weekly Herceptin in combo with Tykerb, extend to tri-monthly Zometa infusion 
Dec'08~ Brain MRI- 4 spots reduced to punctate size, large spot shrunk by 3mm, CT of torso clear/pelvis spot stable  
June'09~ new 3-4mm left cerrebellar spot zapped with IMRT targeted rads  
Sept'09~ new 6mm & 1 cm spots in pituitary/optic chiasm area. Rx= 25 days of 3D conformal fractionated targeted IMRT to the tumors. 
Oct'09~ 25 days of low dose 3D conformal fractionated targeted IMRT to the bone mets spot on rt. iliac crest that have been watching for 2 years. Added daily Aromasin back into treatment regimen. 
Apr'10~ Brain MRI clear! But, see new small spot on adrenal gland. Change from Aromasin back to Tamoxifen. 
June'10~ Tumor markers (CA15.3) dropped from 37 to 23 after one month on Tamoxifen. Continue to monitor adrenal gland spot. Remain on Tykerb/Herceptin/Tamoxifen. 
Nov'10~ Radiate positive mediastinal node that was pressing on recurrent laryngeal nerve, causing paralyzed larynx and a funny voice. 
Jan'11~ MRI shows possible activity or perhaps just scar tissue/necrotic increase on 3 previously treated brain spots and a pituitary spot. 5 days of IMRT on 4 spots. 
Feb'11~ Enrolled in T-DM1 EAP in Denver, first treatment March 25, 2011. 
Mar'11~ Finally started T-DM1 EAP in Denver at Rocky Mountain Cancer Center/Rose on Mar. 25... hallelujah. 
 
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			05-29-2008, 11:39 AM
			
							
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		As my wine merchant says, "Life is too short to drink bad wine". 
  
We all oughtta know, eh? 
  
I couldn't stand the smell of alcohol during chemo. But I did indulge a bit during Herceptin. Try my method, buy something really good and expensive then sniff an inch and dilute the heck out of it and drink. Non-alcoholic wine is gross, unless you really like Gallo Red Mountain. 
  
Beerwise, I'm with Brenda on the half glass. Half a glass and I'm 'hopsed' out. Too bitter. But try something like O'Douls non-alcoholic (actually about 1%). Not too bad. 
  
What's this about dancing on the tables after a few Margaritas? Talk about "quality of life issues"! 
  
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		 Thank you all for posting. Now I don't feel so guilty having one or two social drinks on occassion. If I have two beers, I drink water in between.  
  
I couldn't bring myself to have a drink during my five months of chemo during the winter...it simply tasted like chemicals anyway.  
  
I am thankful to all of you - the support and wisdom really help. 
  
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Lumpectomy - Nov. 13, 2007  
Tumor 1.2 cm 
Stage 1 Grade 3 
ER/PR - Her2 +++ (3.8) 
Taxotere/Carboplatin/Herceptin- 6 rounds 
Neulasta  
Radiation 33 treatments - will be done 6/6/08 
Herceptin through 12/08 
12/07 MUGA 61%, 4/08 MUGA 60%, 7/08 MUGA 64% 
three wonderful daughters, a terrific husband, 
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		 Just be careful not to drink 24 hours before your treatment.  
  
There was a post here several years ago about a woman who had a drink of wine to "settle her nerves" before she set off to the oncologists. As a result one of her tumor markers were consistantly high, causing much consternation to herself and her onc. 
  
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			05-29-2008, 09:59 PM
			
							
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		 Good advice Joe! Yes, I always steered clear of my occasional social drink for at least 5 days before a treatment. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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 NOV 2012 - 9 yr anniversary 
JULY 2012 - 7 yr anniversary stage IV (of 50...) 
  
 Nov'03~ dX stage 2B  
Dec'03~ Rt side mastectomy, Her2+, ER/PR+, 10 nodes out, one node positive  
Jan'04~ Taxotere/Adria/Cytoxan x 6, NED, no Rads, Tamox. 1 year, Arimadex 3 mo., NED 14 mo.   
Sept'05~ micro mets lungs/chest nodes/underarm node, Switched to Aromasin, T/C/H x 7, NED 6 months - Herceptin only  
Aug'06~ micro mets chest nodes, & bone spot @ C3 neck, Added Taxol to Herceptin  
Feb'07~ Genetic testing, BRCA 1&2 neg  
Apr'07~ MRI - two 9mm brain mets & 5 punctates, new left chest met, & small increase of bone spot C3 neck, Stopped Aromasin  
May'07~ Started Tykerb/Xeloda, no WBR for now  
June'07~ MRI  - stable brain mets, no new mets, 9mm spots less enhanced, CA15.3 down 45.5 to 9.3 in 10 wks, Ty/Xel working magic!  
Aug'07~ MRI - brain mets shrunk half, NO NEW BRAIN METS!!, TMs stable @ 9.2  
Oct'07~ PET/CT & MRI show NED  
Apr'08~ scans still show NED in the head, small bone spot on right iliac crest (rear pelvic bone) 
Sept'08~ MRI shows activity in brain mets, completed 5 fractions/5 consecutive days of IMRT to zap the pesky buggers 
Oct'08~ dropped Xeloda, switched to tri-weekly Herceptin in combo with Tykerb, extend to tri-monthly Zometa infusion 
Dec'08~ Brain MRI- 4 spots reduced to punctate size, large spot shrunk by 3mm, CT of torso clear/pelvis spot stable  
June'09~ new 3-4mm left cerrebellar spot zapped with IMRT targeted rads  
Sept'09~ new 6mm & 1 cm spots in pituitary/optic chiasm area. Rx= 25 days of 3D conformal fractionated targeted IMRT to the tumors. 
Oct'09~ 25 days of low dose 3D conformal fractionated targeted IMRT to the bone mets spot on rt. iliac crest that have been watching for 2 years. Added daily Aromasin back into treatment regimen. 
Apr'10~ Brain MRI clear! But, see new small spot on adrenal gland. Change from Aromasin back to Tamoxifen. 
June'10~ Tumor markers (CA15.3) dropped from 37 to 23 after one month on Tamoxifen. Continue to monitor adrenal gland spot. Remain on Tykerb/Herceptin/Tamoxifen. 
Nov'10~ Radiate positive mediastinal node that was pressing on recurrent laryngeal nerve, causing paralyzed larynx and a funny voice. 
Jan'11~ MRI shows possible activity or perhaps just scar tissue/necrotic increase on 3 previously treated brain spots and a pituitary spot. 5 days of IMRT on 4 spots. 
Feb'11~ Enrolled in T-DM1 EAP in Denver, first treatment March 25, 2011. 
Mar'11~ Finally started T-DM1 EAP in Denver at Rocky Mountain Cancer Center/Rose on Mar. 25... hallelujah. 
 
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		 I never drink the day I get my Herceptin, but have alcohol 3-4 times a week. I Just try to be moderate in everything. To me it's about quality of life and I really enjoy a glass of wine in the evening or a cold beer or margarita after a long ride. 
  
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				Diag. Feb 1997 4.5cm IDC <10%ER+, PR-. 5 out of 36 nodes +. Mastectomy followed by 3 rounds Adriamycin/Cytoxin.  
  
 
5/1997 Hi Dose Chemo w/ Stem cell rescue. Spent 4 weeks in isolation ward. Then 6 weeks radiation.  
  
9/2001 widespread mets to liver. 8 mos Taxotere/Herceptin brought me almost to NED. Stop Taxotere & add Femara .  
  
11/2002 liver resection to remove spot that turned out to be necrosis. Officially NED! 
  
7/2003 Tumor markers rising add Xeloda Disastrous reaction, 8 days hospital, but tumor markers came back to normal! 
  
June -Dec 2004 UW Vaccine Trial. 
  
7/2005 MRI single 11mm brain met 
8/2005 Gamma Knife.  
  
Brain MRI @3 months NED! 
  
2006-2011 brain/body still NED  
  
8/04/11 Taking Herceptin break, will monitor with tumor markers.  
  
6/20/12 Tumor markers begin to rise. CA15-3 is 31.3 and Her2 Serum is at 17.1 Decide to repeat in one month. 
  
7/23/12 CA15-3 now 49.3 
Her2 Serum 26.8 
  
8/6/12 Back on Herceptin  
CA15-3 now 76 
Her2 Serum now 49 
  
11/7/12 Add weekly Taxotere for 4 cycles 
  
2/2013 Stopped Taxotere added Perjeta. MRI shows approx. 50% reduction liver mets. CA15-3 still elevated @ 55. Will continue on just Herceptin & Perjeta. 
 
November 2014 Continuing on Herceptin, Perjeta, and   
Femara indefinitely.  Guess I'm NED again, but watching those tumor markers carefully! 
 
Dec. 2015 PET scan reveals mass in perirectal area of abdomen.biopsy confirms. Still Her2+, but no longer ER+.  Bye bye Femara 
 
Jan 2016 Begin Kadcyla 
 
March 2016 PET scan shows tumor now barely visible, still NED everywhere else. 
2016/2017 continue Kadcyla 
 
November 2017 brain MRI reveals small focus of T2 hyperintensity with possible 4mm enhancing nodule.  Short term follow up MRI suggested.  Stay tuned...
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		I hate to post an opposing viewpoint, but I will.  My oncologist gave the stats for increased risk of recurrence per serving of alcohol per week. It wasn't worth the risk to me.  No alcohol is his recommendation. That has been my choice.  I drink sparkling grape juice and nonalcoholic beer with orange slices now.  I LOVE beer and wine, but I want to limit my risk factors where I can. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		Don't every worry about posting a differing viewpoint - we all have lots of those.   And you are doing what is right for you and that's what we all have to do.   I've given up lots of things I used to love but I love life more and feel as you do about reducing risk. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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3/01/10: found lump in rt.breast 
3/12/10: mammogram/ultrasnd/biopsy-invasive bc & DCIS; 2 tumors (2cm er-/pr-/HER2-& 1.8 cm er-/pr-/HER2+); grade 3;poorly differentiated 
3/24/10:sent.node biopsy clear 
3/31/10:bi-lateral mx.;atypical ductal hyperplasia-lft side 
4/21/10:wound revision-infection/scarring 4/28/10:seromas both sides 
5/21/10:port installed,TCH chemo (6 x 3 wks); Herc,-1yr; 33 rad tx after chemo  
07/2010: port not working-2nd port didnt'work;3rd port opposite side. 
07/2010: 2 weeks after 3rd port surgery, threw 3 pulm. emboli-IVC filter installed; warfarin 
08/2010: hospitalizations w/3 of chemos; decision to stop after 4th-on to radiation in Oct 2010;Herc cont. 
12/03/2010 - finished 33 rads Hooray!! cont. Herc. every 3 wks 
4/2011 - pneumonia ??? Nope-radiation pneumonitis. No more Herc. 
5/2011 - NED!!! port out.  
8/2011 - clean PET & CT scans.Still NED 
7/2012 - Still NED/very blessed. 
2/2013 - 6 mos checkup-all clear. CA2729 down frm 13 to 11.
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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