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Old 02-05-2007, 01:08 PM   #1
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Help! Stage 4--Liver Mets

I am writing on behalf of my sister, a 41 year old female with metastatic breast cancer to both the liver and the bone.<o =""></o>

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ALT and AST that are rising, but in the area of 180. She has tried a lot of chemo, most recently, Doxil.

Thanks to some links from this site, I found two options.Her last 3 chemo/biological treatments have done little to nothing to stop porgression and I am therefore looking at procedures directed at the liver tumors.

1) LIIT-Laser Induced Interstital Thermotherapy
2) Sirtex Microspheres

I am starting my search now to find hoospitals that might do these procedures. She lives in Dallas Texas and the closer to her the bbetter

If anyone knows of places that offer these procedures or other treatments I should be looking at, please respond.

I have lurked this sight for years, but nevber posted.

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Thank you,

Colleen
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Old 02-05-2007, 01:17 PM   #2
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Try MD Anderson -

- in Houston. I am sure that being so close you know about this top ranked cancer center.
My thinking would be to start close to home and see what they suggest. Your sister's oncologist must know some of the docs at Anderson, and can get her an appt over there. Seems to me she needs a second opinion anyway.

Looks like she has not had Zometa or anything to help her bones. They can also perhaps do CYBERKNIFE on bone tumors.

I am surprised the way they have jumped her around from drug to drug. Are they sure that some of the "tumors" are not now scar areas? PET/CT lighting up as before?
What about the HER2 serum test? This would also have been a good way to see what the treatments are doing.
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Found suspicious lump 9/2000
Lumpectomy, then node dissection and port placement
Stage IIB, 8 pos nodes of 18, Grade 3, ER & PR -
Adriamycin 12 weekly, taxotere 4 rounds
36 rads - very little burning
3 mos after rads liver full of tumors, Stage IV Jan 2002, one spot on sternum
Weekly Taxol, Navelbine, Herceptin for 27 rounds to NED!
2003 & 2004 no active disease - 3 weekly Herceptin + Zometa
Jan 2005 two mets to brain - Gamma Knife on Jan 18
All clear until treated cerebellum spot showing activity on Jan 2006 brain MRI & brain PET
Brain surgery on Feb 9, 2006 - no cancer, 100% radiation necrosis - tumor was still dying
Continue as NED while on Herceptin & quarterly Zometa
Fall-2006 - off Zometa - watching one small brain spot (scar?)
2007 - spot/scar in brain stable - finished anticoagulation therapy for clot along my port-a-catheter - 3 angioplasties to unblock vena cava
2008 - Brain and body still NED! Port removed and scans in Dec.
Dec 2008 - stop Herceptin - Vaccine Trial at U of W begun in Oct. of 2011
STILL NED everywhere in Feb 2014 - on wing & prayer
7/14 - Started twice yearly Zometa for my bones
Jan. 2015 checkup still shows NED
2015 Neuropathy in feet - otherwise all OK - still NED.
Same news for 2016 and all of 2017.
Nov of 2017 - had small skin cancer removed from my face. Will have Zometa end of Jan. 2018.
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Old 02-05-2007, 02:31 PM   #3
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Here is a link to the center I go to in San Antonio.


http://www.stoh.com/
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Diag. 12/05 at age 60
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Jan - March '06 Taxotere/Adriamycin X 3 to try to shrink tumor - it grew
April '06 Rt Modified Radical Mas, 7 of 9 nodes positive
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Sept - Dec. '06 Navelbine/Herceptin x 8 (dose dense)
Radiation & Herceptin Jan. 22 - March 1, 2007
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Old 02-05-2007, 03:48 PM   #4
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I was in a hurry and only included her most recent treatments. The reason it seems to jump around so much is that each treatment either never worked, or stopped working. The evidence of failure over the past 6 months or so has been evident in her tumor markers, Liver function, and scans.

She is doing something for the bones--I don't remember what--I think a pill, but you are right, they are progressing too.

To date, she has not received any direct treatment to the bone lesions (i.e zapping then with radiation, cyber knife), I guess, because they were not causing symptoms, and we have been focused on the whole body treatment.

Thank you for your response and if anyone is following, please keep any thoughts or ideas coming.

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Old 02-05-2007, 03:58 PM   #5
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Colleen,
In case you need to find other possible treatment options you may look into these sites:

http://jjco.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/c...l/29/8/390#hd9
Multiple Liver Metastases of Breast Cancer: Report of a Case Successfully Treated with Hormone-Cytokine-Chemotherapy

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1024082032.htm
Precision Radiation Therapy Yields Rare Success For Liver Tumors

http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/omega...lls_10334.html
Omega-3 fatty acids inhibit growth of liver cancer cells
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Old 02-05-2007, 04:31 PM   #6
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Colleen:
A friend who had liver mets had ablation surgery at OHSU in Portland, OR. She also found a top surgeon for liver ablation at John Wayne Cancer Center in Santa Monica, CA. I'm in Oregon, so I don't know of any places closer, but the other women are probably right, MD Anderson would be the first place to look.
I send best thoughts to your sister.
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Old 02-05-2007, 05:07 PM   #7
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Hi Colleen,


I am sorry to hear about your sister. I am not sure how many or how large her liver tumours.

Resection is the best option of all and is generally only offered if there are few tumors 1 or 2. ALternatively if there are several tumours: RFA (radio frequency ablation)(available in the US) or Litt (only in Germany), these treatments are quite similar.

Generally before the above treatment is given, it is required that the tumours are controlled i.e. either decreasing with chemo or stable. If they are not, as it seems to be the case for your sister then you can think of chemo-embolisation i.e. TACE or targetted radiation (the name escape me). TACE worked for me and it worked in synergy with my systemic treatment taxotere. I went from six tumours (2 more than 3cm) to 3 tumours (all less than 2 cm) which then could be zapped. I have notice that your sister did not have any taxane (taxotere or taxol) yet. These often give good results.

Good luck, don't let your sister give up, and well done for the support you bring her.

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Aug 06: Stage IV
liver mets: 6 tumours
July 06 to Jan 07: 2*FEC+6*Taxotere; 3*TACE; LITT
March 07- Sept 07: Vaccination trial (phase 2, peptide based) at the UW (Seattle).
Herceptin since 2006
NED til Oct 09
Recurrence Oct 2009: to internal mammary gland since October 2009 missed on Oct and March 2010 scan.. palpable nodes in May 2010 when I realised..
Nov 2011:7 mets to lungs progressing fast failed hercp/tykerb/xeloda combo..

superior vena cava blocked: stent but face remains puffy

April 2012: Teresa Trial, randomised to TDM1
Nov 2012 progressing on TDM1
Dec 2012 blockage of my airways by tumours, obliteration of these blocking tumours breathing better but hoping for more- at mo too many tumours to count in the lungs and nodes.

Dec 2012 Starting new trial S-222611 phase 1b dual egfr her2+ inhibitor.



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