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Old 11-27-2006, 07:14 PM   #1
sunny Lisa
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HI, This is my first time posting and my story. I am 43 yrs old with a 2.5 yr old daughter. I am not brave...I am afraid. I have what they think is DCIS insitu (?) per a core biopsey. I found out later it should have been an open biopsey (changed Dr). I am ER neg and PR neg, HR2+++. The lymphnode under my arm is enlarged to 1.5 cm amd my tumor is palpable at 3cm. The MRI showed extensive cancer moving towards my chest wall and under arm area. I am scheduled for genetic testing on 11/30 and a bi lateral mastectomy 12/1. My choice to have both sides done with reconstruction,silicone implants at the same time. I do not know why I made this choice since I have very little knowledge about what is best. I sopke with an oncologist about Herception and having a port put in during this surgery and he almost tore my head off asking why I thought I would need Herceptin if my nodes turn out to be Neg. He said I do not need treatment if the nodes are neg??? He also said I should ask my husband if I should have both breasts removed!(have consult with new Dr). Pls give me feedback, Thanks, Lisa.
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Old 11-27-2006, 07:39 PM   #2
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Lisa,

Most definitely you need a new doctor. Such arrogance and such an attitude. I get very angry when I hear how some Doctors treat their patients. Shame on him.

I wish you the best. It is scary, but as time goes on and you begin treatment things do settle down a bit.

God Bless you Lisa - His Peace I pray for you.

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Old 11-27-2006, 09:15 PM   #3
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GET A SECOND OPINION.....If you are Her2 +, even with neg nodes, you will still reap a benefit from Herceptin...I had neg nodes, and 5 years ago Herceptin was not available for node neg early stage breast cancer....well 1 1/2 years later I was eligible because I had a recurrence, and now am Stage IV.....
Not only is your oncologist arrogant, he isn't up on the latest breast cancer treatments.....get 2 or 3 or however many opinions...its your life.....and you need to get the best treatment early!
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Diagnosed at age 49.99999 2/21/2002 via Mammography (Calcifications)
Core Biopsy 2/22/02
L. Mastectomy 2/25/2002
Stage 1, 0.7cm IDC, Node Neg from 19 nodes Her2+++ ER PR Neg
6/2003 Reconstruction W/ Tissue Expander, Silicone Implant
9/2003 Stage IV with Mets to Supraclavicular nodes
9/2003 Began Herceptin every 3 weeks
3/2006 Xeloda 2500mg/Herceptin for recurrence to neck nodes
3/2007 Added back the Xeloda with Herceptin for continued mets to nodes
5/2007 Taken Off Xeloda, no longer working
6/14/07 Taxol/Herceptin/Avastin
3/26 - 5/28/08 Taxol Holiday Whopeeeeeeeee
5/29 2008 Back on Taxol w Herceptin q 2 weeks
4/2009 Progression on Taxol & Paralyzed L Vocal Cord from Nodes Pressing on Nerve
5/2009 Begin Rx with Navelbine/Herceptin
11/09 Progression on Navelbine
Fought for and started Tykerb/Herceptin...nodes are melting!!!!!
2/2010 Back to Avastin/Herceptin
5/2010 Switched to Metronomic Chemo with Herceptin...Cytoxan and Methotrexate
Pericardial Window Surgery to Drain Pericardial Effusion
7/2010 Back to walking a mile a day...YEAH!!!!
9/2010 Nodes are back with a vengence in neck
Qualified for TDM-1 EAP
10/6/10 Begin my miracle drug, TDM-1
Mixed response, shrinking internal nodes, progression skin mets after 3 treatments
12/6/10 Started Halaven (Eribulen) /Herceptin excellent results in 2 treatments
2/2011 I CELEBRATE my 9 YEAR MARK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
7/5/11 begin Gemzar /Herceptin for node progression
2/8/2012 Gemzar stopped, Continue Herceptin
2/20/2012 Begin Tomo Radiation to Neck Nodes
2/21/2012 I CELEBRATE 10 YEARS
5/12/2012 BeganTaxotere/ Herceptin is my next miracle for new node progression
6/28/12 Stopped Taxotere due to pregression, Started Perjeta/Herceptin
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Old 11-27-2006, 09:18 PM   #4
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Hi, I'm not brave either. A regular chicken shxt. You've got to do some surgery though. I had a lumpy. You'll never know what choice is right until you're 15 years down the road. I hope you had a consult with a breast surgeon and a plastic surgeon. If you're small breasted, taking out 3cm will leave a divit or pleat. But I guess it could be spread out more, where it might be uglier to do a lumpy.

I don't know why a core biopsy would be containdicated. I had one doc say do an excisional biopsy, the rest said core.

Node neg, but had a 3cm at chest wall. ER and PR+. Finishing Herceptin tomorrow. There's a search link on the purple bar at top of page. Query on Herceptin, Stage II, Stage III.

Nothing wrong with 2nd and 3rd opinion. I would be very surprised if you didn't do Herceptin. I would guess you would do A/C, then taxol and Herceptin. Rads maybe for the nodes?

Hang in there. It gets better eventually. BB
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Old 11-27-2006, 09:34 PM   #5
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Hi Lisa,

Sorry you had to come here, but you came to the right place. You are braver than you think - to NOT be afraid at this point would just be unnatural!

I agree, you need to at the very least get a good second opinion, and in the end find a doctor who you feel will support you and work with you.

I'm not clear, and maybe you don't have enough information yet - but it sounds like SO FAR all that is indicated is DCIS, although it is extensive.

Your onc is correct, it is not "standard protocol" to have chemo or even herceptin if the DCIS is removed, it is only DCIS, and the nodes are negative. If this is the case, however, it is critical that they look very closely for microinvasion - the standard procedure is to just look at a sampling of the tissue. Push for a thorough evaluation.

Here are a couple of recent threads related to this.

http://www.her2support.org/vbulletin...highlight=DCIS

http://www.her2support.org/vbulletin...highlight=DCIS

These threads deal specifically with the question you asked, about when/if to get further treatment of DCIS. Not to scare you, but Her2+++ is a sneaky one, and we must stay vigilant. That said, remember that 99% of DCIS does not recur after it is surgically removed, so the odds are in your favor if there is no indication of invasion in the breast or spread to the nodes.

This is the hardest time of all - the waiting for surgery and to find out what you are dealing with. Then you will be able to move forward with the next decision. Try to take it one step at a time.


Take care
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June 2002 extensive hi grade DCIS (pre-cancer-stage 0, clean sentinal node) Mastectomy/implant - no chemo, rads. "cured?"
9/2004 Diag: Stage IV extensive liver mets (!) ER/PR- Her2+++
10/04-3/05 Weekly Taxol/Carboplatin/Herceptin , complete response!
04/05 - 4/07 Herception every 3 wks, Continue NED
04/07 - recurrence to liver - 2 spots, starting tykerb/avastin trial
06/07 8/07 10/07 Scans show stable, continue on Tykerb/Avastin
01/08 Progression in liver
02/08 Begin (TDM1) trial
08/08 NED! It's Working! Continue on TDM1
02/09 Continue NED
02/10 Continue NED. 5/10 9/10 Scans NED 10/10 Scans NED
12/10 Scans not clear....4/11 Scans suggest progression 6/11 progression confirmed in liver
07/11 - 11/11 Herceptin/Xeloda -not working:(
12/11 Begin MM302 Phase I trial - bust:(
03/12 3rd times the charm? AKT trial

5/12 Scan shows reduction! 7/12 More reduction!!!!
8/12 Whoops...progression...trying for Perjeta/Herceptin (plus some more nasty chemo!)
9/12 Start Perjeta/Herceptin, chemo on hold due to infection/wound in leg, added on cycle 2 &3
11/12 Poops! progression in liver, Stop Perjeta/Taxo/Herc
11/12 Navelbine/Herce[ptin - try for a 3 cycles, no go.
2/13 Gemzar/Carbo/Herceptin - no go.
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Old 11-27-2006, 11:41 PM   #6
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I am sorry you are going through this. I TOO would recommend a second opinion. I was HER2+ and no nodes and just finished my last Herceptin on 8/10/06. You WANT to be aggressive when it comes to this stuff. Take care and God bless.

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2/7/05, Partial Mastectomy
5/18/05 Finished 6 rounds of dose dense TEC (Taxotere, Epirubicin and Cytoxan)
8/1/05 Finished 33 rads
8/18/05 Started Herceptin, every 3 weeks for a year (last one 8/10/06)

2/1/13...8 year Cancerversary and I am "perfect" (at least where cancer is concerned;)


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Old 11-28-2006, 04:25 AM   #7
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Hi Lisa

GET A NEW DOCTOR!! I agree. I was dx.'d in May of this year- 2.2cm, er/pr -, her2+, and 3 positive nodes. I chose to have a double mast. with implants. Glad I made the decision- and by the way- my hubby didn't mind - when your fighting for your life, its amazing what doesn't matter anymore. All I know is that I have 3 beautiful little boys that I want to be here for.

This is the hardest time. It gets easier. If you need someone to talk to, I 'm here.

Love, Kelly
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Old 11-28-2006, 05:37 AM   #8
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Lisa

My heart goes out to you as you make decision on fighting this disease. Don't be afraid to seek a 2nd or 3rd opinion. I went for a 3rd opinion and am so glad I did. (Wished I would have done it sooner!)
Praying for you and your family,
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