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Old 09-01-2006, 06:34 AM   #1
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Unhappy Herceptin appears not working for me

It appears herceptin is not working for me. I have had 3 cycles of herceptin with taxotere. The results from CT scan show liver mets have grown again and I now also probably have brain mets. I'm to have MRI on brain next week to confirm mets. Brain met appears to be appr 1 cm in size with a few smaller ones as well.

I want to thank Joe & Chris for this site - it has been a great resource for me.
I also thank each of you for your posts as this is where ALOT of information is found.

My oncologist hs been looking into getting Tykerb for me for the past few months...now it will need to be in earnest!

To the 'sisters' (& brothers) who frequent this site...THANK YOU!!!

I shall be back from time to time to see how others are doing. Blessings from Minnesota - I'm still on the planet and fighting!

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Old 09-01-2006, 06:54 AM   #2
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Sheryl,
We have contacts at GSK which may help in the process. Feel free to call on us, if necessary.

There are now about 30 sites nationwide who are recruiting into the EAP trials:
http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct/sho...338247?order=1


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Old 09-01-2006, 07:44 AM   #3
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Sheryl...

my thoughts and prayers are with you. Taker care and God bless.

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Old 09-01-2006, 08:12 AM   #4
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I'm thinking of you

Hello Sheryl,

How discouraging. I'm so sorry it is all so whacked out. What has caused the brain met suspicion? If that is the case you know that people here have kicked that and moved on. I know how frustrating it is to bother with a chemo protocol just to have things progress. I also suspect herceptin has stopped working for me. I can't remember all of your history, but other chemos can work great in the liver and of course the Tykerb may be jsut what you need. There may also be a trial of some other her-blockers, etc.
Keep us posted and lost of love to you in Minnesota.
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dx stage I 2/2000*er/pr+; her- per IHC*lumpectomy*4 rounds A/C*30 rads*tamoxifen*dx stage 4 5/2002*huge mets to liver*tiny mets to lungs*stopped tamoxifen*5/02 taxotere/xeloda*her 2 checked with FiSH-her2+++herceptin *2/03 stopped chemo femara w/herceptin*zolodex*04 switched to aromasin w/herceptin*05 high estrogen tx*11/05taxol/carbo*7/06 stopped chemo; megace/herceptin*9/06navelbine/herceptin*5/07tykerb/xeloda great response*4/08 progression in liver; ooph/ faslodex /herceptin
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Old 09-01-2006, 10:55 AM   #5
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Joe thanks for the tykerb website...looks like Duluth will have a site open soon!

Joy, I suspected brain mets as I had what I call little 'poofs' in my head - not frequent, not regular and not like a headache - just not right.

Rhonda - thank you ! prayers for you and HER2 support group & users!
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Old 09-01-2006, 02:50 PM   #6
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Sheryl, Sorry to hear your bad news. Try to remain positive and have your oncologist really push for the Tykerb. My prayers go out to you.
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Old 09-06-2006, 08:41 PM   #7
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Best wishes, my thoughts and prayers are with you.
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Old 09-06-2006, 11:25 PM   #8
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Sheryl,

I hope you soon obtain access to Tykerb.
Get also a look at the just released results of a small trial of Xeloda+Temodar
for metastatic brain cancer in the article section at:
http://www.her2support.org/vbulletin...ad.php?t=25281
Xeloda®/Temodar® Effective for Breast Cancer Spread to Brain

If this regimen is suitable for you your onc may be able to prescribe it off label.
Good luck!
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Old 09-07-2006, 02:06 AM   #9
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Sheryl,

Just want to add another voice of concern and care about your situation. Hope you can join the Duluth trial, which seems to be the best option you have. In the meantime, Omega 3 diet (the ratio with omega 6 is the key) wouldn't hurt although doing overboard could ruin one's appetite. Freshly ground flaxseed with cream cheese or other dairy food allow you to get the nutrition you need while achieving the omega 3 balance. I cannot over emphasize the merit of ganoderma mushroom extract powder which adds the immune power; many of my friends with cancer are doing surprising well with this herb supplement. My prayer is with you.

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Old 09-07-2006, 08:04 AM   #10
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my turn to support you

You are so strong and your attitude is so clear and healthy. I hope you can feel that way about yourself-that you are healthy. I'm sending you quick Tykerb vibes and so hope that WBR is okay for you. Let us know how we can support you.
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Old 09-07-2006, 08:29 AM   #11
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Sheryl,

I'm in east central MN, with brain mets for the third time. The good news is that these 8 have responded well to Xeloda/Temodar; twice showing shrinkage after two rounds each. Six times showing stable.

Have had a small bit of progression to two of the eight, so am back on this combo. I was first dx'd with brain mets four yrs ago (plus a week!)

Also have onc looking into the Tykerb for me...

Just wanted to give you this info, to tuck away in case you find hope in it, for use down the road.

Best of wishes for good response from all your treatments.

with hugs,
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Old 09-07-2006, 12:15 PM   #12
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Patty - did you have any radiation therapy as well? FYI tykerb site in Duluth should be opening soon - I found the info from Joe. Dr Repka (onc) associated with St Lukes in Duluth...good luck!!!

I am looking at WBR as have >5 mets (small). Need to get systemic disease in control (liver) too, so possible Xeloda so long as not interfere with getting tykerb later - or even for now gemzar. Taxanes are out for now...

Thanks!! (I'm near Bemidji - where are you?)
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Old 09-07-2006, 02:34 PM   #13
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Sheryl,

You're a bit north of me: Stanchfield (just so. of Mora-north of Cambridge on hwy 65). I'll pass on this oncs name to my own onc and see what goes...Thanks!

From the info I've found on the Tykerb, you could qualify for it in two ways: not responding to Herceptin as well as for brain mets. And the doses for brain mets are in conjunction with Xeloda, if I'm not mistaken.

Yes, I've had five seperate focalized radiation treatments for a total of 16 other brain mets. The most I had at one time was 14, but not over 1cm in size. These were treated in batches of four with the final 6 done in two CyberKnifes two days apart. I was nearly asymptomatic and we kept a two month MRi schedule, so I could do this. It was over a 12 mo. period for the batch of 14.

The CyberKnfie Center in St. Paul had just opened after my three SRS procedures at ? (phooey- Methodist??), in St. Louis Park... I MUCH preferred the CyberKnife experience. (it was my choice to go this way, fighting all the way).

The mets have been throughout my brain, including brainstem/pons - twice. One of the current 8 is also there.

I had mediastinal node/s, spot on lung and pelvis just prior to first brain mets dx. I did well and reached NED from Navelbine/Herceptin. No other tx except for brain since then. I've been very lucky...

sorry to go on, I seem to do that these days...
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Old 09-07-2006, 02:39 PM   #14
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Hey there! My daughter lives north of Mora in the teeny town of Quamba! Know the area quite well!! Thanks so much for the info and best of luck to you! Perhaps our paths will cross on this journey... :-)
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