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Old 12-23-2005, 12:21 PM   #1
Diane H
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aromatase inhibitors, femara or arimidex

Am interested to know which hormonal blocker is taken, I am on femara. It seems all I hear about is arimidex though, is there an advantage in taking one over the other depending on situation?
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Old 12-23-2005, 01:43 PM   #2
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Hi Diane,

I have no information for you, but I will be interested in how others respond. I have been on tamoxifen for just over two years and still am not post menopausal. Although my oncol thinks by this time next year I will be because it has been very sparse lately. She has told me that I should start thinking about switching over between femora, or one of the other newer drugs. So I will be interested in hearing how others compare these drugs.
How are we supposed to know which one is right for us???
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Old 12-23-2005, 02:39 PM   #3
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arimidex vs. femera

I was just switched off tomaxifen and put on arimidex - b/c of the Her2++ status I was put into menapaus w/ luprene shots. My onc said arimidex is the dug of choice basd on info leared at San Antonio - it supposedly workes btter for those of us who are her2++ and fr those akig Hercpetain. If the patient is experiencing a bad reaction of arimidex then femera or one of the others should be tried .

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Old 12-23-2005, 03:12 PM   #4
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Hi,

Is there a link that says armidex is better for Her2 patients taking Herceptin as I will like to present that to my oncologist.

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Old 12-23-2005, 05:36 PM   #5
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I am no expert on but questions I would look at are;

1. The risk of Tamoxifen causing growth (see below - and I have seen it suggested elsewhere)
2. The side effects of the two. I have posted some links on the menstural cycle post and try looking at Breastcancer.org who have an informative section comparing the side effect of the two. There are big differences in side effects, among others risks of secondary cancers for tamoxifen and bone degredation with arimidex.
3. Generally arimidex is only perscribed to post menopausal which presents another set of issues for those who are premenopausal. For fertile women the issues are life changing and very complex.
4. Out come statistics I have seen seem to suggest arimidex has better (significantly) outcomes statisticaly that tamoxifen.
5. Your fertility views.
6. Your menopause views.
7. Your risk factors.
8. Insurance and cost aspects factors (arimidex from memory is a lot more expensive)

The more one reads the more complex it all is. As somebody who was a total beginner at the begining of the year I can only recommend you read and read and read. Regretably you are not going to find the answers neatly writen out all in one place. Change is happening so fast, opinons vary, regiems in countries and hospitals vary, the level of knowledge in practicioners varies depending on specialism..... An echo of a song comes to mind "it was all so simple then.. but time has rewritten every line".....the cancer learning process is a bit like that.

If you have not had a chance to skin through my lengthy links on the menstal cycle post please do they are thought provoking, and represent a few saved out of very many searches. The first three deal with treatment impact issues on your age group.

As always I am strictly amatuer, all I can do is provoke possible directions of exploration and provide a few links, and wonder why the health profession does not try / manage to provide easier access to guidance on these fundamantal issues.

The information you are seeking does not come in neat packages. I wish it was all so clear cut and effective that it did.

If this seems a bit sharp please excuse me I do not mean to be, the emotional toll of the decisions you are making is unimaginable for me, and I feel indignation for you that the answers are not there, but from all my reading there is no easy way but to spend the time to read it all up if you are the sort of person who needs to understand and know.

RB







http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?I...&date=20050901

Breast cancer drug "can stimulate tumour growth"

Published: 1st September 2005 10:26 CET

A drug prescribed to more than half of all patients suffering from breast cancer can in some cases actually stimulate tumour growth and increase the likelihood of a relapse, Swedish researchers said on Thursday.

The drug, tamoxifen, has since the 1970s been widely prescribed to fight breast cancer since it has shown to counteract the cancer-promoting effects of estrogen in the breast by binding itself to the estrogen receptor in the cancerous cell, thus impeding tumour growth.

According to new research conducted at the Malmö University Hospital, UMAS, in southern Sweden however, the drug can have the opposite effect on certain types of tumours.

"The result shows that tamoxifen is a very efficient treatment for most patients. But for 15 percent of tumours that contain many copies of the cell-splitting gene cyclin D1 tamoxifen however appears to have the opposite effect," researcher Karin Jirström said in a statement.

The study conducted by Jirström and her colleagues was based on examinations of patients from southern Sweden who had been treated with the drug. It was recently published in the US medical journal Cancer Researcher.

"It is important not to draw the conclusion of this study too far ... But this is the first time that patients have been identified on whom the treatment has had the opposite effect," researcher Göran Landberg said in the statement.

"Our findings in Malmö should immediately be tested in other studies to avoid negative effects of this otherwise very effective drug tamoxifen," he added.

AFP
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Old 12-23-2005, 06:30 PM   #6
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I agree completely, for me the best thing is to read whatever I can get my hands on that might have some relevance. Unfortunately I don't always understand what I'm reading! I think it is pretty clear that an aromatase inhibitor is called for when one is definitely post menopausal. And I too have heard that tamoxifen may not work well with herceptin. What I haven't been able to pin down is which aromatase inhibitor works best in which situation. Many thanks for the links, and the sharing of research. Still interested in what aromatase inhibitor everyone is taking, arimidex or femara---
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Old 12-28-2005, 02:34 PM   #7
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arimidex or femara for er+ and pr+ her2+++ bc ?

I think i read on the reports of the recent conference that arimidex had the best results on the ATAC trials with er+ pr- bc, femara as i remember worked equally well with er+ pr+, and er+ pr -, or at least wasnt adversley affected by pr receptor status. I m in my 4 th week of arimidex and have just had my second zoladex injection, so far it s not been too bad, although my GGT levels were elevated in my last blood chemistry i m not sure if that could be down to zoladex arimidex or the 2 glasses of wine i had the week before !! Does anyone know anything more about the best aromatase inhibitors for er and pr receptive bc ? thanks !!
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