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06-15-2011, 01:49 AM
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Low Fat Cheese
Low fat cheese is in the recommended list.My doubt is is low fat goat cheese OK. as it contains saturated fatty oils.
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huband of Hema
Metstatic Breast Cancer Stage 4
Left breast cauliflower 25x20cm
ossousmetstatis in vertbrae secondaries L4=L5secondary
nodules in both liver lobes secondary
Diagnosed 10th March 2010
ER/PR-ve
Her 2 neu +++
Taxotrne Zylotec started 16th March
Herceptin added 5th April.9th Herceptin over on 20th Sep '10.Started on Tykerb and Xeloda on 22nd Oct2010TYKERB 4 TAB A DAY XELODA 4 TAB A DAY ONE WEEK ON ONE WEEK OFFZoletrust infusion every 4 months.Lesion in Brain 3D CRT Radiation started on 1st Feb'12 for 20 days ,5 days a week for 4 weeks.Devloped a small lump in breast.Xeloda stopped from 11th April '12.On Taxol.After 3 cycles of Taxol Taxol stopped.Back to Xeloda regime from 3rd July
Herceptin started again on 27th Dec 2012.Xeloda stopped Navelbin added on 7th February 2013.Now on Tykerb Herceptin and Navelbin
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06-15-2011, 11:30 AM
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Re: Low Fat Cheese
Do cheese packages have nutritional information in your country? You could compare the fat content while shopping or do an online comparison on a good nutrition site for the different brands in your country. I suppose you have to weigh the benefits of calcium, vitamin D and other nutrients against the not so good information about fat.
I save cheese for an occassional treat.
Happy Eating !!
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06-16-2011, 04:06 PM
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Re: Low Fat Cheese
I thought of you and Hema today when I watched the Dr. Oz show Pibikay, because cheese was discussed.
According to Dr. William Li of the Angiogenesis Foundation hard cheeses like Edam, Swiss and Gouda help to stop cancer from spreading, because they contain fair amounts of vitamin K2.
http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/secre...n-fight-cancer
You would still need to find out the fat content of these cheeses, because Dr.Li did not discuss that aspect.
I decided to find out what foods contain vitamin K2 and found these links.
1. http://www.livestrong.com/article/35...in-vitamin-k2/
2. http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?t...rient&dbid=112
It seems fermented foods like hard cheese and natto have vitamin K2, but some people might not want to eat natto, because it is fermented whole soy beans. I however, enjoy a little natto with rice occassionally. I got used to it when I lived in Japan. I will try to stick to the hard cheeses suggested by Dr. Li for an occassional treat too.
Perhaps Tanya would like to share her opinion on this subject too.
Last edited by ElaineM; 06-16-2011 at 04:10 PM..
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06-16-2011, 10:00 PM
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Re: Low Fat Cheese
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06-17-2011, 04:38 AM
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Re: Low Fat Cheese
I generally recommend cheese with caution due to the saturated fat content. However, it is an excellent source of protein and calcium. I do recommend low fat or reduced fat cheeses and they are certainly more palatable than they used to be when they first came out. Portion sizes are very important even with low fat/reduced fat cheese because the saturated fat still adds up quickly. I am familiar with the benefits of Vit K2 in osteoporosis but the preliminary research presented by Dr. Oz was new information for me. Like so many foods, it is likely that cheese offers some anti-cancer benefit but in this case I don't believe more is necessarily better.
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06-17-2011, 02:07 PM
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Re: Low Fat Cheese
Thanks Tanya and Jackie. I really believe that we can influence the outcome of our health problems by what we eat, how we exercise and to some extend improve our environment.
I found a good source for nutritional information about cheese.
http://nutritiondata.self.com/foods-...000000000.html
Just click on the name of the cheese you are interested in and the nutritional data, including the fat content will appear.
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06-17-2011, 02:55 PM
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Re: Low Fat Cheese
I thought dairy was thought to contribute to inflammation cascade..
Guess I'll have to look at the cheesey links above..sitting here in Wisconsin ![Wink](http://her2support.org/vbulletin/images/smilies/wink.gif)
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06-17-2011, 05:55 PM
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Re: Low Fat Cheese
A retrospective research done in Europe last year concluded cheese is good for cancer patient:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20335553
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http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2011/06/doctors-letter-patient-newly-diagnosed-cancer.html
http://www.asco.org/ASCOv2/MultiMedi...=114&trackID=2
NICU 4.4 LB
Erythema Nodosum 85
Life-long Central Neurocytoma 4x5x6.5 cm 23 hrs 62090 semi-coma 10 d PT OT ST 30 d
3 Infertility tmts 99 > 3 u. fibroids > Pills
CN 3 GKRS 52301
IDC 1.2 cm Her2 +++ ER 5% R. Lmptmy SLNB+1 71703 6 FEC 33 R Tamoxifen
Recc IIB 2.5 cm Bi-L Mast 61407 2/9 nds PET
6 TCH Cellulitis - Lymphedema - compression sleeve & glove
H w x 4 MUGA 51 D, J 49 M
Diastasis recti
Tamoxifen B. scan
Irrtbl bowel 1'09
Colonoscopy 313
BRCA1 V1247I
hptc hemangioma
Vertigo
GI - > yogurt
hysterectomy/oophorectomy 011410
Exemestane 25 mg tab 102912 ~ 101016 stopped due to r. hip/l.thigh pain after long walk
DEXA 1/13
1-2016 lesions in liver largest 9mm & 1.3 cm onco. says not cancer.
3-11 Appendectomy - visually O.K., a lot of puss. Final path result - not cancer.
Start Vitamin D3 and Calcium supplement (600mg x2)
10-10 Stopped Exemestane due to r. hip/l.thigh pain OKed by Onco 11-08-2016
7-23-2018 9 mm groundglass nodule within the right lower lobe with indolent behavior. Due to possible adenocarcinoma, Recommend annual surveilence.
7-10-2019 CT to check lung nodule.
1-10-2020 8mm stable nodule on R Lung, two 6mm new ones on L Lung, a possible lymph node involvement in inter fissule.
"I WANT TO BE AN OUTRAGEOUS OLD WOMAN WHO NEVER GETS CALLED AN OLD LADY. I WANT TO GET SHARP EDGED & EARTH COLORED, TILL I FADE AWAY FROM PURE JOY." Irene from Tampa
Advocacy is a passion .. not a pastime - Joe
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06-18-2011, 11:48 AM
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Re: Low Fat Cheese
Good link Jackie. Thanks.
Rich, the link I included to find out the fat content of cheese also has information on the inflammatory levels of the food, so we can choose a low fat cheese with some vitamin K that has a relatively low inflammatory factor.
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07-06-2011, 03:40 AM
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Re: Low Fat Cheese
Thanks Jackie.Somehow I missed it earlier
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PBK
huband of Hema
Metstatic Breast Cancer Stage 4
Left breast cauliflower 25x20cm
ossousmetstatis in vertbrae secondaries L4=L5secondary
nodules in both liver lobes secondary
Diagnosed 10th March 2010
ER/PR-ve
Her 2 neu +++
Taxotrne Zylotec started 16th March
Herceptin added 5th April.9th Herceptin over on 20th Sep '10.Started on Tykerb and Xeloda on 22nd Oct2010TYKERB 4 TAB A DAY XELODA 4 TAB A DAY ONE WEEK ON ONE WEEK OFFZoletrust infusion every 4 months.Lesion in Brain 3D CRT Radiation started on 1st Feb'12 for 20 days ,5 days a week for 4 weeks.Devloped a small lump in breast.Xeloda stopped from 11th April '12.On Taxol.After 3 cycles of Taxol Taxol stopped.Back to Xeloda regime from 3rd July
Herceptin started again on 27th Dec 2012.Xeloda stopped Navelbin added on 7th February 2013.Now on Tykerb Herceptin and Navelbin
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