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Old 02-10-2008, 05:59 PM   #1
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Question What do you think???

My GF sent me this today. Many of you have probably read it already but your thoughts are welcomed. I am still throwing up. I feel like each day I am weaker. I am not done with the fight, but I'm done with the poisonings. i will take Herceptin, but no more taxotere....unless they can convince me otherwise.

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> AFTER YEARS OF TELLING PEOPLE CHEMOTHERAPY IS THE ONLY WAY TO TRY ("TRY, BEING
> THE KEY WORD) TO ELIMINATE CANCER, JOHNS HOPKINS IS FINALLY STARTING TO TELL YOU
> THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE WAY.
>
> Cancer Update from Johns Hopkins:
>
> 1. Every person has cancer cells in the body. These cancer cells do not show
> up in the standard tests until they have multiplied to a few billion. When
> doctors tell cancer patients that there are no more cancer cells in their bodies
> after treatment, it just means the tests are unable to detect the cancer cells
> because they have not reached the detectable size.
>
> 2. Cancer cells occur between 6 to more than 10 times in a person's lifetime.
>
> 3. When the person's immune system is strong the cancer cells will be
> destroyed and prevented from multiplying and forming tumors.
>
> 4. When a person has cancer it indicates the person has multiple nutritional
> deficiencies. These could be due to genetic, environmental, food and lifestyle
> factors.
>
> 5. To overcome the multiple nutritional deficiencies, changing diet and
> including supplements will strengthen the immune system.
>
> 6. Chemotherapy involves poisoning the rapidly-growing cancer cells and also
> destroys rapidly-growing healthy cells in the bone marrow, gastrointestinal
> tract etc, and can cause organ damage, like liver, kidneys, heart, lungs etc.
>
> 7. Radiation, while destroying cancer cells, also burns, scars and damages
> healthy cells, tissues and organs.
>
> 8. Initial treatment with chemotherapy and radiation will often reduce tumor
> size. However, prolonged use of chemotherapy and radiation do not result in
> more tumor destruction.
>
> 9. When the body has too much toxic burden from chemotherapy and radiation,
> the immune system is either compromised or destroyed; hence, the person can
> succumb to various kinds of infections and complications.
>
> 10. Chemotherapy and radiation can cause cancer cells to mutate and become
> resistant and difficult to destroy. Surgery can also cause cancer cells to
> spread to other sites.
>
> 11. An effective way to battle cancer is to starve the cancer cells by not
> feeding it with the foods it needs to multiply.
>
>
> CANCER CELLS FEED ON:
>
> a. Sugar is a cancer-feeder. By cutting off sugar it cuts off one important
> food supply to the cancer cells. Sugar substitutes like NutraSweet, Equal,
> Spoonful, etc. are made with Aspartame and it is harmful. A better natural
> substitute would be Manuka honey or molasses but only in very small amounts.
> Table salt has a chemical added to make it white in colour. Better alternative
> is Bragg's aminos or sea salt.
>
> b. Milk causes the body to produce mucus, especially in the gastro-intestinal
> tract. Cancer feeds on mucus. By cutting off milk and substituting with
> unsweetened soy milk, cancer cells are being starved.
>
> c. Cancer cells thrive in an acid environment. A meat-based diet is acidic
> and it is best to eat fish, and a little chicken rather than beef or pork. Meat
> also contains livestock antibiotics, growth hormones and parasites, which are
> all harmful, especially to people with cancer.
>
> d. A diet made of 80% fresh vegetables and juice, whole grains, seeds, nuts
> and a little fruits help put the body into an alkaline environment. About 20%
> can be from cooked food including beans. Fresh vegetable juices provide live
> enzymes that are easily absorbed and reach down to cellular levels within 15
> minutes to nourish and enhance growth of healthy cells. To obtain live enzymes
> for building healthy cells, try and drink fresh vegetable juice (most vegetables
> including bean sprouts) and eat some raw vegetables 2 or 3 times a day. Enzymes
> are destroyed at temperatures of 104 degrees F (40 degrees C).
>
> e. Avoid coffee, tea, and chocolate, which have high caffeine. Green tea is a
> better alternative and has cancer fighting properties. Water - best to drink
> purified water, or filtered, to avoid known toxins and heavy metals in tap
> water. Distilled water is acidic, avoid it.
>
>
>
> 12. Meat protein is difficult to digest and requires a lot of digestive
> enzymes. Undigested meat remaining in the intestines become putrified and leads
> to more toxic buildup.
>
> 13. Cancer cell walls have a tough protein covering. By refraining from or
> eating less meat it frees more enzymes to attack the protein walls of cancer
> cells and allows the body's killer cells to destroy the cancer cells.
>
> 14. Some supplements build up the immune system (IP6, Flor-ssence, Essiac,
> anti-oxidants, vitamins, minerals, EFAs etc.) to enable the body's own killer
> cells to destroy cancer cells. Other supplements like vitamin E are known to
> cause apoptosis, or programmed cell death, the body's normal method of disposing
> of damaged, unwanted, or unneeded cells.
>
> 15. Cancer is a disease of the mind, body, and spirit. A proactive and
> positive spirit will help the cancer warrior be a survivor. Anger,
> unforgiveness and bitterness put the body into a stressful and acidic
> environment. Learn to have a loving and forgiving spirit. Learn to relax and
> enjoy life.
>
> 16. Cancer cells cannot thrive in an oxygenated environment. Exercising daily,
> and deep breathing help to get more oxygen down to the cellular level. Oxygen
> therapy is another means employed to destroy cancer cells.
>
>
>
> CANCER UPDATE FROM JOHN HOPKINS HOSPITAL - PLEASE READ
>
> 1. No plastic containers in micro.
>
> 2. No water bottles in freezer.
>
> 3. No plastic wrap in microwave.
>
> Johns Hopkins has recently sent this out in its newsletters. This information
> is being circulated at Walter Reed Army Medical Center as well. Dioxin
> chemicals causes cancer, especially breast cancer. Dioxins are highly poisonous
> to the cells of our bodies. Don't freeze your plastic bottles with water in
> them as this releases dioxins from the plastic. Recently, Dr. Edward Fujimoto,
> Wellness Program Manager at Castle Hospital, was on a TV program to explain this
> health hazard. He talked about dioxins and how bad they are for us. He said
> that we should not be heating our food in the microwave using plastic
> containers. This especially applies to foods that contain fat. He said that
> the combination of fat, high heat, and plastics releases dioxin into the food
> and ultimately into the cells of the body.
>
> Instead, he recommends using glass, such as Corning Ware, Pyrex, or ceramic
> containers for heating food. You get the same results, only without the dioxin.
> So such things as TV dinners, instant ramen and soups, etc., should be removed
> from the container and heated in something else. Paper isn't bad but you don't
> know what is in the paper. It's just safer to use tempered glass, Corning Ware,
> etc. He reminded us that a while ago some of the fast food restaurants moved
> away from the foam containers to paper. The dioxin problem is one of the
> reasons.
>
> Also, he pointed out that plastic wrap, such as Saran, is just as dangerous when
> placed over foods to be cooked in the microwave. As the food is nuked, the high
> heat causes poisonous toxins to actually melt out of the plastic wrap and drip
> into the food. Cover food with a paper towel instead.
>
>
>
> This is an article that should be sent to anyone important in your life.






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Invasive Ductal Carcinoma
ER/PR- negative, HER2- positive
Stage 11 with tumor size 3.5cm, .7cm satelite node
Sx Oct 2nd/07
Skin sparing mastectomy of left breast
immediate reconstruction DIEP flap
Nodes 0/3 Sentinal Node Biopsy
Chemo started Nov, 3 rounds FEC and 3 rounds Taxotere and Herceptin every three weeks
Radiation 28 Tx ended on June 13/08
Herceptin was stopped due to falling MUGA score (went from 62 down to 42)
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Old 02-10-2008, 06:17 PM   #2
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This above report is bogus according to Snopes. Johns Hopkins has disclaimed issuing it. Check out Snopes.com
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Post menopause
May 2007 Core biopsy, Rt breast
ER+, Pr-, HER2 +++, Grade 3
Ki-67: 90%
"suspicious area" left breast
Bilateral mastectomy, (NED on left) May 2007
Sentinel Node Neg
Stage 1, DCIS with microinvasion, 3 mm, mostly removed during the biopsy....
Femara (discontinued 7/07) Resumed 10/07
OncoType score 36 (July 07)
Began THC 7/26/07 (d/c taxol and carboplatin 10/07)
Began Herceptin alone 10/07
Finished Herceptin July /08
D/C Femara 4/10 (joint pain/trigger thumb!)
5/10 mistakenly dx with lung cancer. Middle rt lobe removed!
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Old 02-10-2008, 06:18 PM   #3
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It certainly make sense. I have copied and pasted it to my file in the computer. Thanks.
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Life-long Central Neurocytoma 4x5x6.5 cm 23 hrs 62090 semi-coma 10 d PT OT ST 30 d
3 Infertility tmts 99 > 3 u. fibroids > Pills
CN 3 GKRS 52301
IDC 1.2 cm Her2 +++ ER 5% R. Lmptmy SLNB+1 71703 6 FEC 33 R Tamoxifen
Recc IIB 2.5 cm Bi-L Mast 61407 2/9 nds PET
6 TCH Cellulitis - Lymphedema - compression sleeve & glove
H w x 4 MUGA 51 D, J 49 M
Diastasis recti
Tamoxifen B. scan
Irrtbl bowel 1'09
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hptc hemangioma
Vertigo
GI - > yogurt
hysterectomy/oophorectomy 011410
Exemestane 25 mg tab 102912 ~ 101016 stopped due to r. hip/l.thigh pain after long walk
DEXA 1/13
1-2016 lesions in liver largest 9mm & 1.3 cm onco. says not cancer.
3-11 Appendectomy - visually O.K., a lot of puss. Final path result - not cancer.
Start Vitamin D3 and Calcium supplement (600mg x2)
10-10 Stopped Exemestane due to r. hip/l.thigh pain OKed by Onco 11-08-2016
7-23-2018 9 mm groundglass nodule within the right lower lobe with indolent behavior. Due to possible adenocarcinoma, Recommend annual surveilence.
7-10-2019 CT to check lung nodule.
1-10-2020 8mm stable nodule on R Lung, two 6mm new ones on L Lung, a possible lymph node involvement in inter fissule.
"I WANT TO BE AN OUTRAGEOUS OLD WOMAN WHO NEVER GETS CALLED AN OLD LADY. I WANT TO GET SHARP EDGED & EARTH COLORED, TILL I FADE AWAY FROM PURE JOY." Irene from Tampa

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Old 02-10-2008, 06:20 PM   #4
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It certainly makes sense. I will try to follow the guideline from now on. Thanks.
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http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2011/06/doctors-letter-patient-newly-diagnosed-cancer.html
http://www.asco.org/ASCOv2/MultiMedi...=114&trackID=2

NICU 4.4 LB
Erythema Nodosum 85
Life-long Central Neurocytoma 4x5x6.5 cm 23 hrs 62090 semi-coma 10 d PT OT ST 30 d
3 Infertility tmts 99 > 3 u. fibroids > Pills
CN 3 GKRS 52301
IDC 1.2 cm Her2 +++ ER 5% R. Lmptmy SLNB+1 71703 6 FEC 33 R Tamoxifen
Recc IIB 2.5 cm Bi-L Mast 61407 2/9 nds PET
6 TCH Cellulitis - Lymphedema - compression sleeve & glove
H w x 4 MUGA 51 D, J 49 M
Diastasis recti
Tamoxifen B. scan
Irrtbl bowel 1'09
Colonoscopy 313
BRCA1 V1247I
hptc hemangioma
Vertigo
GI - > yogurt
hysterectomy/oophorectomy 011410
Exemestane 25 mg tab 102912 ~ 101016 stopped due to r. hip/l.thigh pain after long walk
DEXA 1/13
1-2016 lesions in liver largest 9mm & 1.3 cm onco. says not cancer.
3-11 Appendectomy - visually O.K., a lot of puss. Final path result - not cancer.
Start Vitamin D3 and Calcium supplement (600mg x2)
10-10 Stopped Exemestane due to r. hip/l.thigh pain OKed by Onco 11-08-2016
7-23-2018 9 mm groundglass nodule within the right lower lobe with indolent behavior. Due to possible adenocarcinoma, Recommend annual surveilence.
7-10-2019 CT to check lung nodule.
1-10-2020 8mm stable nodule on R Lung, two 6mm new ones on L Lung, a possible lymph node involvement in inter fissule.
"I WANT TO BE AN OUTRAGEOUS OLD WOMAN WHO NEVER GETS CALLED AN OLD LADY. I WANT TO GET SHARP EDGED & EARTH COLORED, TILL I FADE AWAY FROM PURE JOY." Irene from Tampa

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Old 02-10-2008, 06:20 PM   #5
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This is a hoax that has been around for several years. Check it out on snopes.com the site for urban legends.
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Old 02-10-2008, 06:20 PM   #6
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I think much of this is true, and in fact I have read all of this before. I would be curious to know the exact source of this information - it sound to me much like Dr. Patrick Quillen's work in his book "Beating Cancer with Nutrition". Perhaps this was an excerpt from his work? Or something else I've read, beacause heaven knows I've read a LOT of things in my search for things that might tip the scales in my favor. An important thing to note is, once you HAVE cancer, it's a bigger deal than preventing it via these strategies.

At any rate, I found that book very informative, very evidence-based with a lot of good data behind it. If you haven't read it, I highly recommend it.

I'm would be pleased to hear this type of information is being distributed by well respected organizations such as Johns Hopkins - but am skeptical unless it's their complementary medicine group.

I think that (complementary) is the operative word. I seriously doubt that this is recommended as an ALTERNATIVE, but rather as a COMPLEMENT to, other types of treatments. My take on Quillen's book, for example, was that you incorporate lifestyle modifications and minimize, or restrain, the use of toxic therapies.

I think adopting any or all of the recommendations you include would be a reasonable move. My personal opinion, tho, is that dropping the taxotere at this point is risky business. If it were me, I'd get help with the side effects and stick it out while building and replenishing my immunity with the complementary therapies.

Just my opinion. But I do highly recommend Quillen's book!
Hang in there
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June 2002 extensive hi grade DCIS (pre-cancer-stage 0, clean sentinal node) Mastectomy/implant - no chemo, rads. "cured?"
9/2004 Diag: Stage IV extensive liver mets (!) ER/PR- Her2+++
10/04-3/05 Weekly Taxol/Carboplatin/Herceptin , complete response!
04/05 - 4/07 Herception every 3 wks, Continue NED
04/07 - recurrence to liver - 2 spots, starting tykerb/avastin trial
06/07 8/07 10/07 Scans show stable, continue on Tykerb/Avastin
01/08 Progression in liver
02/08 Begin (TDM1) trial
08/08 NED! It's Working! Continue on TDM1
02/09 Continue NED
02/10 Continue NED. 5/10 9/10 Scans NED 10/10 Scans NED
12/10 Scans not clear....4/11 Scans suggest progression 6/11 progression confirmed in liver
07/11 - 11/11 Herceptin/Xeloda -not working:(
12/11 Begin MM302 Phase I trial - bust:(
03/12 3rd times the charm? AKT trial

5/12 Scan shows reduction! 7/12 More reduction!!!!
8/12 Whoops...progression...trying for Perjeta/Herceptin (plus some more nasty chemo!)
9/12 Start Perjeta/Herceptin, chemo on hold due to infection/wound in leg, added on cycle 2 &3
11/12 Poops! progression in liver, Stop Perjeta/Taxo/Herc
11/12 Navelbine/Herce[ptin - try for a 3 cycles, no go.
2/13 Gemzar/Carbo/Herceptin - no go.
3/13 TACE procedure

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Old 02-10-2008, 06:24 PM   #7
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But Johns Hopkins has denied issuing either of these reports. Check the site Snopes.com . It is a great reference site to check out the validity of "facts" that come across the Internet.
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Post menopause
May 2007 Core biopsy, Rt breast
ER+, Pr-, HER2 +++, Grade 3
Ki-67: 90%
"suspicious area" left breast
Bilateral mastectomy, (NED on left) May 2007
Sentinel Node Neg
Stage 1, DCIS with microinvasion, 3 mm, mostly removed during the biopsy....
Femara (discontinued 7/07) Resumed 10/07
OncoType score 36 (July 07)
Began THC 7/26/07 (d/c taxol and carboplatin 10/07)
Began Herceptin alone 10/07
Finished Herceptin July /08
D/C Femara 4/10 (joint pain/trigger thumb!)
5/10 mistakenly dx with lung cancer. Middle rt lobe removed!
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Old 02-10-2008, 06:54 PM   #8
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I have found this on the Johns Hopkins site. It does provide some
kind of advice on how to avoid the problem.
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NICU 4.4 LB
Erythema Nodosum 85
Life-long Central Neurocytoma 4x5x6.5 cm 23 hrs 62090 semi-coma 10 d PT OT ST 30 d
3 Infertility tmts 99 > 3 u. fibroids > Pills
CN 3 GKRS 52301
IDC 1.2 cm Her2 +++ ER 5% R. Lmptmy SLNB+1 71703 6 FEC 33 R Tamoxifen
Recc IIB 2.5 cm Bi-L Mast 61407 2/9 nds PET
6 TCH Cellulitis - Lymphedema - compression sleeve & glove
H w x 4 MUGA 51 D, J 49 M
Diastasis recti
Tamoxifen B. scan
Irrtbl bowel 1'09
Colonoscopy 313
BRCA1 V1247I
hptc hemangioma
Vertigo
GI - > yogurt
hysterectomy/oophorectomy 011410
Exemestane 25 mg tab 102912 ~ 101016 stopped due to r. hip/l.thigh pain after long walk
DEXA 1/13
1-2016 lesions in liver largest 9mm & 1.3 cm onco. says not cancer.
3-11 Appendectomy - visually O.K., a lot of puss. Final path result - not cancer.
Start Vitamin D3 and Calcium supplement (600mg x2)
10-10 Stopped Exemestane due to r. hip/l.thigh pain OKed by Onco 11-08-2016
7-23-2018 9 mm groundglass nodule within the right lower lobe with indolent behavior. Due to possible adenocarcinoma, Recommend annual surveilence.
7-10-2019 CT to check lung nodule.
1-10-2020 8mm stable nodule on R Lung, two 6mm new ones on L Lung, a possible lymph node involvement in inter fissule.
"I WANT TO BE AN OUTRAGEOUS OLD WOMAN WHO NEVER GETS CALLED AN OLD LADY. I WANT TO GET SHARP EDGED & EARTH COLORED, TILL I FADE AWAY FROM PURE JOY." Irene from Tampa

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Old 02-10-2008, 06:59 PM   #9
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Johns Hopkins denied it because it was listed on the Mayo Clinic site.
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http://www.asco.org/ASCOv2/MultiMedi...=114&trackID=2

NICU 4.4 LB
Erythema Nodosum 85
Life-long Central Neurocytoma 4x5x6.5 cm 23 hrs 62090 semi-coma 10 d PT OT ST 30 d
3 Infertility tmts 99 > 3 u. fibroids > Pills
CN 3 GKRS 52301
IDC 1.2 cm Her2 +++ ER 5% R. Lmptmy SLNB+1 71703 6 FEC 33 R Tamoxifen
Recc IIB 2.5 cm Bi-L Mast 61407 2/9 nds PET
6 TCH Cellulitis - Lymphedema - compression sleeve & glove
H w x 4 MUGA 51 D, J 49 M
Diastasis recti
Tamoxifen B. scan
Irrtbl bowel 1'09
Colonoscopy 313
BRCA1 V1247I
hptc hemangioma
Vertigo
GI - > yogurt
hysterectomy/oophorectomy 011410
Exemestane 25 mg tab 102912 ~ 101016 stopped due to r. hip/l.thigh pain after long walk
DEXA 1/13
1-2016 lesions in liver largest 9mm & 1.3 cm onco. says not cancer.
3-11 Appendectomy - visually O.K., a lot of puss. Final path result - not cancer.
Start Vitamin D3 and Calcium supplement (600mg x2)
10-10 Stopped Exemestane due to r. hip/l.thigh pain OKed by Onco 11-08-2016
7-23-2018 9 mm groundglass nodule within the right lower lobe with indolent behavior. Due to possible adenocarcinoma, Recommend annual surveilence.
7-10-2019 CT to check lung nodule.
1-10-2020 8mm stable nodule on R Lung, two 6mm new ones on L Lung, a possible lymph node involvement in inter fissule.
"I WANT TO BE AN OUTRAGEOUS OLD WOMAN WHO NEVER GETS CALLED AN OLD LADY. I WANT TO GET SHARP EDGED & EARTH COLORED, TILL I FADE AWAY FROM PURE JOY." Irene from Tampa

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Old 02-10-2008, 07:10 PM   #10
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Sorry. I meant that I found the answer posted by the Mayo Clinic people.
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http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2011/06/doctors-letter-patient-newly-diagnosed-cancer.html
http://www.asco.org/ASCOv2/MultiMedi...=114&trackID=2

NICU 4.4 LB
Erythema Nodosum 85
Life-long Central Neurocytoma 4x5x6.5 cm 23 hrs 62090 semi-coma 10 d PT OT ST 30 d
3 Infertility tmts 99 > 3 u. fibroids > Pills
CN 3 GKRS 52301
IDC 1.2 cm Her2 +++ ER 5% R. Lmptmy SLNB+1 71703 6 FEC 33 R Tamoxifen
Recc IIB 2.5 cm Bi-L Mast 61407 2/9 nds PET
6 TCH Cellulitis - Lymphedema - compression sleeve & glove
H w x 4 MUGA 51 D, J 49 M
Diastasis recti
Tamoxifen B. scan
Irrtbl bowel 1'09
Colonoscopy 313
BRCA1 V1247I
hptc hemangioma
Vertigo
GI - > yogurt
hysterectomy/oophorectomy 011410
Exemestane 25 mg tab 102912 ~ 101016 stopped due to r. hip/l.thigh pain after long walk
DEXA 1/13
1-2016 lesions in liver largest 9mm & 1.3 cm onco. says not cancer.
3-11 Appendectomy - visually O.K., a lot of puss. Final path result - not cancer.
Start Vitamin D3 and Calcium supplement (600mg x2)
10-10 Stopped Exemestane due to r. hip/l.thigh pain OKed by Onco 11-08-2016
7-23-2018 9 mm groundglass nodule within the right lower lobe with indolent behavior. Due to possible adenocarcinoma, Recommend annual surveilence.
7-10-2019 CT to check lung nodule.
1-10-2020 8mm stable nodule on R Lung, two 6mm new ones on L Lung, a possible lymph node involvement in inter fissule.
"I WANT TO BE AN OUTRAGEOUS OLD WOMAN WHO NEVER GETS CALLED AN OLD LADY. I WANT TO GET SHARP EDGED & EARTH COLORED, TILL I FADE AWAY FROM PURE JOY." Irene from Tampa

Advocacy is a passion .. not a pastime - Joe
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Old 02-10-2008, 06:23 PM   #11
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This is not being distributed by Johns Hopkins at all.
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