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			12-02-2007, 10:58 AM
			
							
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				Need Help - Brain Mets
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
		Hello, 
  
My mother has had brain mets for about 1.5 years. First time she underwent WBR - clear and then came back again. She then took Temodar - disease progressed. The Onc added Navelbine with Herceptin, and I also asked mom to take Boswella Serata based on Lani's post some time ago. The disease decrease by half. On her next scan the lesions grew very little and it is at this time (about 8 months ago) that mom was put on Tykerb/Xeloda combo (she was still taking Boswella Serata). 4 months ago her scans came out clear. Currently she is vacationing in the US to visit her first grand child, but in the past 3 days she has been wavering quite a bit when she walks i.e. she moves away from a straight line. She also is getting sporadic headaches. I have read enough to be worried of these symptoms. She does not have insurance here, so we are unsure of what to do...however if there is a treatment that is applicable to her such as CyberKnife etc we can pay for it..back home we do not have this technology..so please feel free to advise.  
  
We called her onc and she has prescribed Decadron for now (mom is still on Tykerb without Xeloda for the past 2 months). She will take her scan once she gets back i.e. Dec 18,2007 
  
Please, if you have had any success on treatments or state of art methodoligies, please advise. 
  
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Shahyan 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			12-02-2007, 03:24 PM
			
							
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		 Shahyan,  
  
I had a small brain met that was treated with CyberKnife and my last brain MRI showed all clear.  The procedure was completely painless and took about an hour and a half.  There is also GammaKnife.  I would suggest that  your mom get a brain MRI as soon as possible and then you can move forward.  I'll keep her in my prayers. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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Stage IIIC Diagnosed Oct 25, 2005 (age 58) 
ER/PR-, HER2+++, grade 3, Ploidy/DNA index: Aneuploid/1.61, S-phase: 24.2% 
Neoadjunct chemo: 4 A/C; 4 Taxatore  
Bilateral mastectomy June 8, 2006 
14 of 26 nodes positive 
Herceptin June 22, 2006 - April 20, 2007 
Radiation (X35) July 24-September 11, 2006  
BRCA1/BRCA2 negative 
Stage IV lung mets July 13, 2007 - TCH 
Single brain met - August 6, 2007 -CyberKnife  
Oct 2007 - clear brain MRI and lung mets shrinking.  
March 2008 lung met progression, brain still clear - begin Tykerb/Xeloda/Ixempra
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			12-02-2007, 07:41 PM
			
							
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		 I second Kate's advice.  There are options out there....but you need to find out what is happening first. 
  
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10/03 Radical Mastectomy 3 cm tumor - 1/17 Nodes Stage II B, Her 2 +++ ER-/PR- 11/03 4 AC 4 Taxol 12/05 Stage IV - Lung met , Bone mets - Carbo, Taxotere, Herceptin 9/06 - 2 cm brain tumor 10/06 - Tumor removal surgery - Herceptin Halted 12/06 gamma knife tumor base.1/07 Navelbine/Herceptin 4/07 Rads to R femur 5/07 Stereotactic - new 2 cm brain tumor 4/07 Start Xeloda 5/07 Tykerb added 7/07 Brain MRI clean 10/07 .055 cm brain met found. 12/07 Stereotactic -1 cm brain tumor Start Tykerb 11/07 Abraxane/Herceptin 5/08 Cisplatin, Gemcitabine/Herceptin 6/08 Stereotactic to 1cm 9/08 Stereotactic repeat (growth). 11/08 Pet Scan Good but new tiny met on L lung/dead Brain surgery (no cancer cells found/scar tissue) 1/09 Chemo restarted 2/09 Pet Scan Bad - R larger very active/active L active lymph nodes both sides of chest MRI- mets slight increase 2/09 Start Doxil/Tykerb Treatment 
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			12-03-2007, 07:29 AM
			
							
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		 Thank you for your responses & Lani thanks for your PM. I have one question - can a person do CyberKnife etc if she has undergone WBR? 
  
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			12-03-2007, 07:34 AM
			
							
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		 Shahyan, 
  
Yes you can have CyberKnife even though you've had WBR.  The advantage of CyberKnife is that you don't have to stop chemo treatment like you do with WBR.  Please keep us updated. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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Stage IIIC Diagnosed Oct 25, 2005 (age 58) 
ER/PR-, HER2+++, grade 3, Ploidy/DNA index: Aneuploid/1.61, S-phase: 24.2% 
Neoadjunct chemo: 4 A/C; 4 Taxatore  
Bilateral mastectomy June 8, 2006 
14 of 26 nodes positive 
Herceptin June 22, 2006 - April 20, 2007 
Radiation (X35) July 24-September 11, 2006  
BRCA1/BRCA2 negative 
Stage IV lung mets July 13, 2007 - TCH 
Single brain met - August 6, 2007 -CyberKnife  
Oct 2007 - clear brain MRI and lung mets shrinking.  
March 2008 lung met progression, brain still clear - begin Tykerb/Xeloda/Ixempra
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			12-03-2007, 10:52 AM
			
							
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		 Where is she in the US? Perhaps some of us can refer you to doctors in the area near to where she is... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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 NOV 2012 - 9 yr anniversary 
JULY 2012 - 7 yr anniversary stage IV (of 50...) 
  
 Nov'03~ dX stage 2B  
Dec'03~ Rt side mastectomy, Her2+, ER/PR+, 10 nodes out, one node positive  
Jan'04~ Taxotere/Adria/Cytoxan x 6, NED, no Rads, Tamox. 1 year, Arimadex 3 mo., NED 14 mo.   
Sept'05~ micro mets lungs/chest nodes/underarm node, Switched to Aromasin, T/C/H x 7, NED 6 months - Herceptin only  
Aug'06~ micro mets chest nodes, & bone spot @ C3 neck, Added Taxol to Herceptin  
Feb'07~ Genetic testing, BRCA 1&2 neg  
Apr'07~ MRI - two 9mm brain mets & 5 punctates, new left chest met, & small increase of bone spot C3 neck, Stopped Aromasin  
May'07~ Started Tykerb/Xeloda, no WBR for now  
June'07~ MRI  - stable brain mets, no new mets, 9mm spots less enhanced, CA15.3 down 45.5 to 9.3 in 10 wks, Ty/Xel working magic!  
Aug'07~ MRI - brain mets shrunk half, NO NEW BRAIN METS!!, TMs stable @ 9.2  
Oct'07~ PET/CT & MRI show NED  
Apr'08~ scans still show NED in the head, small bone spot on right iliac crest (rear pelvic bone) 
Sept'08~ MRI shows activity in brain mets, completed 5 fractions/5 consecutive days of IMRT to zap the pesky buggers 
Oct'08~ dropped Xeloda, switched to tri-weekly Herceptin in combo with Tykerb, extend to tri-monthly Zometa infusion 
Dec'08~ Brain MRI- 4 spots reduced to punctate size, large spot shrunk by 3mm, CT of torso clear/pelvis spot stable  
June'09~ new 3-4mm left cerrebellar spot zapped with IMRT targeted rads  
Sept'09~ new 6mm & 1 cm spots in pituitary/optic chiasm area. Rx= 25 days of 3D conformal fractionated targeted IMRT to the tumors. 
Oct'09~ 25 days of low dose 3D conformal fractionated targeted IMRT to the bone mets spot on rt. iliac crest that have been watching for 2 years. Added daily Aromasin back into treatment regimen. 
Apr'10~ Brain MRI clear! But, see new small spot on adrenal gland. Change from Aromasin back to Tamoxifen. 
June'10~ Tumor markers (CA15.3) dropped from 37 to 23 after one month on Tamoxifen. Continue to monitor adrenal gland spot. Remain on Tykerb/Herceptin/Tamoxifen. 
Nov'10~ Radiate positive mediastinal node that was pressing on recurrent laryngeal nerve, causing paralyzed larynx and a funny voice. 
Jan'11~ MRI shows possible activity or perhaps just scar tissue/necrotic increase on 3 previously treated brain spots and a pituitary spot. 5 days of IMRT on 4 spots. 
Feb'11~ Enrolled in T-DM1 EAP in Denver, first treatment March 25, 2011. 
Mar'11~ Finally started T-DM1 EAP in Denver at Rocky Mountain Cancer Center/Rose on Mar. 25... hallelujah. 
 
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