Calcium - Magnesium Combo

[harrie]

Can anyone tell me the recommended ratio or dosage of magnesium to calcium for adequate absorbtion?

[Chelee]

Bumping this up for Harrie, and also because I have an interest in this very same question.

Chelee

[PinkGirl]

Hi Harrie
I have a liquid supplement of 600 mg. calcium, 300 mg. magnesium,
300 mg. phosphore and 400 UI vitamin D3. This is per tablespoon
and I take two tablespoons per day.

[madubois63]

I have to take magnesium because of all my problems. I won't tell you how much, because the amount is determined by my weekly blood tests. What I can tell you is that magnesium will give you diarrhea if not paired with protein. I order the magnesium w/protein through the Miller Pharmaceutical Group. You can also get magnesium through pumpkin seeds and by soaking in Epsom salt. I shower (wish I had a tub), so what I do is put a stopper on the drain, pour the salts on the floor of the shower and shower as usual.

[Jean]

Now Madame you really have impressed me.
If anyone could turn a mere shower into a soothing
bath.....it would be YOU!

hugs,
Jean

[madubois63]

Thanks Jean. I am a walking wealth of stupid facts. Since this cancer/leukemia thing, I've directed my brain to learning all I can to staying around as long as possible!!! I don't always remember it all, but it is there for me to forget....

[Jean]

My dear you are my hero!
Your open inquiring mind...always thinking outside the box, I say someone should set you loose in a research
lab and all our troubles might be over.

Jean

[ElaineM]

Aloha,
I take prescription powdered calcium and magnesium mixed with warm or hot water for absorption plus extra Vitamin D. The calcium amount is twice as much as the magnesium, so if a person takes 1000 mg of calcium he or she will get 500 mg of magnesium. In addition to helping the body absorb the calcium I read that magnesium may be able to lower high blood pressure.

[sarah]

I'm in France. Here's what I'm on:
I take 2 pills of Magne B6 three times a day (sanofi aventis)
apart from the magnesium, I take 1 or 2 (if 2 with time between them) pills of Oracal D3 (Merck) mainly only 1 at bedtime

this is what each box says:
magne B6: each pill
lactate de magnesium dhydrate ......470mg
chlorhydrate de pyridoxine................ 5mg
la teneur total en magnesium-elemnet est de 48mg (1,97 mmol)

Oracal D3:
carbonate de calcium............1250 mg
calcium element ................... 500mg (really amount I'm getting)
concentrat de cholecalciferl.....4mg
vitamin D3..............................400

I do know that magnesium must be taken separately from the calcium - before the calcium, separated by hours and that D3 is important. I live in a very sunny area and I still take D3 so it's not just about sunlight I assume.

Also because the Femara is eating my bones, I take a bisophonate twice a day away from food, taken only with juice, called Clastoban. I have difficulty remember this but when I'm good, my bones improve.

Also in my case the fear is the breast bone will be the next target.

hope this all helps
stay strong, keep healthy, be happy
sarah

[Barbara H.]

Another way to benefit from Epsom Salts is to fill a plastic tub or container with warm water an Epsom Salts at the end of the day. You can read, watch TV, check this website, or work on a craft while you refresh your feet with with the benefit of receiving some magnesium. I never thought about this secondary benefit when I have felt the need to soak my feet. Thanks for the tip Maryann.
Barbara H.

[R.B.]

Here is some useful information on calcium and magnesium.

Arguably we are removing magnesium sources (whole foods dark greens etc whole grain seeds and nuts) and increasing calcium with high levels of dairy.

"Even though dietary surveys suggest that many Americans do not consume recommended amounts of magnesium, symptoms of magnesium deficiency are rarely seen in the US. However, there is concern about the prevalence of sub-optimal magnesium stores in the body. For many people, dietary intake may not be high enough to promote an optimal magnesium status, which may be protective against disorders such as cardiovascular disease and immune dysfunction [7-8]. "


Magnesium
Office of Dietary Supplements • National Institutes of Health
Table of Contents

Magnesium: What is it?
What foods provide magnesium?
What are the Dietary Reference Intakes for magnesium?
When can magnesium deficiency occur?
Who may need extra magnesium?
What is the best way to get extra magnesium?
What are some current issues and controversies about magnesium?
What is the health risk of too much magnesium?
Selecting a healthful diet
References
Reviewers

http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/magnesium.asp


This is useful on magnesium and calcium and put in very straightforward terms

http://www.drlam.com/a3r_brief_in_do...umandAging.cfm


And these are calcium recommendations for the military

1000mg/day

In the Dr Lam article at the bottom looks at advantages of a lower calcium intake.


There are reasons why calcium is less available to plants in the natural un farmed environment (although it is more of the earth's crust than magnesium). Magnesium may be better retained in the soil and so more widely available. Plants do their best to balance their needs and appear to have more calcium than magnesium. Whole from a quick check wild grains and nuts are high in magnesium. Wild marine products appear about balanced.



Factors Affecting soil Ca Availability

Calcium is found in many of the primary or secondary minerals in the soil. In this state it is relatively insoluble. Calcium is not considered a leachable nutrient. However, over hundreds of years, it will move deeper into the soil. Because of this, and the fact that many soils are derived from limestone bedrock, many soils have higher levels of Ca, and a higher pH in the subsoil.

* Soil pH: Acid soils have less Ca, and high pH soils normally have more. As the soil pH increases above pH 7.2, due to additional soil Ca, the additional "free" Ca is not adsorbed onto the soil. Much of the free Ca forms nearly insoluble compounds with other elements such as phosphorus (P), thus making P less available.
* Soil CEC: Lower CEC soils hold less Ca, and high CEC soils hold more.
* Cation competition: Abnormally high levels, or application rates of other cations, in the presence of low to moderate soil Ca levels tends to reduce the uptake of Ca.
* Alkaline sodic soil (high sodium content): Excess sodium (Na) in the soil competes with Ca, and other cations to reduce their availability to crops.
* Sub-soil or parent material: Soils derived from limestone, marl, or other high Ca minerals will tend to have high Ca levels, while those derived from shale or sandstone will tend to have lower levels.

[harrie]

RB,
Thank you for posting that article.
I am taking about 940mg of mg per day. I wonder if that is too much. It is rather hard not to because it is all included in my vits, calcium, and TriFlex from GNC.