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07-11-2006, 01:59 AM
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sad
Very sad today . My onc said progression on Gemzar and Herceptin( skin mets). I ahve to have scans on Friday. Two more rounds and then move to something else. I am so tired of this - I have had chemo cont since diagnosed in October 2002. I just want to be normal again.
Lindaw
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07-11-2006, 04:52 AM
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Linda-
I am hoping that today is a better day for you (actually, it must already be because when i saw your post time it said 3:59 am, and i hoped you weren't from the US east coast, as that means you aren't sleepig either!!).
I haven't tried gemzar, as i'm still on xeloda... Is there any chance of your trying tykerb instead of or in addition to the herceptin?
Also, there is a post by Cathy who is looking for info on doxil, and I recall that you had tried that...
Good luck, and I hope you experience a random act of kindness today to lift your spirits...
Shell
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07-11-2006, 05:21 AM
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Dear Shell
Thanks for replying.I am in Australia and we are not sure if the compassionate Tykerb is available yet.
I have had a good cry alone and with the family and feel a little better.
I did try doxil but not for lobg as it failed me too.
love
Linda
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07-11-2006, 07:10 AM
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Sorry that you feel sad...I get that way and then
get past it, get right back in the saddle and keep going. You have to only have positive thoughts. I'm the Cathy that Shell wrote to you saying I was looking for info on Doxil. It didn't work for you? I hope it will do something for me although I am not too optomistic. I too tried Gemzar and it didn't work for me either. This is all one big guessing game. We're living proof that this is the reason there is no cure yet...cancer is so damn tricky and sneaky.
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Only Positive Thoughts ++++++++++++++
-- Cathy34
Thanks to my wonderful husband Steve....I couldn't get through this without you!
Wife and mother to 3 wonderful kids - ages 9, 8 and 3
Dx April 2004
Her2+++,ER/PR--,28lymph nodes removed - 2+, no rads
Radical Mastectomy 5/2004
Recrunstruction 10/2004
Chemo ....
A/C/T
5 FU
Gemzar
Avastin
Xeloda
Navelbine
Herceptin
Doxil
Starting Tykerb Trial
Lung Mets
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07-11-2006, 08:01 AM
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Iressa+Herceptin for metastatic skin cancer:case report
Linda.
Here is a case report on a treatment(Iressa+Herceptin) which appears to work well with a patient having a medical history close to yours:
Induction of remission in a patient with metastatic breast cancer refractory to trastuzumab and chemotherapy following treatment with gefitinib ('Iressa', ZD1839).
Schneeweiss A, Kolay S, Aulmann S, Von Minckwitz G, Torode J, Koehler M, Bastert G.
Departments of Gynecology and Obstetrics, University of Heidelberg, Heidelberg, Germany. andreas_schneeweiss@med.uni-heidelberg.de
Despite new therapies and several treatment options, metastatic breast cancer (MBC) remains incurable. One reason for the low median survival rate may be intense cross-talk between growth factor receptors such as the epidermal growth factor receptor (EGFR/HER1) and the HER2 growth factor receptor. This report describes the case history of a patient with MBC whose disease had progressed despite surgery, radiotherapy and four different chemotherapy regimens, including trastuzumab (a monoclonal antibody that specifically blocks HER2) combined with docetaxel. However, treatment with 500 mg/day gefitinib ('Iressa', ZD1839), an EGFR tyrosine kinase inhibitor, and trastuzumab (2 mg/kg/week) caused a rapid and sustained regression of breast cancer metastases in skin and lymph nodes. Thus, for patients with MBC whose tumors co-express EGFR and HER2, gefitinib in combination with trastuzumab may prevent receptor cross-talk, improving the outcome of MBC.
P.S.
I found a case reported by an onc of a single patient who got skin mets after taking Doxil. There was no absolute certainty that doxil was the cause only a suspicion.
Last edited by heblaj01; 07-11-2006 at 08:09 AM..
Reason: P.S. added on doxil
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07-11-2006, 09:57 AM
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Her1/EGFR and cross-talk
I'm sure I am oversimplifying this, but maybe someone can help me out with something that is bothering me.
Given the information we have about cross-talk through the HER family (Her1/EGFR, Her2, and Her3) - is there a reason that oncologists are not routinely testing Her2 positive patients for the other growth factors and treating accordingly (ie with Iressa or Lapitinib or another pan-Her drug)?
Thanks for any help.
Amy
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07-11-2006, 10:46 AM
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What chemo combinations have you tried? I know a woman who had success with herceptin and avastin for skin mets. I also know a woman who was radiated again
Kim
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8/98 dx right breast
5/2003 tram flap right breast
8/2004 dx new primary left breast with inflammatory bc
er/pr-, her2neu+++
8/19 taxotere and herceptin
1/15/2005 Navelbine/Herceptin
4/2005 radiation and Herceptin
5/15/2005 Herceptin alone
2/12/2008 skin biopsy positive
2/14/2008 met to sternum, possibly right breast
2/27/08 Start omitarg, herceptin, taxotere trial
3/17/08 Kicked off trial because I started too close to my last herceptin
3/19 start tykerb xeloda
Right breast confirmed met
5/15/08 skin mets gone, no hypermetabolic activity in breast, sternum healing
8/24/08 scans still look good. sternum still active with scarring. No evidence of progression
10/08 Progression in sternum
12/08 Start TDM1 trial
1/09 Scans show stable
12/09 1 year on TDM1 still stable
10/10 progression in chest and liver
11/10 false positive of liver mets; tykerb and herceptin
4/11 Tykerb/Herceptin/Xgeva
4/11 Rads to Sternum
5/12/12 NED Herceptin/Zometa
3/16/19 still NED Herceptin/Zometa very 6months
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07-11-2006, 02:31 PM
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Hi All
Thanks for suggestions. I am better having had my feel sorry for me day yesterday. I am so torn between rads and more chemos. I am in Australia and don't thing iressa and avastin are approved here, I would like to try rads but know it can occur just outside the field the day after and can do damage whilst others have had success. It is the confusion and uncertainty that bothers me.
Linda
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07-11-2006, 03:26 PM
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Linda,
I'm sorry to hear that your disease has progressed again. I am on gemzar now and will find out tomorrow if I have progressed or remained stable. It's always very upsetting to get this news...you have have ready right to be angry, mad and sad. I don't know much about skins mets (I have lungs/liver) but know of some that have had radiation....I don't know your history and I don't know if there is a cap on this kind of radiation. I will be praying that your onc finds a new effective tx plan.
Hugs,
Judiek
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07-11-2006, 06:50 PM
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Linda,
As of april 2006, Iressa & Avastin were approved for specific cancers in Australia (but not covered for free access) as per article:
http://www.theage.com.au/news/nation...?page=fullpage
Off label prescription is always a possibility if you have a cooperating onc.
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