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Old 03-25-2007, 07:33 PM   #1
Mary Jo
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Side effects??

Hello everyone,

Just wondering if those of you who were on chemo and herceptin and are now finished have any long term side effects? I'm still battling with this left side ache/discomfort. My onc. thinks it's a bowel/intestine issue and isn't worried about it. I started with the "ache" in October of 05 while on chemo. I remember vividly mentioning it to my onc. at that time. I also remember that it started (I think so) after I got really constipated a few days out of a chemo/zofran treatment in Oct. of 05. That's when I remember my side hurting - near the rib area and down that side.

I did have a PET/CT scan the end of December 06 and nothing showed up their. I'd think that if it were cancer and causing discomfort we would have seen something there if it were cancer. I would think by this time a tumor would be large. But there was nothing.

I can't lie and say it isn't driving me nuts ONLY IN THAT I can't help but wonder why and then the cancer scares surface. I am avoiding seeing my regular doc because I'm hoping it will go away because I don't want to go in and DON'T WANT TO HAVE TESTS. I've had enough of those in the past year and half. And as we all know.....the reason I am afraid of more tests is I'm afraid of hearing the bad news. I never use to be fearful of that BUT once hearing it we all know it's possible and I don't want to hear any of that. So avoidance seems best. Maybe not smart BUT best.

I'm thinking that since this has been going on for well over a year (17 months) AND I've had a PET/CT scan and I'm not dead yet and have no terrible symptoms (other than the left side irritating me) and feel great that this must be a side effect I'm suffering from chemo damage to my intestines.

Have any of you had different "problems" to deal with since you've been out of chemo/herceptin for some time. I've been off of chemo for 16 months and herceptin a little over 5 months.

Thanks for your input.

Mary Jo
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Dx. 6/24/05 age 45 Right Breast IDC
ER/PR. Neg., - Her2+++
RB Mast. - 7/28/05 - 4 cm. tumor
Margins clear - 1 microscopic cell 1 sent. node
No Vasucular Invasion
4 DD A/C - 4 DD Taxol & Herceptin
1 full year of Herceptin received every 3 weeks
28 rads
prophylactic Mast. 3/2/06

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Old 03-25-2007, 09:10 PM   #2
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Hi Maryjo

I have noticed so many unexplainable 'tweaks and aches' since my journey started 3 years ago. I have had recurrence, but none of my pains have had anything to do with my micro-recurrences... I understand the feeling of always being afraid of pursuing or mentioning anything! I think we all know that fear. I do mention everything to my onc, and if it is anything out of the ordinary or a symptom he has a reason to worry about, we will talk about it further, but he generally reassures me that we are on top of everything as much as possible, and if there were anything, we would see it in tumor markers and the 3, 6 mo and yearly scans that we do. I have noticed that when I stay ultra hydrated, I feel a bit better and less achy.

I just remind myself that all of the aches and pains are just my 'new normal' these days.
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JULY 2012 - 7 yr anniversary stage IV (of 50...)

Nov'03~ dX stage 2B
Dec'03~
Rt side mastectomy, Her2+, ER/PR+, 10 nodes out, one node positive
Jan'04~
Taxotere/Adria/Cytoxan x 6, NED, no Rads, Tamox. 1 year, Arimadex 3 mo., NED 14 mo.
Sept'05~
micro mets lungs/chest nodes/underarm node, Switched to Aromasin, T/C/H x 7, NED 6 months - Herceptin only
Aug'06~
micro mets chest nodes, & bone spot @ C3 neck, Added Taxol to Herceptin
Feb'07~ Genetic testing, BRCA 1&2 neg

Apr'07~
MRI - two 9mm brain mets & 5 punctates, new left chest met, & small increase of bone spot C3 neck, Stopped Aromasin
May'07~
Started Tykerb/Xeloda, no WBR for now
June'07~
MRI - stable brain mets, no new mets, 9mm spots less enhanced, CA15.3 down 45.5 to 9.3 in 10 wks, Ty/Xel working magic!
Aug'07~
MRI - brain mets shrunk half, NO NEW BRAIN METS!!, TMs stable @ 9.2
Oct'07~
PET/CT & MRI show NED
Apr'08~
scans still show NED in the head, small bone spot on right iliac crest (rear pelvic bone)
Sept'08~
MRI shows activity in brain mets, completed 5 fractions/5 consecutive days of IMRT to zap the pesky buggers
Oct'08~
dropped Xeloda, switched to tri-weekly Herceptin in combo with Tykerb, extend to tri-monthly Zometa infusion
Dec'08~
Brain MRI- 4 spots reduced to punctate size, large spot shrunk by 3mm, CT of torso clear/pelvis spot stable
June'09~
new 3-4mm left cerrebellar spot zapped with IMRT targeted rads
Sept'09~
new 6mm & 1 cm spots in pituitary/optic chiasm area. Rx= 25 days of 3D conformal fractionated targeted IMRT to the tumors.
Oct'09~
25 days of low dose 3D conformal fractionated targeted IMRT to the bone mets spot on rt. iliac crest that have been watching for 2 years. Added daily Aromasin back into treatment regimen.
Apr'10~ Brain MRI clear! But, see new small spot on adrenal gland. Change from Aromasin back to Tamoxifen.
June'10~ Tumor markers (CA15.3) dropped from 37 to 23 after one month on Tamoxifen. Continue to monitor adrenal gland spot. Remain on Tykerb/Herceptin/Tamoxifen.
Nov'10~ Radiate positive mediastinal node that was pressing on recurrent laryngeal nerve, causing paralyzed larynx and a funny voice.
Jan'11~ MRI shows possible activity or perhaps just scar tissue/necrotic increase on 3 previously treated brain spots and a pituitary spot. 5 days of IMRT on 4 spots.
Feb'11~ Enrolled in T-DM1 EAP in Denver, first treatment March 25, 2011.
Mar'11~ Finally started T-DM1 EAP in Denver at Rocky Mountain Cancer Center/Rose on Mar. 25... hallelujah.

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Old 03-26-2007, 06:17 AM   #3
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Cognitive for me. Chemo ended in May and Herceptin in December. I can't focus on reading and writing the way I used to. This isn't great, because I do business writing for a living. I hope for the best. I read about flavanoids in cocoa increasing blood circulation to the brain, so I just spent $9 on a box of cocoa that claims not to be altered by processing. I sure hope Hershey's gets the message and brings out something cheaper.
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IDC, Stage I, Grade 2
Oncotype DX Score 32
Her2++ E+P+, Node Neg.
Lumpectomy 11/04/05 Clear Margins
3 Dose dense AC (Couldn't tolerate 4)
4 Dose dense Taxol & Herc. (Tolerated well)
36 weeks Herceptin (Could not complete one year due to decrease in MUGA score)
2 years of Arimidex, then three years of Femara
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Old 03-26-2007, 07:51 AM   #4
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Hi--I only did two rounds of taxol and carboplatin, along with herceptin, which I'm still on (six months to go) and the impact on my ability to concentrate is very distressing. Words and ideas come slowly these days and I forget from one moment to the next what I was doing, saying, or thinking. I'm taking so many supplements now that adding, even chocolate, seems excessive. Let us know if the chocolate helps. I could use some encouragement and no doubt so can many others. Thanks.
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Old 03-26-2007, 08:49 AM   #5
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As you can see by my 'signature' I finished chemo in Oct. 05 and Herceptin in Oct. 06. I am still taking arimidex...my 5 years of that will be up in Oct. 2010...lingering stuff that I notice...I do have some cognitive issues that are gradually improving, mostly word recall-especially if I am agitated! And then when I can't recall the word, I get more agitated...I have alot of joint aches, mostly knees and thumbs now but they seem to move from joint to joint. Again, much less severe than when I first started. I still get nosebleeds( which started when I began Herceptin), went to my reg doctor last month after a particularly bad one because I was sure I had something dreadful, and she did a full battery of bloodwork and turned up nothing! I hate worrying about every little ache and pain and wish there were some magic scan that I could have once a month that would look at everything and reassure me!!!
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age 54 at diagnosis
5/05 suspicious mammogram-left breast
5/05 biopsy-invasive lobular carcinoma with LCIS,8mm tumor,stage 1 grade 2, ER+ PR+ Her2+++
6/14/05 bilateral mastectomy, node neg. all scans neg.
Oncotype DX-high risk
8/05-10/05 4 rounds A/C
10/05 -10/06 1 yr. herceptin
arimidex-5 years
2/14/08 started daily self administered injections..FORTEO for severe osteoporosis
7/28/09 BRCA 1 negative BRCA2 POSITIVE
8/17/09 prophylactic salpingo-oophorectomy
10/15/10 last FORTEOinjection
RECLAST infusion(ostoeporosis)
6/14/10 5 year cancerversary!
8/2010-18%increase in bone density!
no further treatments
Oncologist says, "Go do the Happy Dance"
I say,"What a long strange trip its been"
'One day at a time'
6-14-2015. 10 YEAR CANCERVERSARY!
7-16 to 9-16. Extensive (and expensive) dental work done to save teeth. Damage from osteoporosis and chemo and long term bisphosphonate use
6-14-16. 11 YEAR CANCERVERSARY!!
7-20-16 Prolia injection for severe osteoporosis
2 days later, massive hive outbreak. This led to an eventual dx of Chronic Ideopathic Urticaria, an auto-immune disease from HELL.
6-14-17 12 YEAR CANCERVERSARY!!
still suffering from CIU. 4 hospitilizations in the past year

as of today, 10-31-17 in remission from CIU and still, CANCER FREE!!!
6-14-18 13 YEAR CANCERVERSARY!! NED!!
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