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Old 04-20-2013, 12:59 PM   #1
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Question IT herceptin for brain mets only??

Hiya,
I can't seem to find any clinical trials for IT herceptin for brain mets only. They are only available in the US if you have leptomeningeal involvement.
Is this correct? Has anyone else found anything out there for only brain mets?
I don't think there's anything here in Canada.
I would be on the first flight to wherever, whenever, to get this.
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Feb 2013 - NED
Mar 2013 - thought I had progression, watching brain.
April 2013 - GOT MARRIED!!!!
May 2013 - looks like no progression, but necrosis and bigger.
Oct-Dec 2013 - Avastin tx
Nov 2013 - MRI shows necrosis shrinkage!!!!
Jan 2014 - Lepto Mening. disease found
Feb 2014 - WBR
March - BLAHHHH
April 2014 - Liver mets found
April 2014 to present - Chemo again, whooohoo. Fun!
July 2014, scans look good.
Stay on Perjetand hercertin.
Nov. 2014 more lepto-mening disease more WBR.
Feb 2015 more lepto-mening disease in spine and neck. More radiation.
Start on TDM1 no more Perjeta stay on herceptin
March 2015 more radiation in my thoracic area, more lepto-meningial disease
April 2015 trying to walk again.
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Old 04-20-2013, 01:34 PM   #2
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Re: IT herceptin for brain mets only??

Hi
Have you checked if there are any trials in England? I know its a long way away but would be happy to offer you accommodation if there's a suitable one.
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Old 04-20-2013, 02:12 PM   #3
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Re: IT herceptin for brain mets only??

Oh Ellie,
How about I just come for a visit! lol
You are so great!
I will look in to it though. UK, all the way!!
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Feb 2013 - NED
Mar 2013 - thought I had progression, watching brain.
April 2013 - GOT MARRIED!!!!
May 2013 - looks like no progression, but necrosis and bigger.
Oct-Dec 2013 - Avastin tx
Nov 2013 - MRI shows necrosis shrinkage!!!!
Jan 2014 - Lepto Mening. disease found
Feb 2014 - WBR
March - BLAHHHH
April 2014 - Liver mets found
April 2014 to present - Chemo again, whooohoo. Fun!
July 2014, scans look good.
Stay on Perjetand hercertin.
Nov. 2014 more lepto-mening disease more WBR.
Feb 2015 more lepto-mening disease in spine and neck. More radiation.
Start on TDM1 no more Perjeta stay on herceptin
March 2015 more radiation in my thoracic area, more lepto-meningial disease
April 2015 trying to walk again.
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Old 04-20-2013, 03:22 PM   #4
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Re: IT herceptin for brain mets only??

Jilly, have you researched PMH (Princess Margaret Hospital) here in Toronto - it's the number one cancer hospital in Canada, often noted as in the top 5 worldwide. Approximately 20% of patients are on clinical trials there.

I had my mastectomy there, and follow-up with my breast surgeon for 3 years afterwards. Also have my yearly lymphedema appointment there.

I would look into calling them on Monday morning. Sometimes a phone call and speaking to a live person can get you further than just milling around on websites.

all the best
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Old 04-20-2013, 06:41 PM   #5
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Re: IT herceptin for brain mets only??

Some of us talk local oncologist into doing it off label. I am using IT Herceptin for spinal mets.

Good luck to you

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Old 04-20-2013, 07:18 PM   #6
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Re: IT herceptin for brain mets only??

Caya, I've been to PM for a couple of things, like new surgeon to do my other breast. That is on hold at the moment, as I have to deal with the uncertainty of my brain. Thanks for the thought on PM and trials. I'm on their website right now.
Darita, Thank you. I will ask my doctor again and may just beg, if it comes down to the fact that I have progression. Still hoping for necrosis after radiation. Keep us posted on the IT herceptin. What's it like?
Jill
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Feb 2013 - NED
Mar 2013 - thought I had progression, watching brain.
April 2013 - GOT MARRIED!!!!
May 2013 - looks like no progression, but necrosis and bigger.
Oct-Dec 2013 - Avastin tx
Nov 2013 - MRI shows necrosis shrinkage!!!!
Jan 2014 - Lepto Mening. disease found
Feb 2014 - WBR
March - BLAHHHH
April 2014 - Liver mets found
April 2014 to present - Chemo again, whooohoo. Fun!
July 2014, scans look good.
Stay on Perjetand hercertin.
Nov. 2014 more lepto-mening disease more WBR.
Feb 2015 more lepto-mening disease in spine and neck. More radiation.
Start on TDM1 no more Perjeta stay on herceptin
March 2015 more radiation in my thoracic area, more lepto-meningial disease
April 2015 trying to walk again.
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Old 04-22-2013, 08:27 AM   #7
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Re: IT herceptin for brain mets only??

This is the reply that I got back from a clinical trials guy:
For LM disease it can be seen sometimes on MRI’s or if a spinal tap is done. It is not clear that giving it into the spinal fluid would allow it to penetrate into the brain to be of value.

I am unaware of anyone.

Sorry.
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Feb 2013 - NED
Mar 2013 - thought I had progression, watching brain.
April 2013 - GOT MARRIED!!!!
May 2013 - looks like no progression, but necrosis and bigger.
Oct-Dec 2013 - Avastin tx
Nov 2013 - MRI shows necrosis shrinkage!!!!
Jan 2014 - Lepto Mening. disease found
Feb 2014 - WBR
March - BLAHHHH
April 2014 - Liver mets found
April 2014 to present - Chemo again, whooohoo. Fun!
July 2014, scans look good.
Stay on Perjetand hercertin.
Nov. 2014 more lepto-mening disease more WBR.
Feb 2015 more lepto-mening disease in spine and neck. More radiation.
Start on TDM1 no more Perjeta stay on herceptin
March 2015 more radiation in my thoracic area, more lepto-meningial disease
April 2015 trying to walk again.
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Old 04-22-2013, 11:27 PM   #8
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Re: IT herceptin for brain mets only??

My wife had deep brain mets and it has worked, but by a local oncologist, off label.
Mario
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Old 04-23-2013, 06:30 AM   #9
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Re: IT herceptin for brain mets only??

Thanks Mario, I PM'd you.
Cheers! Jill
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Feb 2013 - NED
Mar 2013 - thought I had progression, watching brain.
April 2013 - GOT MARRIED!!!!
May 2013 - looks like no progression, but necrosis and bigger.
Oct-Dec 2013 - Avastin tx
Nov 2013 - MRI shows necrosis shrinkage!!!!
Jan 2014 - Lepto Mening. disease found
Feb 2014 - WBR
March - BLAHHHH
April 2014 - Liver mets found
April 2014 to present - Chemo again, whooohoo. Fun!
July 2014, scans look good.
Stay on Perjetand hercertin.
Nov. 2014 more lepto-mening disease more WBR.
Feb 2015 more lepto-mening disease in spine and neck. More radiation.
Start on TDM1 no more Perjeta stay on herceptin
March 2015 more radiation in my thoracic area, more lepto-meningial disease
April 2015 trying to walk again.
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