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Old 01-04-2017, 11:32 AM   #4
Carol Ann
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Re: What Makes HER2 Positive Cancers Unique After Treatment?

Spitfire, I apologize if I didn't explain what I meant very well.

HER2+++ cancers are more likely to return after treatment than the cancers that are not. That is what I meant in the beginning sentence. It isn't your body that lacks anything, the HER2+++ cancer cell over expresses the HER2 protein on the cell, which makes it replicate more quickly. I don't think anyone knows why some tumors are HER2 positive and others are not. The ones that are HER2+++ are in the minority, 1 out of 5 or so.

Any breast cancer can metastasize many years after initial treatment. But given that HER2 positive is considered more likely to come back, yes I would think it makes a difference.

Dr Slamon, who developed Herceptin, has said that Herceptin has greatly decreased the odds of HER2+++ cancer coming back, by about 50%. He spoke at a conference in Scotland not long ago and said that most will recur if it is going to happen within the first 2 or 3 years after treatment. Again, that doesn't mean it still can't happen after that point.

Additionally, cancer cells can switch from negative to positive, and vice versa. This happened to someone I knew ... their original tumor was HER2 neg, so no Herceptin. It came back metastatic in her liver HER2+++. There is someone on this forum, Michka from France (I think) who is metastatic but her tumor has mutated and isn't HER2+++ any more.

I have never heard that we HER2+++ ladies are more prone to any particular illness ... but that is a good question, maybe someone else has some info. And as a general rule, yes once you have been diagnosed with cancer, you are more prone to be diagnosed with other cancers as well. Whether HER2 +++ increases the raised odds or not, I am not sure.

Carol Ann
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July 24, 2013: "Infected" Right Nipple and benign cyst removed, pathology report revealed Paget's, DCIS, and ILC 1.25 cm, ER+/Pro+/HER2 equivocal, Grade 2 under benign cyst, previous diagnostic mammo/ultrasound said I was perfectly healthy in both breasts.

Aug 18, 2013: MRI report says Left breast is perfectly healthy "consistent with previous studies".

Sept 2013: I insist on a bilateral mastectomy anyway. Too nervewracking to let left breast remain with higher risk after 3 cancers in right, nipple in right is already gone anyhow.

Sept 18, 2013: Bilateral mastectomy, 11 right nodes removed, ALL negative BUT -- ER+/PRO+/HER2+ tumor, 1.0 cm, Grade 2 found in a piece of "grossly unremarkable" breast tissue from prophylactic mastectomy of left breast, no nodes removed.

Oct 25, 2013: 13 left side nodes removed, ALL negative, Stage 1 across the board, NO RADS needed, YAAAAY! Port also installed.

Nov 25, 2013 Begin 6 rounds TCH.

March 10, 2014 Just finished 6th and LAST Chemo today, YAAAAAY!

March 24, 2014 Echocardiogram to make sure I'm still good for Herceptin every 3 weeks.

March 31, 2014 Echo results NORMAL, first Herceptin all by itself. Now if only my eyes would stop streaming from the Taxotere ... :)

April 21, 2014 Started Arimidex and therapy for "mild" lymphedema in left hand and arm

May 2014 Therapy completed, I have sleeves and gloves for both arms, a Flexi touch lymph pump to hook up to for an hour every day, and I've become an arm bandaging expert. :)

June 2014 Begin Fosamax to prevent osteoporosis; bone scan revealed osteopenia

Nov 17, 2014 FINAL Herceptin!

Dec 4, 2014 My right thigh muscle has been extra achy for days ... I discover a blister rash cluster on the side of my right thigh while taking a shower. Port appointment cancelled until Dec 17, my doc is working me in tomorrow afternoon to see me and the rash. My muscle at least feels less achy.

Dec 5, 2014 Yep, I have shingles. Boo! I start acyclovir and also have a prescription for a painkiller just in case for over the weekend.

Dec 17, 2014 Port is OUT!

January 2016 Shingles again and this time it started where my left breast (where the hidden HER2+++ tumor was!) used to be. My onc nurse got me a same day appointment to see my doc when I called and told her I had a rash on the site. The antiviral meds are working once again, though, so that is good news. :)

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