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Old 02-25-2020, 10:22 AM   #1
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Thumbs up ENHERTU aka DS8401A

Good morning,
In October 2019, I applied to join a phase 1 clinical trial at UCLA of DS8401a w nivolumab for her2+ MBC (Enhertu/Opdivo). Clinical trials are arduous to join. There are so many hoops, so many scans, so much waiting and so many grey zones. Maybe that's another post. Anyhoooo, many scans later, along with 3 more brain mets that needed zapping before they'd accept me, I began treatment on 12/26/19.

The only reason I applied for this trial was for the DS8201A - I did not care about the Nivolumab. Literally the same day I was officially enrolled in the trial, the FDA announced approval of DS8401A, AKA ENHERTU. I felt like someone had run over me in their car. I right away asked for this, but it was not yet available--no one had it on their shelves, and any trial drug was assigned to a trial patient. So I had no choice but to go forward with the clinical trial. I had been washed out since OCTOBER and needed to get treatment or it would be too late.

Side effects have been very hard on me. I've never been easy with chemo, and the nausea was brutal and lasting 14+ days. Still, I went ahead on cycles 2 & 3 and then had the required scans at 6 weeks. The good news is I've had improvement, and my brain MRI was also very good. I could tell after the second cycle that a couple palpable nodes were melted gone. Also my markers had dropped. This is a very effective drug.

After a conversation with my son, who said “I love you mom and will support whatever you decide, but wtf is up with this trial drug - are you just supposed to be sick all the fucking time? QOL was your main goal mom. You should be out dancing" I realized I've got to do something that allows me SOME qol. I don't expect to have energy to dance, but I've got to be able to have a reasonable QOL. That's how I made the decision to go single agent, more flexibility, and more control, and back with my home team of nearly 13 years that I am MBC.

In my effort to take back my life, and get SOME QOL on this regime, I've decided to leave the trial, and return to my local oncologist and continue on single agent Enhertu. I can see from the Enhertu Facebook group that the single agent brings plenty of nausea, so I am not expecting dramatic results, but what I am expecting is small increments of being easier.

Without going in to a blow by blow, I've had to kick and scream for support meds, with everything having to be approved by the sponsor--meantime, they are all living their normal lives, I am at home under the covers, in bed, crying sick. Like having the stomach flu for two plus weeks every cycle.

Plans for this ENHERTU only cycle: I'm going to try VARUBI, a pill taken before treatment and supposed to last 21 days for anti-nausea. I will still have dex and Aloxi as premeds. AND I will stay on oral dexamethasone for several days post treatment to try to better manage nausea, and increase QOL.

The infusion itself is half hour for premeds, wait half hour and then 90 minutes for Enhertu. On the clinical trial, I had to stay the entire day; from 8 until 6 for final labs and wait on results. For my safety but what a long, exhausting day ending with an hour drive in rush hour. UGH.

My biggest cancer symptom is my right quad to the knee being very numb, feeling like it's asleep, bottom of my right foot, too. And right pelvis also numb although it's not constantly annoying to me like my leg/foot. The shooting pains, fire-ants feeling has resolved, and everyone is pretty sure the is a result of L1 which is filled with cancer and also has some tumor into my CNS at that level.

I still do not understand how LMD comes into play--the trial doctor had to really fight for my inclusion, it came down to an amplified MRI to show the LMD was contained to a certain interior level in my cord, and somehow that was deemed acceptable. So far, no doctor has been able to explain the LMD (leptomeningeal disease) in a way that I can grasp. Last June I was told 6 mos. Now I've realized that no doctor really knows what they are talking about, I'm not presenting with typical LMD, don't know what's going on anymore and it's unnerving. And quite frankly very weird. The trial doc thinks I'm nuts for leaving a combo that is working, but she gets to go home every night and be a mom and wife and I stay in every night FEELING NAUSEOUS, WEAK and SICK.

So I am taking back my life, and surely don't want to waste what is left of it so wiped by chemo all the time. I'm back in day by day and most days moment by moment. There are others on this ENHERTU regime who've been on for over a year, one woman for nearly 2 years. And now a handful of us just getting started.

I am reminded of my mom's words while growing up, "Flori, don't write the ending". Hope everyone reading this is doing well, or as I like to say, "good enough". Sending much love,
Flori
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1996 cancer WTF?! 1.3 cm lumpectomy Er/Pr neg. Her2+ (20nodes NEGATIVE) did CMF + rads. NED.
2002 recurrence. Bilateral mastectomy w/TFL autologous recon. Then ACx2. Skin lymphatic rash. Taxotere w/Herceptin x4. Herceptin/Xeloda. Finally stops spreading.
2003 - Back to surgery, remove skin mets, and will have surgery one week later when pathology can confirm margins.
‘03 latisimus dorsi flap to remove skin mets. CLEAN MARGINS. Continue single agent Herceptin thru 4/04. NED.
‘04 '05 & 06 tiny recurrences - scar line. surgery to cut out. NED each time.
1/2006 Rads again, to scar line. NED.

3/07 Heartbreaking news - mets! lungs.sternum. Try Tykerb/Xeloda. Tykerb/Carbo/Gemzar. Switch Oncs.
12/07 Herceptin.Tykerb. Markers go stable.
2/8/08 gamma knife 13mm stupid brain met.
3/08 Herceptin/tykerb/avastin/zometa.
3/09 brain NED. Lungs STABLE.
4/09 attack sternum (10 daysPHOTONS.5 days ELECTRONS)
9/09 MARKERS normal!
3/10 PET/CT=manubrium intensely metabolically active but stable. NEDhead.
Wash out 5/10 for tdm1 but 6/10 CT STABLE, PET improving. Markers normal. Brain NED. Resume just Herceptin plus ZOMETA
Dec 2010 Brain NED, lungs/sternum stable. markers normal.
MAR 2011 stop Herceptin/allergy! Go back on Tykerb and switch to Xgeva.
May-Aug 2011 Tykerb Herceptin Xgeva.
Sept 2011 Tykerb, Herceptin, Zometa, Avastin.
April 2012 sketchy drug trial in NYC. 6 weeks later I’m NED!
OCT 2012 PET/CT shows a bunch of freakin’ progression. Back to LA and Herceptin.avastin.zometa.
12/20/12 add in PERJETA!
March 2013 – 5 YEARS POST continue HAPZ
APRIL 2013 - 6 yrs stage 4. "FAILED" PETscan on 4/2/13
May 2013: rePetted - improvement in lungs, left adrenal stable, right 6th rib inactive, (must be PERJETA avastin) sternum and L1 fruckin'worsen. Drop zometa. ADD Xgeva. Doc says get rads consultant for L1 and possible biopsy of L1. I say, no thanks, doc. Lets see what xgeva brings to the table first. It's summer.
June-August 2013HAPX Herceptin Avastin Perjeta xgeva.
Sept - now - on chemo hold for calming tummy we hope. Markers stable for 2 months.
Nov 2013 - Herceptin-Perjeta-Avastin-Xgeva (collageneous colitis, which explains tummy probs, added Entocort)
December '13 BRAIN MRI ned in da head.
Jan 2014: CONTINUING on HAPX…
FEB 2014 PetCT clinical “impression”: 1. newbie nodule - SUV 1.5 right apical nodule, mildly hypermetabolic “suggestive” of worsening neoplastic lesion. 2. moderate worsening of the sternum – SUV 5.6 from 3.8
3. increasing sclerosis & decreasing activity of L1 met “suggests” mild healing. (SUV 9.4 v 12.1 in May ‘13)
4. scattered lung nodules, up to 5mm in size = stable, no increased activity
5. other small scattered sclerotic lesions, one in right iliac and one in thoracic vertebral body similar in appearance to L1 without PET activity and not clearly pathologic
APRIL 2014 - 6 YRS POST GAMMA ZAP, 7 YRS MBC & 18 YEARS FROM ORIGINAL DX!
October 2014: hold avastin, continue HPX
Feb 2015 Cancer you lost. NEDHEAD 7 years post gamma zap miracle, 8 years ST4, +19 yrs original diagnosis.
Continue HPX. Adding back Avastin
Nov 2015 pet/ct is mixed result. L1 SUV is worse. Continue Herceptin/avastin/xgeva. Might revisit Perjeta for L1. Meantime going for rads consult for L1
December 2015 - brain stable. Continue Herceptin, Perjeta, Avastin and xgeva.
Jan 2016: 5 days, 20 grays, Rads to L1 and continue on HAPX. I’m trying to "save" TDM1 for next line. Hope the rads work to quiet L1. Sciatic pain extraordinaire :((
Markers drop post rads.
2/24/16 HAP plus X - markers are down
SCIATIC PAIN DEAL BREAKER.
3/23/16 Laminectomy w/coflex implant L4/5. NO MORE SCIATIC PAIN!!! Healing.
APRIL 2016 - 9 YRS MBC
July 2016 - continue HAP plus Xgeva.
DEC 2016 - PETCT: mets to sternum, lungs, L1 still about the same in size and PET activity. Markers not bad. Not making changes if I don't need to. Herceptin/Perjeta/Avastin/Xgeva
APRIL 2017 10 YEARS MBC
December 2017 - Progression - gonna switch it up
FEB 2018 - Kadcyla 3 cycles ---->progression :(
MAY30th - bronchoscopy, w/foundation1 - her2 enriched
Aug 27, 2018 - start clinical trial ZW25
JAN 2019 - ZW25 seems to be keeping me stable
APRIL 2019 - ONE DOZEN YEARS LIVING METASTATIC
MAY 2019 - progression back on herceptin add xeloda
JUNE 2019 - "6 mos average survival" LMD & CNS new single brain met - one zap during 5 days true beam SBRT to cord met
10/30/19 - stable brain and cord. progression lungs and bones. washing out. applying for ds8201a w nivolumab. hope they take me.
12/27/19 - begin ds8401a w nivolumab. after 2nd cycle nodes melt away. after 3rd cycle chest scan shows Improvement, brain MRI shows improvement, resolved areas & nothing new. switch to plain ENHERTU. after 4th cycle, PETscan shows mostly resolved or improved results. Markers near normal. I'm stunned but grateful.
10/26/20 - June 2021 Tucatinib/xeloda/herceptin - stable ish.
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