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Old 01-03-2015, 06:52 AM   #17
JessicaV
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Re: Are blood tests really that important in follow up care?

I have found in situations like this it can help to say there is a communication breakdown happening and that I am not comfortable talking to this person, and I really need an oncologist I can communicate with, so I urgently need someone else. You do the broken record thing, don't escalate or get louder or angry, just repeat yourself until they get it.

That way you are saying"This is not working, and I need someone else" without rubbishing the other person, and face is saved. It is also a no-blame position that is hard for anyone to argue with. Even if you have previously bared your soul with more info, you can drop back to this position now if you wish to.

You are the consumer, it is your choice, and your right to get the right person for you without feeling bad about it. It is a gut-feeling thing, often an emotional matter, and you need to be staunch to yourself and not feel you have to justify it.

Here in Australia we have breast care nurses who know the oncologists and surgeons by their work and by what they hear from other patients. And there are senior ward nurses in oncology and in breast surgery. If you rang and made an appointment to see a breast care nurse, and explained about the communication breakdown, and asked advice on who might be easier for you to talk with, who is gentle, respectful very experienced and really good, get several names and interview them.

Alternatively, use the forums. Create a new ID and go onto a number of cancer boards and ask about hospitals, oncologists and surgeons in your area. Then you can keep your safe place here, but still get the info from those who know.

About tests to screen for recurrences. My oncologist, a woman, says that research shows that doing tests does not improve survival rates. She also says that people get so anxious and wound up about having tests and scans it does more harm than good.

I found out that the C15-3 has both false negs (when it appears to be fine but there are metastases) and false positives (indicating a problem when there are no metastases, caused by some other factor). But it often rises significantly if metasteses are present, and shows them at least 6 months before a scan would show them. I told her I would like to have this particular cancer marker monitored so I felt we were keeping a finger on the pulse of what is happening out of sight. She asked what would I do if I had a reading of about 33 given that they see up to 30 as normal. I said I'd discuss it with her. She asked me to promise to tell her if I find myself getting nervous about having the blood test done. She has agreed to monitor this for me because I wanted it and convinced her that I will not be a worrywort about it.

So that is what we are up against: people panic about the tests as they approach them, they worry about test results that don't show any problems, and they end up in a worse state because of the tests.

Which I think is a bit of a cop-out by oncologists.
I think the answer is for oncologists to take responsibility for educating their patients to manage their underlying fears about having cancer that gets triggered at such times, and also to teach them how to make these tests useful not damaging. Or maybe this is a project for a psychologist, and maybe I should be working on it myself.

I do hope you can find the way to be assertive and get what you want without feeling like you are alienating everyone or finding it too hard and too upsetting. It really is a matter of the right person for you, and not every combination works. Be staunch, be persistent, and keep a smile on your face.
best of luck
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1997-2004 many cysts, many MG & U/S: polycystic breasts.
Sept 2013 found lump,Cyst?? forgot lump.
Dec 2013 GP check, Referred for U/S, MG,FNA.
7 Jan 2014 Radiology: Radiologist turned screen away from me. When asked she said "Not a cyst, very suspicious.See your GP asa results avail."
Cancelled my psych clients for the week.
8 Jan 14 GP: 2.2cm IDC in 6cm DCIS field. FNA=malignant cells. Referred to Surgeon.
Cancelled my psych clients for the month.
13 Jan
14 Surgeon said L mastectomy not lumpectomy, offered neoadjunctive trial, agreed adjunctive chemo after surgery a good choice for me. Booked Body scan and bone scan for staging (both fine) Surgery for16 Jan,
16 Jan 14 Surgeon also agreed in preop meeting to also remove 6cm fatty cyst in job lot. Good job done.
19 Jan 14 discharged home with 1 drain.
22 Jan 14 drain partly pulled out overnight, serious seroma (600 ml reducing removed every 2 days for a month) Serious staph infection because nurse said wait 3 days for yr surgeon appointment.
26Jan 14 pathology: 2.2cm Grade 3(3,3,2)ER-, PgR-, HER2+2 so to be confirmed by Sish test. Node negative. No vascular or lymphatic involvement. No metastases in scans.
30 Jan 14 HER2+ high amplification, 13 gene copies per cell.
21st Feb 14 Began 3wkly TCH adjuvant treatment at The Mount Hospital Perth, with 3monthly MUGA heart tests +Oncologist or Surgeon full physical check-up.
Cancelled my psych clients for 6 months.
Feb 14 First MUGA test: 71%,
First C15.3 test: 20
7th March 14 began Neulasta self-applied injections 24hrs after each TCH treatment. Bonepain helped by spa, heatpacks and
Claritin, reflux/indigestion helped by Somac.
July 14 completed docetaxol and carboplatin, ongoing herceptin to 12 months. Severe cognitive deficit/fatigue after 1pm daily.
Sept 14 Second MUGA test: 69%
Cancelled my psych clients for 2014
Dec 14 Third MUGA test: 70%
Second C15.3 test : 20
Cognitive fatigue delays return to work.

March 2015 Tachycardia pulse 168, night in hospital. Cardiologist says no heart disease, ALIVE ECG attachment for my mobile phone now regular monitoring.
July 2015 Worktrial, up to 8hrs per wk. Fatigue ongoing
Aug 2015 Heart good, no evidence of cancer, just Fatigue.
May 2019 Melanoma 1.5cm Stage 1 by right collarbone(was present as large freckle in 2014 and cut through by breast surgeon to remove fatty cyst at same time as mastectomy.) Melanoma removed leaving scar from shoulder to breastbone. In hospital twice for IV antibiotics. Told catagorically this could not be BC mets.
Dec 2019 Still NED, still fatigue in late afternoon, but have my brain back in the early mornings. So most days I watch the sunrise and hear the birds morning chorus in my bush backyard and am glad to be alive and to be me still.

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