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Old 07-15-2006, 04:37 AM   #4
Lani
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I am lousy at links, but here is an abstract of one article

1: J Am Coll Cardiol. 2004 Dec 7;44(11):2231-8. Links

Inhibition of ErbB2 causes mitochondrial dysfunction in cardiomyocytes: implications for herceptin-induced cardiomyopathy.

Grazette LP, Boecker W, Matsui T, Semigran M, Force TL, Hajjar RJ, Rosenzweig A.

Program in Cardiovascular Gene Therapy, Cardiovascular Research Center, Boston, Massachusetts, USA.

OBJECTIVES: We investigated the effects of erbB2 inhibition by anti-erbB2 antibody on cardiomyocyte survival and mitochondrial function. BACKGROUND: ErbB2 is an important signal integrator for the epidermal growth factor family of receptor tyrosine kinases. Herceptin, an inhibitory antibody to the erbB2 receptor, is a potent chemotherapeutic but causes cardiac toxicity. METHODS: Primary cultures of neonatal rat ventricular myocytes were exposed to anti-erbB2 antibody (Ab) (7.5 mug/ml) for up to 24 h. Cell viability, mitochondrial function, and apoptosis were measured using multiple complementary techniques. RESULTS: ErbB2 inhibition was associated with a dramatic increase in expression of the pro-apoptotic Bcl-2 family protein Bcl-xS and decreased levels of anti-apoptotic Bcl-xL. There was a time-dependent increase in mitochondrial translocation and oligomerization of bcl-associated protein (BAX), as indicated by 1,6-bismaleimidohexane crosslinking. The BAX oligomerization was associated with cytochrome c release and caspase activation. These alterations induced mitochondrial dysfunction, a loss of mitochondrial membrane potential (psi) (76.9 +/- 2.4 vs. 51.7 +/- 0.1; p < 0.05; n = 4), a 35% decline in adenosine triphosphate levels (p < 0.05), and a loss of redox capacity (0.72 +/- 0.04 vs. 0.64 +/- 0.02; p< 0.01). Restoration of Bcl-xL levels through transactivating regulatory protein-mediated protein transduction prevented the decline in psi mitochondrial reductase activity and cytosolic adenosine triphosphate. CONCLUSIONS: Anti-erbB2 activates the mitochondrial apoptosis pathway through a previously undescribed modulation of Bcl-xL and -xS, causing impairment of mitochondrial function and integrity and disruption of cellular energetics.

PMID: 15582322 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

As you see it affects the mitochondria in several ways (and these may be only some of even more that aren't described yet!) and I am not sure they understand coQ' s effects well enough to know if it reverses or potentiates
these effects. Plus this is in mice as most people don't allow cardiac biopsies just to study the effects of drugs on their bodies. Many drugs and natural compounds have different effects when given in different doses (sometimes opposite effects at high and low doses). So you are getting into a lot of unknowns. I encourage others who have researched more on coQ to send in their links--but I can assure you, there is no simple answer when so much is unknown.

PS I have yet to find the article Dr. Slamon used in his talks but will try to send it on when I do
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