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StephN · 01-12-2011, 11:46 AM

I would not think twice about that web site.

Once you realize that cancer cells are the MOST DIFFICULT of all the kinds of cells to KILL, the reasoning of using a substance that is poisonous to the extent that it will kill those cells and not all of the rest of our cells, becomes more reasonable.

The Hippocratic oath may seem hypocritic, but is cutting off a gangrenous leg to save the patient any more horrible treatment then trying to kill cells that are trying to kill us by using the resource of our bodies as food for tumors?

Personally I would rather kill my tumors than be a ready banquet table for the buggers.

Medical science is working on more targeted therapies that will affect only the cancer cells themselves, which lessens the "scorched earth" effect, even in combination with the more toxic drugs.

I vote for targeted drugs over apple cider vinegar. Perhaps use of the apple cider vinegar by a person who has not yet been diagnosed with any cancer would have a good overall health affect, but IMHO will not stop cancers that are already running around the track.

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StephN Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Misty woods of WA State Posts: 4,128	Re: To Chemo Or Not? I would not think twice about that web site. Once you realize that cancer cells are the MOST DIFFICULT of all the kinds of cells to KILL, the reasoning of using a substance that is poisonous to the extent that it will kill those cells and not all of the rest of our cells, becomes more reasonable. The Hippocratic oath may seem hypocritic, but is cutting off a gangrenous leg to save the patient any more horrible treatment then trying to kill cells that are trying to kill us by using the resource of our bodies as food for tumors? Personally I would rather kill my tumors than be a ready banquet table for the buggers. Medical science is working on more targeted therapies that will affect only the cancer cells themselves, which lessens the "scorched earth" effect, even in combination with the more toxic drugs. I vote for targeted drugs over apple cider vinegar. Perhaps use of the apple cider vinegar by a person who has not yet been diagnosed with any cancer would have a good overall health affect, but IMHO will not stop cancers that are already running around the track. __________________ "When I hear music, I fear no danger. I am invulnerable. I see no foe. I am related to the earliest times, and to the latest." H.D. Thoreau Live in the moment. MY STORY SO FAR ~~~~ Found suspicious lump 9/2000 Lumpectomy, then node dissection and port placement Stage IIB, 8 pos nodes of 18, Grade 3, ER & PR - Adriamycin 12 weekly, taxotere 4 rounds 36 rads - very little burning 3 mos after rads liver full of tumors, Stage IV Jan 2002, one spot on sternum Weekly Taxol, Navelbine, Herceptin for 27 rounds to NED! 2003 & 2004 no active disease - 3 weekly Herceptin + Zometa Jan 2005 two mets to brain - Gamma Knife on Jan 18 All clear until treated cerebellum spot showing activity on Jan 2006 brain MRI & brain PET Brain surgery on Feb 9, 2006 - no cancer, 100% radiation necrosis - tumor was still dying Continue as NED while on Herceptin & quarterly Zometa Fall-2006 - off Zometa - watching one small brain spot (scar?) 2007 - spot/scar in brain stable - finished anticoagulation therapy for clot along my port-a-catheter - 3 angioplasties to unblock vena cava 2008 - Brain and body still NED! Port removed and scans in Dec. Dec 2008 - stop Herceptin - Vaccine Trial at U of W begun in Oct. of 2011 STILL NED everywhere in Feb 2014 - on wing & prayer 7/14 - Started twice yearly Zometa for my bones Jan. 2015 checkup still shows NED 2015 Neuropathy in feet - otherwise all OK - still NED. Same news for 2016 and all of 2017. Nov of 2017 - had small skin cancer removed from my face. Will have Zometa end of Jan. 2018.