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Rich66 · 03-18-2010, 04:18 PM

Seems to be more out there on combining Letrozole(Femara) with her2 therapy.

But if going aromasin route...

Tumori. 2009 Nov-Dec;95(6):804-7.
Inhibition of HER2/estrogen receptor cross-talk, probable relation to prolonged remission of stage IV breast cancer: a case report.

Tisman G.
Whittier Cancer Research Building, 13025 Bailey Street, Suite A, Whittier, CA 90601, USA. glennmd@gmail.com
Metastatic breast cancer to the liver is considered incurable. Though many patients with liver metastases may enjoy response to chemo-, immuno- and hormonal therapy, those so inflicted rarely remain disease-free from the time of diagnosis for longer than 6-11 months. New laboratory and clinical research identified that cross-talk between activation of the epidermal growth factor family of tyrosine kinase transduction pathways (EGF/HER2) and estrogen receptor (ER) activation plays a role in resistance to hormonal therapy. A 59-year-old woman with a 4.5-cm invasive ductal, ER-positive/PR-negative, grade III adenocarcinoma of the breast was treated with mastectomy. Staging revealed biopsy-proven liver metastases. Surgery was immediately followed with vinorelbine, trastuzumab, tamoxifen and exemestane. The patient underwent a bone scan and PET/CT documented complete remission. She has remained in complete remission for 7 years. It is proposed that a possible mechanism for prolonged remission of stage IV breast cancer in this patient may be related to suppression of EGF/HER2 by trastuzumab, thus inhibiting cross-talk-associated tamoxifen/estrogen withdrawal resistance.

PMID: 20210247 [PubMed - in process]
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Tamoxifen and exemestane were started after discontinuation of vinorelbine after only 6 weeks of therapy due to a vinorelbine-induced rash. Complete clinical response was confirmed after 2 months from the start of therapy. The patient has remained free of disease for 7 years and receives trastuzumab 6 mg/kg every 6 weeks, tamoxifen 20 mg daily, and exemestane 25 mg daily.
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The ATAC study reported less than optimal activity for the combination of tamoxifen and anastrozole when compared to the AI alone20. It was decided, however, to continue this patient on the combination of tamoxifen plus AI because of the early success of therapy.
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It is conjectured that this patient’s prolonged complete remission of 7+ years may represent the result of inhibition of EGFR/HER2-ER cross-talk, thus prolonging benefit from hormonal therapy. However, it is also possible – though less likely – that the independent effects of trastuzumab, tamoxifen and exemestane inhibition of tumor growth is responsible as well.

Maybe the interaction is different between Tam+Anastrazole vs TAM+Exemestane:

Clin Cancer Res. 2005 Dec 15;11(24 Pt 1):8722-7.
Effect of exemestane on tamoxifen pharmacokinetics in postmenopausal women treated for breast cancer.

Hutson PR, Love RR, Havighurst TC, Rogers E, Cleary JF.
School of Pharmacy, University of Wisconsin, Madison, Wisconsin 53705-2222, USA. prhutson@pharmacy.wisc.edu
PURPOSE: Rodent models of human breast cancer suggest that the combination of the steroidal aromatase inhibitor exemestane with tamoxifen may have additive activity. Clinical trials combining tamoxifen with letrozole or anastrazole have shown minor pharmacokinetic drug interactions. We did an open-label crossover clinical trial of the effect of exemestane on tamoxifen pharmacokinetics. DESIGN: Thirty-two postmenopausal women who were clinically disease-free following primary treatments for breast cancer receiving tamoxifen for at least 3 months were studied. Blood was collected for pharmacokinetic analysis after at least 4 months of receiving 20 mg tamoxifen daily. Subjects then began 8 weeks of oral exemestane (25 mg daily), followed by another set of blood samples. RESULTS: There were no serious toxicities noted when the two drugs were combined. There was no significant effect of exemestane on the area under the plasma concentration versus time curve (AUC) of tamoxifen at steady state before [3.04 mg h/L; 90% confidence interval (90% CI), 2.71-3.44] and during exemestane treatment (3.05 mg h/L; 90% CI, 2.72-3.41). There were no significant changes in the formation of primary tamoxifen metabolites. Oral clearance of exemestane averaged 602 L/h based on an average plasma exemestane AUC of 41.5 microg h/L (90% CI, 36.7-62.6). Plasma concentrations of estradiol, estrone, and estrone sulfate decreased when exemestane was begun; estradiol concentrations consistently decreased below the limit of quantitation. CONCLUSIONS: There is no pharmacokinetic interaction between tamoxifen and exemestane. No modification in the standard regimen of either drug seems to be indicated if they are used in combination. The combination of the two drugs was well tolerated during the 8-week evaluation period.

PMID: 16361559 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

03-18-2010, 04:18 PM	#3
Rich66 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: South East Wisconsin Posts: 3,431	Re: herceptin & tykerb not my miracle combo Seems to be more out there on combining Letrozole(Femara) with her2 therapy. But if going aromasin route... Tumori. 2009 Nov-Dec;95(6):804-7. Inhibition of HER2/estrogen receptor cross-talk, probable relation to prolonged remission of stage IV breast cancer: a case report. Tisman G. Whittier Cancer Research Building, 13025 Bailey Street, Suite A, Whittier, CA 90601, USA. glennmd@gmail.com Metastatic breast cancer to the liver is considered incurable. Though many patients with liver metastases may enjoy response to chemo-, immuno- and hormonal therapy, those so inflicted rarely remain disease-free from the time of diagnosis for longer than 6-11 months. New laboratory and clinical research identified that cross-talk between activation of the epidermal growth factor family of tyrosine kinase transduction pathways (EGF/HER2) and estrogen receptor (ER) activation plays a role in resistance to hormonal therapy. A 59-year-old woman with a 4.5-cm invasive ductal, ER-positive/PR-negative, grade III adenocarcinoma of the breast was treated with mastectomy. Staging revealed biopsy-proven liver metastases. Surgery was immediately followed with vinorelbine, trastuzumab, tamoxifen and exemestane. The patient underwent a bone scan and PET/CT documented complete remission. She has remained in complete remission for 7 years. It is proposed that a possible mechanism for prolonged remission of stage IV breast cancer in this patient may be related to suppression of EGF/HER2 by trastuzumab, thus inhibiting cross-talk-associated tamoxifen/estrogen withdrawal resistance. PMID: 20210247 [PubMed - in process] Quote: Tamoxifen and exemestane were started after discontinuation of vinorelbine after only 6 weeks of therapy due to a vinorelbine-induced rash. Complete clinical response was confirmed after 2 months from the start of therapy. The patient has remained free of disease for 7 years and receives trastuzumab 6 mg/kg every 6 weeks, tamoxifen 20 mg daily, and exemestane 25 mg daily. Quote: The ATAC study reported less than optimal activity for the combination of tamoxifen and anastrozole when compared to the AI alone20. It was decided, however, to continue this patient on the combination of tamoxifen plus AI because of the early success of therapy. Quote: It is conjectured that this patient’s prolonged complete remission of 7+ years may represent the result of inhibition of EGFR/HER2-ER cross-talk, thus prolonging benefit from hormonal therapy. However, it is also possible – though less likely – that the independent effects of trastuzumab, tamoxifen and exemestane inhibition of tumor growth is responsible as well. Maybe the interaction is different between Tam+Anastrazole vs TAM+Exemestane: Clin Cancer Res. 2005 Dec 15;11(24 Pt 1):8722-7. Effect of exemestane on tamoxifen pharmacokinetics in postmenopausal women treated for breast cancer. Hutson PR, Love RR, Havighurst TC, Rogers E, Cleary JF. School of Pharmacy, University of Wisconsin, Madison, Wisconsin 53705-2222, USA. prhutson@pharmacy.wisc.edu PURPOSE: Rodent models of human breast cancer suggest that the combination of the steroidal aromatase inhibitor exemestane with tamoxifen may have additive activity. Clinical trials combining tamoxifen with letrozole or anastrazole have shown minor pharmacokinetic drug interactions. We did an open-label crossover clinical trial of the effect of exemestane on tamoxifen pharmacokinetics. DESIGN: Thirty-two postmenopausal women who were clinically disease-free following primary treatments for breast cancer receiving tamoxifen for at least 3 months were studied. Blood was collected for pharmacokinetic analysis after at least 4 months of receiving 20 mg tamoxifen daily. Subjects then began 8 weeks of oral exemestane (25 mg daily), followed by another set of blood samples. RESULTS: There were no serious toxicities noted when the two drugs were combined. There was no significant effect of exemestane on the area under the plasma concentration versus time curve (AUC) of tamoxifen at steady state before [3.04 mg h/L; 90% confidence interval (90% CI), 2.71-3.44] and during exemestane treatment (3.05 mg h/L; 90% CI, 2.72-3.41). There were no significant changes in the formation of primary tamoxifen metabolites. Oral clearance of exemestane averaged 602 L/h based on an average plasma exemestane AUC of 41.5 microg h/L (90% CI, 36.7-62.6). Plasma concentrations of estradiol, estrone, and estrone sulfate decreased when exemestane was begun; estradiol concentrations consistently decreased below the limit of quantitation. CONCLUSIONS: There is no pharmacokinetic interaction between tamoxifen and exemestane. No modification in the standard regimen of either drug seems to be indicated if they are used in combination. The combination of the two drugs was well tolerated during the 8-week evaluation period. PMID: 16361559 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] __________________ Mom's treatment history (link)