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R.B. · 07-13-2009, 03:03 PM

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Thanks so much for all this information--it is fabulous but at the same time a bit overwhelming and a bit confusing to me....

Thanks for the kind thought.

Most of the information you need is contained in the first post. The problem is if I say just;

1. Significantly cut down on your plant-based Omega six intake
2. Balance your Omega three and six plant based intake
3. Ensure you get an adequate supply of long chain Omega three DHA and EPA
4. Make sure you have enough minerals iodine and vitamin D

because this will reduce your risk of breast cancer, nobody is going to take any notice.

I post the trials to make the point that there is a significant amount of evidence that Omega six increases and Omega three reduces the risk of breast cancer.

Nordic naturals is a very good brand but you really need fish oil and not a 3 6 9 oil. Nordic sell fish oils by the bottle too. http://www.nordicnaturals.com/en/Pro...8/?ProdID=1425

The body makes Omega 9s. Omega sixes are everywhere in the food chain. Most vegetable oils with the exception of olive and macadamia are very high in Omega 6, and the problem for most of us is avoiding Omega six rather than taking more of it.

All good quality refined fish oils are going to be mercury free. For those on a budget fish oil in the bottle is a cheaper option. Modern quality refined oils DO NOT "REPEAT".

Fish has to be the first choice because it contains minerals and other valuable nutrients. Fish and shellfish is the best source of minerals. Most short lived fish from the marine environment do not contain very much mercury. Seaweed is also a good source of minerals, and contains significant amounts of iodine which can be an issue for those with thyroid problems. The Japanese eat a lot of seaweed and are generally quite healthy.

This is a list from the USFDA. Avoid tuna and stick to the fish on the low mercury part of the list and you can eat almost as much as you want without doing any harm. http://www.fda.gov/Food/FoodSafety/P.../ucm115644.htm

Trials have suggested that even for pregnant women the benefits of the Omega threes and minerals from the sensibly chosen fish far outweighed the negative effects of the pollution they contain.

Most people with high Omega six intake need 1 to 2 g a day of Omega three EPA and DHA combined, which is 2 to 4 teaspoons of a quality refined fish oil. If you are on blood thinning medication or heart medication you should discuss taking Omega threes with your doctor. Please advise your doctors prior to surgery that you are taking fish oil.

You also need to check the label for the amount of vitamin A and vitamin D contained in the fish oil. In most products they take the vitamin A and vitamin D out and replace it with lower levels, so it is not an issue, but check anyway.

You also need to get some plant-based Omega three. Flax oil is a good source of plant-based Omega three, and you're looking at maybe a teaspoon of day.

Finally you need to get your Omega six intake down to about 2% of calories which is not easy, and most do not manage it. Most common vegetables are very high in Omega six, so you need to keep an eye out for vegetable oils in all processed foods.

Olive oil only contains about 10% Omega six, but contains useful plant products, and has been associated with lowering the risk of breast cancer. This may be in part because people are replacing Omega six in other oils with Omega nines from olive oil.

Nutrition data.com is a useful site that allows you to look up the Omega 3:6 content of foods.

Seeks nuts and grains are high in Omega sixes generally so try and pick the ones that are lower in Omega six, and eat them in moderation.

I hope this helps.

07-13-2009, 03:03 PM	#310
R.B. Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,843	HTML Code: Thanks so much for all this information--it is fabulous but at the same time a bit overwhelming and a bit confusing to me.... Thanks for the kind thought. Most of the information you need is contained in the first post. The problem is if I say just; 1. Significantly cut down on your plant-based Omega six intake 2. Balance your Omega three and six plant based intake 3. Ensure you get an adequate supply of long chain Omega three DHA and EPA 4. Make sure you have enough minerals iodine and vitamin D because this will reduce your risk of breast cancer, nobody is going to take any notice. I post the trials to make the point that there is a significant amount of evidence that Omega six increases and Omega three reduces the risk of breast cancer. Nordic naturals is a very good brand but you really need fish oil and not a 3 6 9 oil. Nordic sell fish oils by the bottle too. http://www.nordicnaturals.com/en/Pro...8/?ProdID=1425 The body makes Omega 9s. Omega sixes are everywhere in the food chain. Most vegetable oils with the exception of olive and macadamia are very high in Omega 6, and the problem for most of us is avoiding Omega six rather than taking more of it. All good quality refined fish oils are going to be mercury free. For those on a budget fish oil in the bottle is a cheaper option. Modern quality refined oils DO NOT "REPEAT". Fish has to be the first choice because it contains minerals and other valuable nutrients. Fish and shellfish is the best source of minerals. Most short lived fish from the marine environment do not contain very much mercury. Seaweed is also a good source of minerals, and contains significant amounts of iodine which can be an issue for those with thyroid problems. The Japanese eat a lot of seaweed and are generally quite healthy. This is a list from the USFDA. Avoid tuna and stick to the fish on the low mercury part of the list and you can eat almost as much as you want without doing any harm. http://www.fda.gov/Food/FoodSafety/P.../ucm115644.htm Trials have suggested that even for pregnant women the benefits of the Omega threes and minerals from the sensibly chosen fish far outweighed the negative effects of the pollution they contain. Most people with high Omega six intake need 1 to 2 g a day of Omega three EPA and DHA combined, which is 2 to 4 teaspoons of a quality refined fish oil. If you are on blood thinning medication or heart medication you should discuss taking Omega threes with your doctor. Please advise your doctors prior to surgery that you are taking fish oil. You also need to check the label for the amount of vitamin A and vitamin D contained in the fish oil. In most products they take the vitamin A and vitamin D out and replace it with lower levels, so it is not an issue, but check anyway. You also need to get some plant-based Omega three. Flax oil is a good source of plant-based Omega three, and you're looking at maybe a teaspoon of day. Finally you need to get your Omega six intake down to about 2% of calories which is not easy, and most do not manage it. Most common vegetables are very high in Omega six, so you need to keep an eye out for vegetable oils in all processed foods. Olive oil only contains about 10% Omega six, but contains useful plant products, and has been associated with lowering the risk of breast cancer. This may be in part because people are replacing Omega six in other oils with Omega nines from olive oil. Nutrition data.com is a useful site that allows you to look up the Omega 3:6 content of foods. Seeks nuts and grains are high in Omega sixes generally so try and pick the ones that are lower in Omega six, and eat them in moderation. I hope this helps. Last edited by R.B.; 07-16-2009 at 02:29 AM..