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Old 08-11-2008, 04:50 PM   #2
Gina
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Arrow Lessons here?? #1) a little dab of phytoestrogen will do...

and 2) there may be other active ingredients in soy besides the phytoestrogens that are beneficial for folks who are her-2 positive...most notably, the high magnesium levels of soy and other bean foods. Many patients with her-2 mediated disease have low levels of magnesium, most notable by low platelet levels...and intense cravings for chocolate (rich in magnesium).

You will note that the "winning" diet was isoflavone poor, not completely isoflavone - free, and mice fed a soy free and isoflavone -free diet did not do well. I still say that it is the moderate boost of moderate phytoestrogen to the immune system is what is key here. At its most basic root, her-2 mediated disease is a combination of a genetically compromised immune system of a certain kind and an environmentally acquired infection, be it bacterial, viral, or fungal, although my vote still goes for bacterial.

Always good to read your "finds", Lani.


Best guess,
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