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Old 06-24-2007, 05:26 AM   #12
fullofbeans
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Hi all,

Yes juice fast is an alternative that must work if little is consumed however the article from R.B above is clear:

"Ketosis is subdued by drinking plenty of fruit juices, which provide simple carbohydrates for energy and cellular functioning. "

Which is what we are trying to avoid!!

we want only fatty acids as a food source with I would think little carbohydrate such a some wheatgrass (a shot or 2)and perhaps a small glass of green juice. These would be used in priority for the brain. All other part of our body can function on fatty acids for years!

Of course one should not do this if they do not have sufficient fat reserves, but hey I do so it will be a nice side effect aswell...

Also http://www.thresholdpharm.com/sec/targeting
extract"When these cells shift energy production to glycolysis, they must increase the levels of the proteins needed to transport and metabolize glucose. Metabolic Targeting takes advantage of these metabolic differences to selectively target certain diseased cells."

And guess what? in 2004 they identified increased level (overexpression) of glucose transporter protein on breast cancer cells especially in the agressive cancer.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...&dopt=Abstract

This is not surprising considering that they obtain only 2ATP from Glycolysis..as oppose to 32 ATP (in the citric acid cycle i.e. krebs ) in normal cells..the contrary would have been surprising in fact..if they are to grow they will need sugar. law of nature. The only worry is that some cancer have the ability to send messages to start protoletic(? spelling) process (cachexia) and therefore obtain food whatever you eat, 40% of cancer cases die of starvation actually. But Cachexia is extremely rare in breast cancer.

I will have to print this post and read it every morning to keep on track during the fast..I repeat I do not think that it works for all they are many complex issues around cancer. But hey chemo does not often work for us either. What I find amazing is the fear surrounding fasting but hey yes put some mustard gas (chemo) through your vein no problem..By the way since it is free to fast so there will never be a trial to test this and I, for one, would not only pursue this option as an ultimate treatment.
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June 06: BC stage I
Grade 3; ER/PR neg
Her-2+++; lumpectomies

Aug 06: Stage IV
liver mets: 6 tumours
July 06 to Jan 07: 2*FEC+6*Taxotere; 3*TACE; LITT
March 07- Sept 07: Vaccination trial (phase 2, peptide based) at the UW (Seattle).
Herceptin since 2006
NED til Oct 09
Recurrence Oct 2009: to internal mammary gland since October 2009 missed on Oct and March 2010 scan.. palpable nodes in May 2010 when I realised..
Nov 2011:7 mets to lungs progressing fast failed hercp/tykerb/xeloda combo..

superior vena cava blocked: stent but face remains puffy

April 2012: Teresa Trial, randomised to TDM1
Nov 2012 progressing on TDM1
Dec 2012 blockage of my airways by tumours, obliteration of these blocking tumours breathing better but hoping for more- at mo too many tumours to count in the lungs and nodes.

Dec 2012 Starting new trial S-222611 phase 1b dual egfr her2+ inhibitor.



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